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Post by ay2013 on Jun 24, 2015 1:48:08 GMT -5
Is tanner good enough at hitting and blocking to play Opp and set in a 6-2? maybe....it takes a ton of game to be an effective hitter and blocker (and possible passer) for 3 rotations and then shift gears and set for 3 rotations. The physical demands aside, I'm not convinced tanner is that kind of player. shifting gears a bit back to jones perhaps moving to the middle, I'd like to see what kind of progress Dehoog has made. She's a 6-4 lefty opp, a top 20 recruit, and 3 more years of eligibility. If she turns into a true terminator I could easily see a scenario where in 2016 Tanner takes over setting full time (and her height front row isn't is a blocking liability), Dehoog is OPP, Jones is in the middle with some newbie, and Scambray, Schwan, Julye, and Bajema fight it out for the OH, may the best passers win. I'd feel decently confident with that team. Perhaps not uber talented top 5 level but probably flirting around the 10-15 range. Also, Courtney Domme is the next big thing in the Pac-12 for liberi, you heard it first here.
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Post by redbeard2008 on Jun 24, 2015 15:43:55 GMT -5
Doesn't mean one won't be shifted to the inside - might be her best chance for playing time the next few years. If the choice is between a slower MB and a quicker OH recruit, I'll take the latter to fill a need at MB, given she has good blocking potential. Jones has the biggest offensive potential of any on the roster. Cook isn't going to move her back to MB as a junior, unless she flames out on the outside. Who knows, maybe someone will transfer in for 2016. Suggesting one of them may move to MB is not the same as comparing them to Sybeldon (which you did)... Come now, you're twisting what I'm saying. Sybeldon was an under-the-radar player coming in, and has said herself that she was not a good blocker coming in. She does fit the mold of quicker-is-better at MB at UW. Even so, the reality is that quick athletic 6'1" middles like Sybeldon are relatively rare - most get switched to the outside before getting to college. Slow unathletic tall (6'3"+) middles, on the other hand, are a dime a dozen. If Jones is UW's top scorer in 2015, which I strongly suspect she will be, I seriously doubt she will be switched to the middle, where getting her scoring chances will be much more difficult. Some other solution will be found. In my opinion, it is more likely that she'll be moved to the left side than to the middle. I'm not claiming that Bajema or Julye will be moved to MB, but merely that one or the other could be (and that it could likely be their best chance of getting playing time). Assuming Cook has a scholie to give out, we still might add an MB to the 2016 class or we could get an MB transfer, once that there is a playing opportunity here becomes more widely known. In either case, Bajema or Julye could still fill in as the third MB (similar to Parker's role in 2013).
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Post by redbeard2008 on Jun 24, 2015 15:59:07 GMT -5
Is tanner good enough at hitting and blocking to play Opp and set in a 6-2? She was a hitter before training to be a setter. I believe the plan to have her set and hit in 2014 was shelved due to concern that her stress fracture could come back. Right now, it is looking that Jones will be the first OPP. Schwan is looking like she'll be one of the two OHs. That would leave Tanner or DeHoog as the second OPP, if Cook chooses to play a 6-2.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Jun 24, 2015 19:27:03 GMT -5
Suggesting one of them may move to MB is not the same as comparing them to Sybeldon (which you did)... I'm not claiming that Bajema or Julye will be moved to MB, but merely that one or the other could be (and that it could likely be their best chance of getting playing time). And Elvis could be alive.
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Jun 24, 2015 19:50:09 GMT -5
I'm not claiming that Bajema or Julye will be moved to MB, but merely that one or the other could be (and that it could likely be their best chance of getting playing time). And Elvis could be alive. Elvis is ranching in Eastern Oregon with Jim Morrison. I read it on the internet. Also, Julye is closer to 5'9" than she is to 5'11" - for whatever it's worth. And has DeHoog just fallen off the map? Rarely hear her mentioned by the Dawg faithful.
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Post by mikegarrison on Jun 24, 2015 20:29:30 GMT -5
And Elvis could be alive. Elvis is ranching in Eastern Oregon with Jim Morrison. I read it on the internet. Also, Julye is closer to 5'9" than she is to 5'11" - for whatever it's worth. And has DeHoog just fallen off the map? Rarely hear her mentioned by the Dawg faithful. About as often as she has played. I guess we'll see what happens when it happens.
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Post by ay2013 on Jun 24, 2015 20:47:39 GMT -5
Is tanner good enough at hitting and blocking to play Opp and set in a 6-2? She was a hitter before training to be a setter. I believe the plan to have her set and hit in 2014 was shelved due to concern that her stress fracture could come back.Right now, it is looking that Jones will be the first OPP. Schwan is looking like she'll be one of the two OHs. That would leave Tanner or DeHoog as the second OPP, if Cook chooses to play a 6-2. that's assuming that there even WAS a plan to have her set and hit in 2014 (there wasn't...as least not legitimately). Lets be honest, Tanner wasn't beating out Nelson for one of the OPP spots, which means you think she'd have a legit shot at landing an OPP spot over Jones, whom you think will be UW's leading scorer this year. Given all of this, if tanner had so much upside to you wouldn't it be more prudent to run a 5-1 with tanner as a full time hitter!?
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Post by mikegarrison on Jun 24, 2015 20:53:53 GMT -5
She was a hitter before training to be a setter. I believe the plan to have her set and hit in 2014 was shelved due to concern that her stress fracture could come back.Right now, it is looking that Jones will be the first OPP. Schwan is looking like she'll be one of the two OHs. That would leave Tanner or DeHoog as the second OPP, if Cook chooses to play a 6-2. that's assuming that there even WAS a plan to have her set and hit in 2014 (there wasn't...as least not legitimately). Lets be honest, Tanner wasn't beating out Nelson for one of the OPP spots, which means you think she'd have a legit shot at landing an OPP spot over Jones, whom you think will be UW's leading scorer this year. Given all of this, if tanner had so much upside to you wouldn't it be more prudent to run a 5-1 with tanner as a full time hitter!? x_x You know he's wanted Tanner to be a setter/hitter before she even arrived on campus. We all have our favorite windmills to go tilting at.
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Post by redbeard2008 on Jun 25, 2015 0:39:57 GMT -5
that's assuming that there even WAS a plan to have her set and hit in 2014.... It was JMac who said in the 2014 preseason that they had decided she would focus on just setting because of concerns about her injury reoccurring. It's in one of the articles at GoHuskies.com or VolleyblogSeattle. On the 2014 roster, she's still listed as an "OH/S".
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Post by ay2013 on Jun 25, 2015 1:48:19 GMT -5
that's assuming that there even WAS a plan to have her set and hit in 2014.... It was JMac who said in the 2014 preseason that they had decided she would focus on just setting because of concerns about her injury reoccurring. It's in one of the articles at GoHuskies.com or VolleyblogSeattle. On the 2014 roster, she's still listed as an "OH/S". I'm not disagreeing that she couldn't do it (as her roster position listing suggests), I just think that even a "healthy" tanner during 2014 is probably not a huge push to play 3 up and 3 back as OPP/S, the pin depth was just too great last year for them to really give that a legit look. I think JMac would agree. I think you are maybe getting caught up with semantics. I'm not saying she couldn't do it, obviously she could, but that's different than there being any definitive plan for her to. And in 2014 I don't think that was the plan, even if she was healthy, because the last thing UW needed last year was to try and develop Tanner's hitting and blocking (at the expense of setting reps) when they had 3 others competing for that spot. Now, with Vansant and Nelson gone I can see more of a push for it, last year, no way.
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Post by redbeard2008 on Jun 25, 2015 12:58:33 GMT -5
I'm not disagreeing that she couldn't do it (as her roster position listing suggests), I just think that even a "healthy" tanner during 2014 is probably not a huge push to play 3 up and 3 back as OPP/S, the pin depth was just too great last year for them to really give that a legit look. I think JMac would agree. I think you are maybe getting caught up with semantics. I'm not saying she couldn't do it, obviously she could, but that's different than there being any definitive plan for her to. And in 2014 I don't think that was the plan, even if she was healthy, because the last thing UW needed last year was to try and develop Tanner's hitting and blocking (at the expense of setting reps) when they had 3 others competing for that spot. Now, with Vansant and Nelson gone I can see more of a push for it, last year, no way. I certainly don't mean to imply that the coaches were going to just give her the second OPP position - the plan, however, was to have her compete for the spot. That was also Tanner's expectation. Her injury changed that. I seem to recall that Jones was definitively switched to OPP after it was decided Tanner was a no go there. Up until then, Jones was more in Parker's "utility" role from 2013. On the other hand, Jones' emergence in practice could have helped put to bed the notion of Tanner both setting and hitting. I don't disagree that Jones is a better choice at OPP than even a healthy Tanner. If Tanner does set and hit this year, she'll be competing not with Jones, but with DeHoog, or maybe Schwan (with Julye at OH). There are advantages to playing a setter/hitter, in that you save two substitutions every six rotations. That can allow playing a serving sub or a DS, something that is otherwise hard to do in a 6-2. It isn't clear, however, that a recurrence of Tanner's injury isn't still an issue. If she shows up on the 2015 roster as just a "S", that'll put to bed any notion of her also hitting. We also don't know if Beals will be ready to go or even able to play in 2015. If she can't play, the chances of playing a 5-1 go way up.
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Post by redbeard2008 on Jun 25, 2015 15:28:10 GMT -5
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Post by Kamali'i-7 on Jul 28, 2015 19:41:40 GMT -5
the IMA has always been air conditioned. the Annex hasn't always been so. the Huskies have come a looong way since (into the AS Air arena)!
IT'S SWELTERING HOT *again* IN SEATTLE. 90 w/ humidity is a bit much.
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Post by dawgs4life on Jul 29, 2015 0:57:08 GMT -5
the IMA has always been air conditioned. the Annex hasn't always been so. the Huskies have come a looong way since (into the AS Air arena)!
IT'S SWELTERING HOT *again* IN SEATTLE. 90 w/ humidity is a bit much. The IMA actually didn't get air conditioning until the expansion was completed in 2003.
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Post by Kamali'i-7 on Jul 29, 2015 15:40:04 GMT -5
You mean all those years that I worked out there, MANY moons prior, in VARYING weight rooms, it was infact all a misrepresentation? They did use to pass out hand towels so as to wipe as you'd go along, but there was hardly ever a drop of sweat, personally, which ran down the sides of my face. W/C/Shoulda pushed myself more for greater results I guess.
I used to work in the intramurals office there too. Year round office space(s), BITD, always represented themselves also.
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