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Post by MTC on Jan 15, 2015 20:12:12 GMT -5
Carlini looked very ordinary against Penn State both matches this past year. I wonder if she might be leveling off with her setting. I have yet to see Weiskircher but she is in the right location to exceed current expectations. I can't wait to see them go head to head now that the Badgers have a great recruiting class to surround her.
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Post by akbar on Jan 15, 2015 20:46:01 GMT -5
Carlini looked very ordinary against Penn State both matches this past year. I wonder if she might be leveling off with her setting. I have yet to see Weiskircher but she is in the right location to exceed current expectations. I can't wait to see them go head to head now that the Badgers have a great recruiting class to surround her. I think we can discount the last match, literally played on one wheel, couldn't serve a ball in or move laterally for a ball very well. In the first match up, she played well but PSU was extremely good. On your last point, I too am eager to see how this new batch of badgers handles the rigor of the B1G. Good coach and great setter certainly helps.
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Post by MTC on Jan 16, 2015 16:06:56 GMT -5
Carlini looked very ordinary against Penn State both matches this past year. I wonder if she might be leveling off with her setting. I have yet to see Weiskircher but she is in the right location to exceed current expectations. I can't wait to see them go head to head now that the Badgers have a great recruiting class to surround her. I think we can discount the last match, literally played on one wheel, couldn't serve a ball in or move laterally for a ball very well. In the first match up, she played well but PSU was extremely good. On your last point, I too am eager to see how this new batch of badgers handles the rigor of the B1G. Good coach and great setter certainly helps. When I reviewed the last Badger-Lion match I was surprised at how accurate the Badger back row players passed. Carlini often had to take less than 3 steps to set her hitters while Hancock had to chase many poor passes. I hope Weiskircher gets better passing than that next year.
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Post by SportyBucky on Jan 28, 2015 9:00:14 GMT -5
Carlini looked very ordinary against Penn State both matches this past year. I wonder if she might be leveling off with her setting. I have yet to see Weiskircher but she is in the right location to exceed current expectations. I can't wait to see them go head to head now that the Badgers have a great recruiting class to surround her. Are you kidding me? Maybe the first match, but she had an injury the second and managed to take a set. Had she not been injured midway through the first set, it may have been a different story. Leveling off? WTW?
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Post by dorothymantooth on Jan 28, 2015 9:08:39 GMT -5
Carlini looked very ordinary against Penn State both matches this past year. I wonder if she might be leveling off with her setting. I have yet to see Weiskircher but she is in the right location to exceed current expectations. I can't wait to see them go head to head now that the Badgers have a great recruiting class to surround her. you don't know what you are talking about.
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Post by #skoskers on Jan 28, 2015 9:20:43 GMT -5
Courtney was not only not an AA, she wasnt all-conference honorable mention. I think she is a remarkable player, but going into the NCAA's a lot of people would have seen her as somewhat of a concern in terms of getting the job done. Obviously she went bonkers at the FF, but a weekend doesnt a POY make. I would say right now, she is less likely than Washington to be POY. If she is an AA its going to be a Keau Burdine type of all-american, good offensive stats, but her all around game demands she makes AA. Those playes dont win POY. Vansant, Lowe, Gordon numbers win POY. If you are anticipating her hitting .350 with 5 kills pg, I think you are expecting too much. When Courtney is on, she is one of the best offensive outsides in the nation. She can tear up any defense when she's playing her best, I don't think that's the case for Burdine, Burgess, or other outsides. She has a great arm swing, hits from a high contact point and can hit great shots. She's just so inconsistent. If she plays more consistently, I could definitely see her hitting between .320-.350 and being a major POY candidate. That's a BIG if though, and something she hasn't proven capable of accomplishing at this point in her career. IMO, the PSU player that has the best shot at POY (either in the conference or nationally) is Frantti, who dwarfed Courtney’s attack stats and was much more consistent at the net. I compliment Ali for hardly playing like a freshman last year; sure there were times when she was susceptible in the back row, but the girl played like a tenured senior in the matches I watched.
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Post by dorothymantooth on Jan 28, 2015 9:26:43 GMT -5
When Courtney is on, she is one of the best offensive outsides in the nation. She can tear up any defense when she's playing her best, I don't think that's the case for Burdine, Burgess, or other outsides. She has a great arm swing, hits from a high contact point and can hit great shots. She's just so inconsistent. If she plays more consistently, I could definitely see her hitting between .320-.350 and being a major POY candidate. That's a BIG if though, and something she hasn't proven capable of accomplishing at this point in her career. IMO, the PSU player that has the best shot at POY (either in the conference or nationally) is Frantti, who dwarfed Courtney’s attack stats and was much more consistent at the net. I compliment Ali for hardly playing like a freshman last year; sure there were times when she was susceptible in the back row, but the girl played like a tenured senior in the matches I watched. I would put Washington ahead of Courtney as well. Courtney is going to be their best "player" she is also a glue player. While she can go off in matches, she isnt a player who puts up silly numbers which wins the POY. I would love to see a Courtney win the POY one year, but it isnt set up that way.
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Post by #skoskers on Jan 28, 2015 9:44:38 GMT -5
With so much parity in talent, I wish the B1G (and other conferences) and the NCAA recognized players across multiple categories like they do in FIVB tournaments. That is, I wish we had a designated MVP, best spiker, best blocker, best setter, best libero, best server, and best passer award. Or, I wish there was an end-of-year dream team composed of an MVP, best outside hitters, best opposite, best middle blockers, best setter and best libero. I’d maintain the FOY and COY awards, but I’d be okay if we didn’t create a Fair Play Award.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2015 15:34:06 GMT -5
what would that demonstrate? Not much other than give a minimal gauge to see where she stands with one of the "toughest" players in the B1G. Lot of young players could and understandably be overwhelmed or intimidated going against a player of her pedigree, especially an older one. Furthermore a player in your position. How silly.
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Post by MTC on Jan 28, 2015 15:45:18 GMT -5
Carlini looked very ordinary against Penn State both matches this past year. I wonder if she might be leveling off with her setting. I have yet to see Weiskircher but she is in the right location to exceed current expectations. I can't wait to see them go head to head now that the Badgers have a great recruiting class to surround her. you don't know what you are talking about. Please tell us one more time how you know everything
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Post by dorothymantooth on Jan 28, 2015 16:22:27 GMT -5
you don't know what you are talking about. Please tell us one more time how you know everything I don't believe I know everything. I post on threads I have a working knowledge of, and when it is my opinion, I will express it as my opinion. In this particular case, you have never trained a setter, worked with setters, which is why I quite accurately said that you don't know what you are talking about. If you are suggesting that in the two matches between UW and PSU that Carlini looked "ordinary" you clearly don't know what you are talking about. If you said, she looked average "for her" or you felt Hancock played better, that is a different story.
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Post by MTC on Jan 29, 2015 1:43:54 GMT -5
I can't believe I'm saying this but you right. Carlini makes it look like she is hardly trying but she is very accurate. I wonder how much more she can improve b/c she makes very few mistakes.
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Post by WahineFan44 on Jul 9, 2015 5:27:01 GMT -5
Personal thoughts: Carlini and Adjanaku have to be the front runners as of right now. I don't think any other middles are realistically in the mix. Add that I don't think any other setters are in the mix either. That's no disrespect to the other middles or setters, they are just the best at what they do right now. Personally, I think it's Carlini's to lose. Granted, with POY typically going to a final 4 team, who knows what will happen. I'd say one of the other favorites would probably be Megan Courtney for the simple reason that she's a senior on Penn State. In terms of some of the others, Alexa Gray is good, but I think in order for her to have a chance, she's going to need to become a 6 rotation player. Macy Gardener has the edge on Gray IMO. I also don't think anyone else from Stanford would get the nod over Inky, thus I wouldn't even put Burgess or Bugg in the mix for POY, unless Inky gets hurt.YOU ARE THE ONE WHO JINXED STANFORD. LOL
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