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Post by zenyada on Jan 10, 2015 6:53:13 GMT -5
I admire JMac's ability, drive and ambition, and I'm 90% certain it's about the $$$. I just find the risk/reward analysis and decision interesting. But it's his worthwhile experiment. And I cringe at the thinking that in a day Washington's academics, geography, and brand are now somehow limiting, second class (compared to Nebraska and Penn State, really?) Did RR allow himself this indulgence as he built Penn State into what it is today? And why did it take ND so long to realize they're sitting at the apparent epicenter of womens volleyball? "Might" and "ultimate" is where we have common ground. Here's the things I think can be said with certainty:
--- JMac has lost the recruiting battles for "the relatively few elite players" before, and he will lose again. --- Regionally Rose, Cook, Sheffield, Shondell, Hambly can all recruit their butts off, and they're not going away. --- The number of elite players didn't grow overnight because of JMac's decision to relocate, they'll get divided. --- The number of elite players in the midwest is growing, slowly, as it on the west coast and elsewhere, slowly. --- This decision is not some sort of techtonic shift in the balance of power in volleyball. Its a thoughtful experiment. --- It's not a fait accompli that ND womens volleyball will now rise to perennial contender for the NC. --- This experiment/ endevour will take years to formulate a clear result. You might say 3 years, I say 5.
Time to sit back, relax, and enjoy the show.
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Post by pepperbrooks on Jan 10, 2015 7:53:13 GMT -5
Someone in here said Notre Dame was one of the Top 5 WCVB coaching positions in the country. I would like to thank you I needed a laugh today Because...?
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Post by hardbop on Jan 10, 2015 9:13:02 GMT -5
For what ever reason he left for, ND is lucky to get him. I just feel bad for the team that is left behind at Washington. Girls that played for him the last 3 years and will be seniors this coming year and freshmen that are very good players who went there to play for him. The NCAA should change the rules so that the players who will be eligible next season as well as recruits who have signed NLI's vote to allow an immediate release vs JMac must sit out one year before he can coach at ND. If they don't allow the release then he and Brianna can play pepper for a year while waiting to resume their careers. I SAY THIIS ONLY HALF IN JEST. Fair's fair. If an option is unfair for one then it is unfair for all.
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Post by zenyada on Jan 10, 2015 10:32:20 GMT -5
Someone in here said Notre Dame was one of the Top 5 WCVB coaching positions in the country. I would like to thank you I needed a laugh today Because...? It is now apparently...based on pay.
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Post by notwvb on Jan 10, 2015 11:32:36 GMT -5
Nike swag got old and longed for Under Armour gear with big UA endorsement deal
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Post by socalcat on Jan 10, 2015 12:01:01 GMT -5
Does anyone think anybody will choose to transfer out of Washington with him gone? If so who would be most likely to do so?
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Post by socalcat on Jan 10, 2015 12:13:31 GMT -5
Does anyone think anybody will choose to transfer out of Washington with him gone? If so who would be most likely to do so? I think there was already 1 before this went down. [br Anyone could transfer. You never know. Don't you think it would be more likely from the incoming players then already established ones? I know theirs plenty that goes into it, like weather scholarships are available elsewhere and such. Just seems it be easier for incomming committed players cause they have no attachments there yet. Thoughts? I guess my question is, should we expect another Holman type thread? Lol
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Post by bigfan on Jan 10, 2015 12:20:41 GMT -5
The NCAA should change the rules so that the players who will be eligible next season as well as recruits who have signed NLI's vote to allow an immediate release vs JMac must sit out one year before he can coach at ND. . The NCAA will change this rule soon, if only to address football coaches moving around like crazy. If a coach leaves, the players should be able to leave also.
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Post by Boof1224 on Jan 10, 2015 12:36:10 GMT -5
The more I think about it, Stevie mussie of psu could be interesting option. She was recommended to rose by jmac and is a Washington almum. I think if Rockwell wanted it she could prob get it. I just don't see her leaving psu again. She will take over that program.
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Post by pepperbrooks on Jan 10, 2015 19:03:02 GMT -5
The more I think about it, Stevie mussie of psu could be interesting option. She was recommended to rose by jmac and is a Washington almum. I think if Rockwell wanted it she could prob get it. I just don't see her leaving psu again. She will take over that program. There's zero possibility she could get that job or even interview. She doesn't have anywhere near the necessary experience to take over a program like Washington.
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Post by tomclen on Jan 10, 2015 19:13:14 GMT -5
Mussie might be a head coach someday. But she's not ready for a job like UW.
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Post by dunninla on Jan 10, 2015 19:24:51 GMT -5
I think there was already 1 before this went down. [br Anyone could transfer. You never know. Don't you think it would be more likely from the incoming players then already established ones? I know theirs plenty that goes into it, like weather scholarships are available elsewhere and such. Just seems it be easier for incomming committed players cause they have no attachments there yet. Thoughts? I guess my question is, should we expect another Holman type thread? Lol My only thoughts are regarding the death of the english language. I normally don't comment on grammatical or syntactic errors in posts, but four in four sentences is just painful to read.
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Post by vbman100 on Jan 10, 2015 19:42:26 GMT -5
Does anyone think anybody will choose to transfer out of Washington with him gone? If so who would be most likely to do so? I think the transfers and changes in commitments will come from Indiana kids and surrounding states that may have chosen Notre Dame before if he was the coach there. Maybe kids like (this is just an example, I am not saying any of these would transfer) Lauryn Gillis, Danielle Cuttino, Azariah Stahl, Tionna Williams, etc. If he was the coach at ND a few years ago, maybe he gets a couple of those kids, and others like Carlini, Megan Courtney, Lexi Zimmerman, Kelly Murphy. I am not saying he gets all of those, but maybe 1 or 2, and that is what you will see in the next few years. The top kids from Munciana, KIVA, SPRI will be choosing Notre Dame often. And a lot of Texas and Florida kids would likely be in play as well. That was not the case at Washington.
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Post by Billy on Jan 10, 2015 20:24:27 GMT -5
Now he will be driving distance to John Cook's house
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Post by vbobserver on Jan 10, 2015 21:10:11 GMT -5
I'm busting out the crystal ball here, but this is what I'm betting on having watched JMAC over the years at UW. His decision has a ton to do with family, his wife, an agreement they made upon taking the UW job, and he had the job option of an outfit that has huge potential. In no way, I repeat, in no way does this have ANYTHING to do with UW and his ability to recruit there or win there. He is a husband and a man that has a good enough wife, or shall I say, important enough wife (to him) that he would honor their agreement made back when he left ND. Further, I'm guessing that he stayed longer than they agreed upon. As Jim would probably say, 'The time had come." PS. In hindsight, I didn't find his facial expressions while coaching this last year as saying, "I am happy." He probably had a bunch of pressure on him knowing his deadline was past due. IMHO.
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