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Post by bluepenquin on Nov 26, 2014 23:23:06 GMT -5
Here is the updated projected year end RPI with Pablo favorite winning remaining matches. This is before bonus/penalties.
1. Stanford (29-1) 2. Texas (24-1) 3. Florida State (28-2) 4. Washington (29-2) 5. North Carolina (26-2) 6. Wisconsin (28-2) 7. Florida (24-4) 8. Penn State (30-3) 9. Colorado State (29-2) 10. Illinois (24-7) 11. Oregon (22-8) 12. Nebraska (20-9) 13. Kansas (22-9) 14. Kentucky (26-5) 15. BYU (25-4) 16. Iowa State (18-9) 17. Arizona (23-9) 18. Marquette (26-7) 19. Texas A&M (21-8) 20. Duke (22-7) 21. Kansas State (23-7) 22. UCLA (20-11) 23. Oklahoma (20-10) 24. Miami-FL (21-8) 25. Long Beach State (26-4) 26. UCF (25-7) 27. Arkansas-Little Rock (29-4) 28. Western Kentucky (30-5) 29. Illinois State (26-5) 30. USC (15-15) 31. Alabama (25-7) 32. Ohio State (21-11) 33. Hawaii (21-6) 34. Colorado (19-13) 35. Ohio (24-5) 36. Lipscomb (21-8) 37. Creighton (24-9) 38. Cal State Northridge (20-8) 39. SMU (26-6) 40. LSU (19-8) 41. Loyola Marymount (23-7) 42. Utah (19-12) 43. Arizona State (19-13) 44. Oregon State (18-13) 45. San Diego (19-11) 46. Pittsburgh (25-6) 47. Santa Clara (22-9) 48. Pacific (24-7) 49. Michigan State (18-13) 50. Tulsa (22-9) 51. Seton Hall (27-7) 52. Virginia Tech (17-14) 53. UNLV (26-7) 54. George Washington (22-8) 55. Northern Colorado (23-9) 56. Minnesota (19-12) 57. Purdue (22-10) 58. Xavier (19-12) 59. Dayton (28-6) 60. Michigan (13-17)
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Post by utexrulz23 on Nov 27, 2014 0:55:53 GMT -5
Those would be some good matchups!
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Post by usvballfan on Nov 27, 2014 1:03:36 GMT -5
So RPIs really do fluctuate with the final week's games?
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Post by trojansc on Nov 27, 2014 1:04:47 GMT -5
So RPIs really do fluctuate with the final week's games? Yes
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Post by usvballfan on Nov 27, 2014 1:07:05 GMT -5
I still don't get Florida State.
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Post by southie on Nov 27, 2014 15:00:28 GMT -5
Is there any way Penn State doesn't get placed in a regional opposite Stanford or Texas? I keep seeing projections for Stanford and Texas as the top two national seeds, and PSU as anywhere between #7 and #10 nationally. PSU won't be placed below #10, so unless they are moved up to at least #6 they will likely be in a regional with Stanford or Texas. Am I missing something?
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Post by elevationvb on Nov 27, 2014 15:28:55 GMT -5
Is there any way Penn State doesn't get placed in a regional opposite Stanford or Texas? I keep seeing projections for Stanford and Texas as the top two national seeds, and PSU as anywhere between #7 and #10 nationally. PSU won't be placed below #10, so unless they are moved up to at least #6 they will likely be in a regional with Stanford or Texas. Am I missing something? Hope and pray they are with Stanford!
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Post by truthandjustice on Nov 27, 2014 15:38:05 GMT -5
There is no way Northridge's RPI moves up from #40 to #38. They played Fullerton and irvine!
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Post by midnightblue on Nov 27, 2014 17:24:17 GMT -5
Stanford SHOULD still be the #1 seed. They will have the #1 RPI, they have the most impressive resume, and no bad losses.
In 2012, by season's end, Stanford had the #1 RPI and PSU was #2. PSU ended up getting the #1 seed because it was a situation in which the committee needed to use all of the primary criteria afforded to them to figure out who would get which seed. PSU had the H2H vs. Stanford, thus they got the nod for #1 and Stanford ended up being #2. IMO, this situation won't come up for the committee this year seeing as #2 Texas has a "bad" loss, FSU dropped two matches in a less competitive league, and Washington at #4 RPI has one more loss than Stanford to much lower ranked teams.
BUT, looking at the current and projected RPIs, it might be better to be a 3/4 seed than a 1/2....
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Post by FTLOG on Nov 27, 2014 17:48:11 GMT -5
Maybe Stanford should, um, rest their starters against Cal...
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Post by bluepenquin on Nov 27, 2014 20:06:51 GMT -5
There is no way Northridge's RPI moves up from #40 to #38. They played Fullerton and irvine! There is a path.
LMU is #39 and they lost in their only game this week. Oregon State was #36 and lost to Colorado and if they lose to Oregon LSU is #38 and they only play one match this week (South Carolina)
Oregon State schedule bonus might keep them ahead, but Northridge probably passes 2 or 3 of these teams.
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Post by trojansc on Nov 27, 2014 20:28:38 GMT -5
There is no way Northridge's RPI moves up from #40 to #38. They played Fullerton and irvine! There is a path.
LMU is #39 and they lost in their only game this week. Oregon State was #36 and lost to Colorado and if they lose to Oregon LSU is #38 and they only play one match this week (South Carolina)
Oregon State schedule bonus might keep them ahead, but Northridge probably passes 2 or 3 of these teams.
Do you know how exactly the bonus / penalty system works?
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Post by southie on Nov 27, 2014 20:33:01 GMT -5
Is there any way Penn State doesn't get placed in a regional opposite Stanford or Texas? I keep seeing projections for Stanford and Texas as the top two national seeds, and PSU as anywhere between #7 and #10 nationally. PSU won't be placed below #10, so unless they are moved up to at least #6 they will likely be in a regional with Stanford or Texas. Am I missing something? Hope and pray they are with Stanford! I get the feeling they will be paired with Texas. Not that the committee is looking at this fact, but Texas and PSU have both been in every Final Four since 2008, with 2011 being the lone exception. So, these two program have comprised half of the Final Four participants in 5 of the last 6 years. So, one way to bring in some new blood is to place these two teams in the same Regional. That happened with women's basketball where UConn and Tennessee were such regulars in the Final Fours until the year where they were finally placed in the same regional (since only one was a #1 seed that season). If Florida were to beat Texas tomorrow, not sure if that drops Texas to the #3 overall seed and bumps Florida up a peg; so, we'll probably have a better feel tomorrow night for how things will play out on Sunday.
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Post by bluepenquin on Nov 27, 2014 21:03:46 GMT -5
There is a path.
LMU is #39 and they lost in their only game this week. Oregon State was #36 and lost to Colorado and if they lose to Oregon LSU is #38 and they only play one match this week (South Carolina)
Oregon State schedule bonus might keep them ahead, but Northridge probably passes 2 or 3 of these teams.
Do you know how exactly the bonus / penalty system works? Nope - not exactly. Bonus for each RPI top 25 win and a penalty for each loss against a team 167 or worse. Also a scheduling bonus for any team that plays at least 1/2 their matches against the top 50 - but don't know if that is for all matches or just OOC. If it is all matches - then Oregon State would qualify, but if it is just OOC, then they would not qualify. I believe Oregon State would need the schedule bonus in order to stay ahead of Northridge.
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Post by trojansc on Nov 27, 2014 21:52:40 GMT -5
Do you know how exactly the bonus / penalty system works? Nope - not exactly. Bonus for each RPI top 25 win and a penalty for each loss against a team 167 or worse. Also a scheduling bonus for any team that plays at least 1/2 their matches against the top 50 - but don't know if that is for all matches or just OOC. If it is all matches - then Oregon State would qualify, but if it is just OOC, then they would not qualify. I believe Oregon State would need the schedule bonus in order to stay ahead of Northridge. Hmm. Interesting. If anyone could provide a link or detail this, that would help. I'm trying to figure out what this bonus system has on bubble implications.
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