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Post by volleyfan24 on Dec 20, 2014 3:45:33 GMT -5
Well the college volleyball season is nearly over. As we say goodbye to some our favorite stars and look forward to their international careers and possible playing for a team most all of us collectively root for we must look at their possible futures.
I think the short list for seniors who are graduating that have serious chances on the national team are of course Karsta Lowe she looked like a woman among girls out there. I think she could challenge she needs work blocking but she I think is the most likely as the OPP position has been a little bit of a revolving door for Team USA since it seems there will be no Hooker anytime soon. I also like Jennifer Hamson's chances she's a better blocker than Lowe not as dynamic a hitter and doesn't hit as good of an OOS ball but she has a chance.
At OH we really have two stars that I think have a good chance. Taylor Simpson really emerged as a force for Colorado all season she wasn't really manys pick for All American and finished her career in emphatic fashion with 30 some kills she looked great and we haven't seen. Tourney performance a like that since Hooker. Her floor defense could use work but a possibility. Of course when talking OHs we have to discuss the remarkable Krista Vansant I am sure she can make some noise she is no slouch and could be a future player for Team USA as she has already shown consistency who knows the OH position is deep for the US, she could challenge for a spot.
Any other current collegiate Seniors I am not sure really could make our National Team. Feel free to add names you like and discuss.
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Post by vballfreak808 on Dec 20, 2014 4:19:57 GMT -5
Karsta Lowe, Taylor Simpson, Krista Vansant, Micha Hancock for sure.
Other options can be Val Nichol, Haley Eckerman, Khat Bell, Jennifer Hamson. Not sure how Nichols would work out with her able to hit and set. Eckerman can still be able to play at this level without passing because Webster showed she could even without having to pass. Bell is athletic enough and I wonder where she would play because of the amount of good middles waiting in the pipeline. Hamson just has to decide whether she is going with volleyball or basketball.
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Post by fetchin on Dec 20, 2014 4:23:19 GMT -5
Karsta only for me. Small chance for Vansant and Hancock. the rest probably no.
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Post by chisovnik on Dec 20, 2014 5:18:05 GMT -5
Lowe is nowhere near as good as Murphy.
I can see Vansant on the team. She'd be very comfortable in Karch's offense. Hancock would be interesting to see as well.
Isn't Hamson heading to the WNBA?
Taylor Simpson can't play backrow.
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Post by kokyu on Dec 20, 2014 5:23:32 GMT -5
Lowe is nowhere near as good as Murphy.
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Post by fetchin on Dec 20, 2014 5:37:49 GMT -5
Lowe is nowhere near as good as Murphy. I can see Vansant on the team. She'd be very comfortable in Karch's offense. Hancock would be interesting to see as well. Isn't Hamson heading to the WNBA? Taylor Simpson can't play backrow. Lowe as a college senior >>> Murphy as a college senior. None of them can play backrow, Vansant is decent though.
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Post by midnightblue on Dec 20, 2014 7:32:34 GMT -5
Karsta Lowe: More potential than Murphy. I think she's capable of big things at the next level, and she has the right attitude to do it. Krista Vansant: The NCAA rarely produces a complete OH like her these days. I'm very interested to see how she adapts to the international game.
A good number of players are going to get looks during the winter/spring training blocks.. and even stay into the Summer, but IMO, these are the only two that have a chance to make rosters.
Micha Hancock: I don't know. Setting wise, could she run the system Karch wants to run? I'm not sure she can. Jen Hamson: I thinks she would almost immediately be relegated to the double-sub role (in general). Haley Eckerman: I really like Haley, but I have no idea what she would even do for team USA. She cannot play OH at that level, and as for being an opposite, can she run that quick of an offense, especially on the RS (which is probably the quickest set they run to the pin)??
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Post by truffleshuffle on Dec 20, 2014 7:53:56 GMT -5
Yeah, Hamson was drafted by a WNBA team and deferred a year to play one more year of volleyball at BYU. I don't really know enough about earnings potential in women's volleyball (overseas) versus women's basketball (in the USA). But it seems like a lot of the US players who play overseas professionally move around a LOT. I suppose it just comes down to whichever Hamson enjoys more and feels more confident about turning into a career.
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Post by volleytology on Dec 20, 2014 8:07:22 GMT -5
Yeah, Hamson was drafted by a WNBA team and deferred a year to play one more year of volleyball at BYU. I don't really know enough about earnings potential in women's volleyball (overseas) versus women's basketball (in the USA). But it seems like a lot of the US players who play overseas professionally move around a LOT. I suppose it just comes down to whichever Hamson enjoys more and feels more confident about turning into a career. Most WNBA players also play overseas since the pay scales in the WNBA are not significant except for the top 5 or so players and the WNBA season is fairly short. Hamson may just decide with her newfound volleyball success that it's a better option (situationally and financially) to play volleyball professionally instead.
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Post by Sbilo on Dec 20, 2014 8:47:30 GMT -5
Ece Taner - Turkish National Team
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Post by pogoball on Dec 20, 2014 11:09:28 GMT -5
Yeah, Hamson was drafted by a WNBA team and deferred a year to play one more year of volleyball at BYU. I don't really know enough about earnings potential in women's volleyball (overseas) versus women's basketball (in the USA). But it seems like a lot of the US players who play overseas professionally move around a LOT. I suppose it just comes down to whichever Hamson enjoys more and feels more confident about turning into a career. Most WNBA players also play overseas since the pay scales in the WNBA are not significant except for the top 5 or so players and the WNBA season is fairly short. Hamson may just decide with her newfound volleyball success that it's a better option (situationally and financially) to play volleyball professionally instead. Good points, but we can't undervalue the ability to live in the USA while being paid. If she is a legit WNBA player, that's a huge plus for a basketball career. Changing subjects, I just don't see Micha Hancock as a national team player at all. I've been surprised before, but the only thing that she brings to the table on an international level is an above-average topspin serve -- and our national staff seems to have made the collective decision (good or bad) that they aren't even interested in topspin serves at all. She has been an outstanding college player, but she's like those heisman trophy winners that don't pan out as pros. When you watch her play after watching Carlini, it's hard not to notice the difference.
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Post by volleytology on Dec 20, 2014 12:21:28 GMT -5
Most WNBA players also play overseas since the pay scales in the WNBA are not significant except for the top 5 or so players and the WNBA season is fairly short. Hamson may just decide with her newfound volleyball success that it's a better option (situationally and financially) to play volleyball professionally instead. Good points, but we can't undervalue the ability to live in the USA while being paid. If she is a legit WNBA player, that's a huge plus for a basketball career. Changing subjects, I just don't see Micha Hancock as a national team player at all. I've been surprised before, but the only thing that she brings to the table on an international level is an above-average topspin serve -- and our national staff seems to have made the collective decision (good or bad) that they aren't even interested in topspin serves at all. She has been an outstanding college player, but she's like those heisman trophy winners that don't pan out as pros. When you watch her play after watching Carlini, it's hard not to notice the difference. Kind of agree--except who would have thought Robyn Ah Mow, Lindsey Berg, Courtney Thompson, Lori Endicott, etc were going to make the USA Volleyball impact they did coming out of college. Setter's a tricky one, so many intangibles in being great in that position that often have zero to do with physical traits.
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Post by spikerthemovie on Dec 20, 2014 12:37:38 GMT -5
Yeah, Hamson was drafted by a WNBA team and deferred a year to play one more year of volleyball at BYU. I don't really know enough about earnings potential in women's volleyball (overseas) versus women's basketball (in the USA). But it seems like a lot of the US players who play overseas professionally move around a LOT. I suppose it just comes down to whichever Hamson enjoys more and feels more confident about turning into a career. Most WNBA players also play overseas since the pay scales in the WNBA are not significant except for the top 5 or so players and the WNBA season is fairly short. Hamson may just decide with her newfound volleyball success that it's a better option (situationally and financially) to play volleyball professionally instead. You're right about the pay scale being lowish by pro sports standards in the WNBA but it includes everybody, including "the top 5 or so." The max salary is a little over $100,000. The only way to make more is playoff bonuses (and, of course, endorsements, etc.)
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Dec 20, 2014 13:03:45 GMT -5
Women's basketball generally pays better than volleyball, if one follows the most common route: WNBA in the Summer and overseas for the Winter. Average WNBA salary is around $70K, and All-Star level players make 5X to 10X that in Russia, China etc. BTW, Hamson's basketball draft rights are owned by the Los Angeles Sparks.
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Post by timduckforlife on Dec 20, 2014 14:17:57 GMT -5
I would agree that Lowe and Vansant could fight for a spot on the national team. Both need to be better blockers, esp Lowe as that is a key blocking position. Vansant's defense is good and probably better than most coming out of college. Lowe's will need some work as this was the 1st year she played in all 6 rotations.
In terms of Taylor Simpson, I think she's a better athlete than Vansant, just needs a lot more work on defense. In terms of Haley Eckerman, I think she has the least chance. As shown against BYU, she struggled mightily against a tall block, and she'd face that on a daily basis on the international level. And add that the system Texas runs is much much slower. Even more, she doesn't even play back row and hasn't for the 4 years she's been there. And realistically, that's going to hurt her.
For Micha Hancock, I think she has a fighting chance. Karch likes to do a modified 5-1/6-2 with such limited substitutions. There is definitely, IMO, a place for someone of her ability. I think she needs to work on cleaner sets and of course her defense, but again, she has a shot. The challenge for her is double though, Karch seems to be in love with a good jump floater, and Micha lacks the height to be a good blocker in the front row. But on the positive side, she's a fiery competitor, she sees the court extremely well and knows when and where to go when she goes over on 2. Her serve can definitely be a weapon and would be a great change of pace to constant stream of jump floats.
For Hamson, I don't think she's decided, and has actually said as much because she's focusing on volleyball. In January, she'll be working with the national team at their camps. She defintely has a shot, I think overall she has better upside than Lowe because of defense and blocking. In terms of money, if that is the deciding factor for her, does anyone know how much someone makes overseas in volleyball compared to basketball?
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