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Post by qww on Nov 25, 2014 20:52:09 GMT -5
soo iwe been thinking about something and i dont really have access to a coach to ask and discuss with right now so i thought maybe i could use your guyses knowledge here. unfortunately not all passes/serve receptions are good. some of them end up going pretty much straight up and down, or in other ways staying far from the net. i still see pro players do beautiful sets to the net followed of perfect spikes, even though the set is coming from way behind. i also see some people be able to spike from far away from the net, kindof like a jumpserve. i find the latter much easier, and in the former i almost everytime hit the net because i have a hard time seeing both the net and the ball because the ball is coming from behind, if i dont hit net its always a very sloppy ball which is very easy for the opposing team to receive.
so my questions are, does anyone have hands on tips on how to perform these two hits? what should i work on really? i am a decently good spiker when i get my sets from good places (somewhat close to the net) but what would be most strategical for me to put my effort on practicing right now? as i see it hitting from far away from the net is easier both for me and my setting partner, but if we mastered the other version we might be more aggressive in the long run, or am i wrong? does people normally communicate in these cases, like the hitter telling the setter if he wants the ball close to the net as normally or far away when there is a bad pass?
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Post by volleyballjim on Nov 26, 2014 2:41:12 GMT -5
My hitting above the net days are over, but IMHO, how far off you are set is VERY stragetic. If you're "better" than your opponent, you want ON and hit. If the defender is better, probably setting off a bit to allow a call and get a single defender in back to TRY and pickup the shot. If you are passing poorly, you're probabably below A level and its just a bit "jungle" to some degree as passes should be fairly good at the high A+ level. I would like to see what actually hitters/setters say, but just my 2 cents...
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Post by vrungel on Nov 26, 2014 8:28:23 GMT -5
Here are some tips for you:
Once you pass the ball and realize that its not a good pass make sure to take a few steps outside. This way the set will be coming at an angle instead of from behind you. This way you can see both the net/block and the ball.
Work with your setter to make sure they can give you a set close to the net so that you can have an option to spike or roll.
If its a transition play and you are a defender making a dig from deep in the court you may not have time to make it to a tight set. In that case make sure to call your setter to set you off the net(towards the middle of the court). That way you can still have a good approach. This will let you execute a good shot or even hit the ball after some practice.
Hope that helps.
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Post by guest2 on Nov 26, 2014 9:24:08 GMT -5
One of the areas non-pro players practice the least is hitting bad sets, broken plays etc. Two drills I used to use a lot when I played were:
1. Coach or partner hits ball hard at you, you have to dig the ball and then transition and hit. This produces inconsistent sets and allows you to focus on good footwork, adjusting to the ball etc. It also helps your defense of course and start to recognize why certain bad sets come from where.
2. Player 1 lies face down, coach or player two slaps the ball, player 1 jumps up as Coach or player 2 tosses it. Player 1 chases it down, transitions and hits. Again this has the advantage of putting you out of position and needing to adjust.
Both are also good for promoting partner communication, i.e. you telling your partner where to set you, etc.
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Post by qww on Nov 26, 2014 18:20:05 GMT -5
thanks! makes a lot of sense. ill try these out. especially the stepping out part, i actually did the opposite because then i thought my setter wouldnt need to set as far, but that was ofcourse making the ball come from straight behind me.. if someone has more ideas, keep them coming! by the way, as a right handed person the stepping out and having far more angle than normally works well on the left side as i can hit "inwards" quite allright, but if im approaching from the right, do you try to twist into a more normal position on your last step to avoid the weak outward hitting motion? or does this kinda make you blind for the ball again? maybe this is just something i need to get out and experiment with..
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Post by vrungel on Nov 27, 2014 15:47:35 GMT -5
I play right side and I find it easy to hit hard cross in this case. The problem is trying to hit line because you are facing into the court. In this case you have to let the ball drift a little bit past you and turn/twist in the air a bit. It's a hard hit to pull off and you really need good vertical and approach.
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Post by kro2488 on Nov 27, 2014 19:42:14 GMT -5
*Keep the ball in front of you, moving outside the court can help because its generally easier to come back inside on a bad set then try to go inside to outside if it goes to far either way, wait to see where its going to come down and explode to the ball, slow to fast with a quick double arm pull and swing even if you end up going off speed, and make sure you keep your elbow high for full extension, snap and follow through, get good at keeping your eye on the ball and using peripheral vision to see the court, and or listen to the call of your partner if your not sure, if you try to bang the ball hit higher and flatter deep into the court if your not sure where the block is, you can cover yourself or your partner can if you dont try to hit straight down and get roofed, and off the net that's really hard to do without making a hitting error anyway, don't be afraid to use the off speed game and move the ball around and try to get a kill later in a rally or a block. *Both of you need to practice setting the ball decently close to the net but not too close on bad passes, and digs, good ball control especially in transition will enable you to get more hitting opportunities. Go back and watch old videos of Misty and Kerri, they didn't always make perfect passes or digs, but they were good at making sure each contact was bettering the ball whether it was on serve receive offense or in transition from defense. Just gotta work on it is all. Stay patient and positive.
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