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Post by InTheKnow on Dec 15, 2014 0:01:44 GMT -5
Plz help fill in.
No swing block: Penn State Texas UNC
Swing block: Florida Stanford.
Swing blocking in my opinion has too many flaws. A disciplined traditional blocking system is more effective and creates more positive touches.
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Post by immacoach on Dec 15, 2014 0:08:10 GMT -5
Nebraska, Washington, and BYU- swing block. Actually all 8 of these teams use swing blocking on high balls.
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Post by InTheKnow on Dec 15, 2014 0:32:52 GMT -5
BYU doesn't swing block with the Rightside blocker Hansen. So it's a hybrid.
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Post by InTheKnow on Dec 15, 2014 0:36:35 GMT -5
Nebraska, Washington, and BYU- swing block. Actually all 8 of these teams use swing blocking on high balls. Not true. They don't swing on high balls. I've recorded all 4 matches and watching them now. Russ let's Micah do it some but that's it. He's not a fan either of swing block.
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Post by InTheKnow on Dec 15, 2014 0:47:43 GMT -5
rank for blocks per game:
No swing block: Penn State #23 Texas. #7 UNC #2
Hybrid BYU. #1
Swing block: Florida. Stanford. #20 Nebraska #10 Washington #11
I count many more positive touches for the traditional blocking teams that don't show up on stat sheet.
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Post by SuperSpike on Dec 15, 2014 0:48:06 GMT -5
Nebraska, Washington, and BYU- swing block. Actually all 8 of these teams use swing blocking on high balls. Not true. They don't swing on high balls. I've recorded all 4 matches and watching them now. Russ let's Micah do it some but that's it. He's not a fan either of swing block. Is an extra two inches important when you (PSU/TX) already jump higher/have the most physical athletes?
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Post by InTheKnow on Dec 15, 2014 0:50:49 GMT -5
I believe being in a better position is more important than being an inch higher. Waiting to swing block toward the pins gets team burned when they face a fast pin set.
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Post by volleyfan24 on Dec 15, 2014 1:01:26 GMT -5
Has anyone told you causation doesn't equal correlation. You can't look at which teams have the most blocks on the season as you also need to take into consideration level of competition. For what its worth. BYU considered the team from the weakest conference left in the tournament has the number one block. Then they are followed shortly after by UNC and Texas both from weaker conferences than either the PAC or the BIG. No way to tell which blocking system is truly better by the numbers you have presented.
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Post by InTheKnow on Dec 15, 2014 1:20:14 GMT -5
These rankings don't tell me what system is better., Logging block touches and rating their effectiveness for 3 decades tells me that.
Also Texas and BYU have blocked their way into the final 4.
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Post by Vballin on Dec 15, 2014 1:24:20 GMT -5
Nebraska, Washington, and BYU- swing block. Actually all 8 of these teams use swing blocking on high balls. Not true. They don't swing on high balls. I've recorded all 4 matches and watching them now. Russ let's Micah do it some but that's it. He's not a fan either of swing block. They definetly practice their swing blocks during warm up. Would be a big waste of time if they never use it.
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Post by Vballin on Dec 15, 2014 1:50:52 GMT -5
Our USA Olympic team uses a swing block. Of course it can't and shouldn't be used all of the time, but it does have a purpose. I think any coach that refuses to let a player work on it or use it in a match is being very short sided.
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Post by maplespear on Dec 15, 2014 7:49:10 GMT -5
So what is the difference between the hybrid block and the swing?
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Post by vbman100 on Dec 15, 2014 8:31:38 GMT -5
Plz help fill in. No swing block: Penn State Texas UNC Swing block: Florida Stanford. Swing blocking in my opinion has too many flaws. A disciplined traditional blocking system is more effective and creates more positive touches. Thank you for bringing up a topic that has never been discussed here before. Where have you been all these years? We could have used your wealth of knowledge. A disciplined swing blocking system is more effective and creates more positive touches and stuff blocks. If you don't like it, don't use it. However, the rest of us will continue to use it and win state championships, national championships, and gold medals. If it is so bad, why do so many teams at the highest level use it? Are they stupid or something?
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Post by immacoach on Dec 15, 2014 9:37:32 GMT -5
Nebraska, Washington, and BYU- swing block. Actually all 8 of these teams use swing blocking on high balls. Not true. They don't swing on high balls. I've recorded all 4 matches and watching them now. Russ let's Micah do it some but that's it. He's not a fan either of swing block. No, they do. I watched each team as well. Just because they don't do it on every play doesn't mean they don't do it when they have time on a high ball. With teams using faster offensive systems you might not see it as much because you don't have time to swing on quick sets BYU doesn't swing block with the Rightside blocker Hansen. So it's a hybrid. It's not a hybrid- Hamsen is 6'7 and just probably doesn't have the time to get those long arms back and over in time. Also take out off season training because she plays basketball and the coach just probably didn't make her focus on it as much.
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Post by dorothymantooth on Dec 15, 2014 9:54:17 GMT -5
Nebraska, Washington, and BYU- swing block. Actually all 8 of these teams use swing blocking on high balls. Not true. They don't swing on high balls. I've recorded all 4 matches and watching them now. Russ let's Micah do it some but that's it. He's not a fan either of swing block. Washington does some swing blocking, while I wouldnt quite call it a hybrid, they have some players who do. Rose also isnt anti swing blocking.
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