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Post by jsn112 on Dec 19, 2014 11:18:06 GMT -5
She will not be a big factor vs. BYU. I waited three seasons for her to come alive and indeed she last night and I promise you she will not dominate against BYU. She is still overrated offensively considering she is now a junior and if she produces next season, I still give her amaybe top 20 recruit and not #4 overall. Love her elevation though! Which other 19 players in HER (Courtney) class would you take over her?
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Post by southie on Dec 19, 2014 11:22:57 GMT -5
You're kidding, right? Stanford fans crying about all the talent Texas gets? Stanford used to sign the cream of the crop because they had first choice of the elite players from coast to coast; now that parity is more prevalent, Stanford isn't the top destination. For the record, we have 2 NCAA titles. Stanford only gets the cream of the crop that its admissions department allows in--which would pretty much rule out Texas' entire team. If you say so. Bottom line is that Stanford is not the program they were 10 years ago. The reasons why are irrelevant.
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Post by canda on Dec 19, 2014 11:25:44 GMT -5
Weather, two hugely popular Cities - San Francisco, LA, a good decade of established tradition before PSU even won their first NC. UCLA, Stanford and USC are also simply considered better academic institutions than PSU, which in itself is a really good school as well. Have you seen Stanford's typical endowment? USC is also a private school like Stanford. I know you aint a fool - at the very least, please don't try to counter the weather argument. Please. Three things have conspired and allowed PSU and the B1G to dominate: (1) Number of substitutions and the Libero; (2) Growth of club volleyball; (3) Demographics. While there are a lot of good players in CA, teams like UCLA, USC, Stanford, UW, Cal, and others split the talent. Now, put a pin down on Happy Valley and swing a radius arm of 500 miles and tell me what other volleyball power is inside the resulting circle? PSU is now recruiting successfully outside that circle nationally because of their success in 2007 thru 2010.
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Post by canda on Dec 19, 2014 11:29:04 GMT -5
(3) Demographics. While there are a lot of good players in CA, teams like UCLA, USC, Stanford, UW, Cal, and others split the talent. Now, put a pin down on Happy Valley and swing a radius arm of 500 miles and tell me what other volleyball power is inside the resulting circle? PSU is now recruiting successfully outside that circle nationally because of their success in 2007 thru 2010.
WITHIN 500 MILES OF HAPPY VALLEY ARE OHIO STATE, MICHIGAN AND MICHIGAN STATE, ALL VERY GOOD TEAMS
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Post by akbar on Dec 19, 2014 12:03:13 GMT -5
Russ said it ... PSU's passing broke down in the middle and they ended up paying Its the Micha serve when on PSU is unstoppable when off well they are vulnerable. The gears that this team has is consistently underestimated. In 4 without Micha'a serve.
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Post by kubricks on Dec 19, 2014 12:04:59 GMT -5
Any link to the post match Stanford press conference
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Post by volleyfan24 on Dec 19, 2014 13:00:57 GMT -5
This poster called it. If Megan Courtney shows up for PSU and everyone else plays their roll they are unstoppable. She was hot hot heat tonight. Courtney has had an incredible career at PSU thus far but glad to see her perform to her potential. She can be first team AA caliber. Also Inky had one of her worst matches of the season. This is a recipe for disaster for Stanford. Bugg lost confidence in Inky and tried to force things herself instead of trusting her hitters. In matches like this the tension is so high those little things combined to derail the Stanford machine. I also wonder how effective the McGhee serve would have been had she been healthy everyone forgets she served for Stanford all season for good reason. I believe if it would have gone five Stanford could have pulled this one out simply cause Micha was ready to get off the court as the cramp was clearly bothering her. "If courtney plays well and everyone else plays their role", is an interesting thing to say given that Courtney is really a role player and several PSU players didn't play their roles. Courtney isnt a kid relied on to be their point scorer, and Whitney, Grant and Washington all had way below average nights attacking. It's a funny game, and once again PSU's backrow players come up with the goods in big match and dont get the credit they deserve. Defense will always be overlooked and it was on both sides of the net. People are already crying foul on to why was Burgess named first team when one look at the match and you can easily see why the girl digs bombs. Its not how many balls she digs but the quality of hits she picks up. Not to mention Howard who I saw lay out for a couple. Their defensive prowess kept them in many and rally and even won them some points. As for PSU you have always been Dom's biggest defender and I certainly have never seen it I think she is a good libero but not great but last night I did she was fantastic on floor defense and moving side to side and being in the right place to get the ball up. Not to mention Fuller who made some plays, she dug a rocket in I don't know which set that left my jaw on the floor they are very good back there.
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Dec 19, 2014 13:10:02 GMT -5
Stanford only gets the cream of the crop that its admissions department allows in--which would pretty much rule out Texas' entire team. If you say so. Bottom line is that Stanford is not the program they were 10 years ago. The reasons why are irrelevant. I disagree - Stanford is very much the same program. They're still getting ultra-elite players (including the 2015 #1 recruit), and Stanford remains one of the best programs in the country. But while Stanford has stayed the same, other programs have caught up to them (and in the case of Penn St, surpassed them). And I'm not sure John, Denise & Co have adapted to the changes in the sport as well as other elite programs.
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Post by austintatious on Dec 19, 2014 13:46:38 GMT -5
id like to see courtney hit over byu s block i cant wait to see them shut her down that's the way to be classy. They kicked my ass, I'll cheer against them now.
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Post by austintatious on Dec 19, 2014 13:49:20 GMT -5
Definitely not an upset. Stanford was very fortunate to win the match in September; PSU had much more room for growth and development as a team, and they reached it. Stanford will never win the title with Burgess as a starting OH. or Texas with Neal. Only Burgess can pass and play back row.
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Post by southie on Dec 19, 2014 13:57:08 GMT -5
Definitely not an upset. Stanford was very fortunate to win the match in September; PSU had much more room for growth and development as a team, and they reached it. Stanford will never win the title with Burgess as a starting OH. or Texas with Neal. Only Burgess can pass and play back row. Agree. I'm surprised we got this far with an undersized OH. Luckily, we were pretty balanced offensively this season. Our passing had to be great last night in order for the setters to have all their options available; it wasn't.
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Post by psumaui on Dec 19, 2014 14:31:50 GMT -5
Any link to the post match Stanford press conference So far only this short bit by Coach Dunning. link
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Post by SportyBucky on Dec 19, 2014 14:35:36 GMT -5
id like to see courtney hit over byu s block i cant wait to see them shut her down that's the way to be classy. They kicked my ass, I'll cheer against them now. No one hits over that block. You find ways to: (1) use it, (2) split it, or (3) roll and reset. Texas did none of that, but for Chiaka and Haley. It's too hard to be deceptive without good passing and truly elite setting at this level. Speed of set and positionally locating set are critical to moving blockers around and giving hitters windows between blockers. Micha can do that by virtue of freezing blockers for that split second. That, and Amy N and Paulina were non-factors for 75% of the match.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2014 14:37:28 GMT -5
Stanford is still a great great volleyball school and one that should be peaking next season. Hi Haley Hodson.
I thought PSU would be stronger this year than last year, as some people/coaches did. Having watched the freshman class coming in and with their strong senior/junior players...
I do not think PSU will be as good next year, with the loss of three starter, especially Micha.....
2015 could be Stanford's year.
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Post by hammer on Dec 19, 2014 14:46:24 GMT -5
(3) Demographics. While there are a lot of good players in CA, teams like UCLA, USC, Stanford, UW, Cal, and others split the talent. Now, put a pin down on Happy Valley and swing a radius arm of 500 miles and tell me what other volleyball power is inside the resulting circle? PSU is now recruiting successfully outside that circle nationally because of their success in 2007 thru 2010. WITHIN 500 MILES OF HAPPY VALLEY ARE OHIO STATE, MICHIGAN AND MICHIGAN STATE, ALL VERY GOOD TEAMS But no super power -- USC, Stanford, Nebraska, Texas, U-dub, Florida
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