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Post by bigfan on Jan 9, 2015 13:26:57 GMT -5
Jim McLaughlin/Why did he bail?
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Post by vbprisoner on Jan 9, 2015 13:31:42 GMT -5
Thank you for starting a thread for this........got tired of reading through 3 to 4 threads to get rumors and info.
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Post by hammer on Jan 9, 2015 13:57:06 GMT -5
Ok, I doubt it was me (ha, ha) since my wife is a BIG TIME ND Booster. And furthermore, very seldom did I "hammer" Jim on his coaching abilities.
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Post by Mocha on Jan 9, 2015 14:00:38 GMT -5
Add his in-laws are in Ohio.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2015 14:12:18 GMT -5
He liked the idea of coaching the "Fighting" Irish?
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Post by courtside on Jan 9, 2015 14:14:39 GMT -5
Didn't his wife play soccer at ND?
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Post by Wolfgang on Jan 9, 2015 15:35:04 GMT -5
Don't be so naive. It's always Jesus.
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Post by Paulj on Jan 9, 2015 15:58:01 GMT -5
Jesus did NOT call Jim to serve....we all know He'd have picked Micha....
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Post by rockhopper on Jan 9, 2015 16:33:48 GMT -5
Washington doesn't wear blue...
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Post by ay2013 on Jan 9, 2015 16:50:03 GMT -5
lol why would I stab JMAC?
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Post by volleyfan24 on Jan 9, 2015 17:41:01 GMT -5
The answer to me is pretty clear. It has to be salary. He has developed a consistent Top 25 volleyball program/school at Washington. He lands great recruits and has the resources to have continued success there. He must feel a little down after the way the last two seasons have panned out. Washington winning a PAC-12 title then flopping in an at home Final Four, then losing in the sweet 16 while hosting when landing at Top 4 seed. Maybe he just wants a fresh start.
I am personally stunned by the move. Recruiting will definitely be harder at ND, its like building a program from the bottom up. The only thing ND offers Washington doesn't is the education, history and prestige. I think Washington offers better competition in the PAC for sure. I feel for the girls he recruited. I hope Washington lands a great coach to keep them competitive in the PAC cause all the pieces are there.
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Post by #skoskers on Jan 9, 2015 17:58:04 GMT -5
lol why would I stab JMAC? I'm sure JMac would take you out with one punch. ;-) Hang in there, buddy.
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Post by zenyada on Jan 9, 2015 18:14:08 GMT -5
Love the concept of human free will, and admire people taking on risks and challenges-in-life, and wish the classy JM the very best. But the personal journey stuff aside, for me JM taking the ND job would be a head scratcher. For other capable coaches in less desirable roles, absolutely a great opportunity. Could the December 12th match have possibly gotten into his head? This conjures up a delusional "grass-is-greener" reaction for me. JM-Malibu might relate to "you don't know what you've got 'til it's gone"..another JM.
Money- I don't believe money is the reason. Indiana has fixed 3.5% state income tax, not large, but still. Washington, none. At $274,000+ per year, you have a very nice lifestyle in Seattle. It's not going to get better in South Bend, and no significantly greater generational wealth is going to be created over the same period after taxes.
Academics: Washington is considered a top research university and one of the "Public Ivies". Notre Dame has national brand cache on the job market, but in Seattle you're schooling in one of the top job markets in the US, with Amazon, Microsoft, Starbucks, Nordstrom and many others.
Attendance: No doubt JM benefitted from large crowds at UW with recruits. UW / Seattle's passion for VB surpasses South Bend's. Washington averaged 3,000 at home, ND 1,000. Student's UW-44,000; ND-12,000. Southbend 100,000 population. The ND gym going to feel empty, and wish him luck creating the same energy. He'll be recruiting more directly with Nebraska, sellouts, 8,000 per? Lincoln, 285,000 pop.
Location works both ways: ND is surrounded by volleyball traditions at Illinois, Wisconsin, Ohio State, Michigans, Kentucky, Louisville. The notion that he's going to "move-in" and consistently "pluck" future top recruits from top coaches and programs is ambitious to say the least. Not to mention PSU and Nebraska selling into the same group. How does this result in "easier" and/or superior result than recruiting into UW and competing in the Pac-12?
VB Population: A move based on the belief that the Midwest has more talented club players to draw from seems flawed at least based on population stats for vb states, and trend toward international players. CA + WA, OR, UT, CO, HA = 58 M pop. IN + Il, MN,MI ,KY ,OH= 38 M. How'd the Under Armour game go for the east? He already had looks at top Canadian players at UW. Maybe he thinks there is just more height to coach up? We could get into a long discussion on Pac-12 speed vs B1G size in a Rose Bowl and basketball context, and I think that argument would get diffused.
Exposure: The value of ESPN's ACC TV coverage seems a bit uncertain and far-off to give great stock, and this motivator assumes a burgeoning talent pool in the east, so its curious if this weighed heavily in a decision.
In-laws: I don't beleive JM told his team that this this decision was made based on his family's desire to be within a 4.5 hour drive of his in-laws in Ohio. And I don't beleive its the truth.
In the end, the potential is at least intriguing, the move good for women's volleyball, and it doesn't matter what I think. But its pushing a rock up a steep hill (again), and will take time. If the move happens, a very interesting decision imo. Add "be careful what you wish for" cliche to above.
Wishing UW a great hire, and continued success.
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Post by jsn112 on Jan 9, 2015 18:16:07 GMT -5
Does this mean Penn State has to play Washington in the first round in the near future?
Low blow, I know. But it is well deserved.
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Post by Mocha on Jan 9, 2015 18:18:44 GMT -5
Does this mean Penn State has to play Washington in the first round in the near future? Low blow, I know. But it is well deserved. You really think Penn State is going to drop that much without Hancock?
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