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Post by MTC on Jan 20, 2015 21:08:36 GMT -5
This is me reading the last two pages of this thread: This is so cool.
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Post by gnu2vball on Jan 20, 2015 23:53:11 GMT -5
I wasn't at the banquet. Nyline's article stated:
"The first match for the 2015 Penn State Women’s Volleyball team isn’t until late August (this isn’t a tease — there is no official schedule yet), but at the post-season banquet for the 2014 Penn State Women’s Volleyball team, Head Coach Russ Rose announced the three team captains for 2015: 6-2 Sr. OH Megan Courtney, 5-6 Sr. libero/DS Kendall Pierce, and 6-4 Sr. RS/Opp. Aiyana Whitney."
RR "announced" the team captains. The article didn't say how they were selected. Might the team have selected them? And if RR did select them, maybe he knows what he's doing?
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Post by Phillytom on Jan 21, 2015 9:20:31 GMT -5
wow this thread sure went off the rails. we were discussing captains and DS's for next year and it devolved into Mello Anthony and Jerry Sandusky? Time to move on.
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Post by roger on Jan 25, 2015 8:42:02 GMT -5
Russ influenced by the players suck up? Where have you been?
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Post by roger on Jan 25, 2015 8:45:33 GMT -5
Big fan: How does Sandusky get into the conversation about volleyball players captain choices?
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Post by MTC on Jan 25, 2015 13:54:02 GMT -5
We have a few trolls who like to stir the pot. They seem to have negative thoughts most of the time.
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Post by psumaui on Jan 25, 2015 17:24:22 GMT -5
We have a few trolls who like to stir the pot. They seem to have negative thoughts most of the time. That's what the "BLOCK" button is for!
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Post by bigfan on Jan 26, 2015 18:27:10 GMT -5
Big fan: How does Sandusky get into the conversation about volleyball players captain choices? Paterno was in the news again last week {wins reinstated} which meant Sandusky was back in the news which over shadows PSU womens volleyball and itscaptains. Cant PSU get in through their thick noggins that they !!!!###$$$!!!ed up and stop blaming everyone else? Paterno and CO. over shadowed Penn St winning another womens volleyball Natonal Championship every where except the bubble that is Penn St.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2015 21:52:11 GMT -5
Big fan: How does Sandusky get into the conversation about volleyball players captain choices? Paterno was in the news again last week {wins reinstated} which meant Sandusky was back in the news which over shadows PSU womens volleyball and itscaptains. Cant PSU get in through their thick noggins that they !!!!###$$$!!!ed up and stop blaming everyone else? Paterno and CO. over shadowed Penn St winning another womens volleyball Natonal Championship every where except the bubble that is Penn St. Dear bigfan: All of this should really be on the Off the Net board, as it has nothing to do with volleyball. But you've put it out here, so I'm going to respond here too. To be clear, Sandusky was a monster. But just because you assert something repeatedly about Joe Paterno, doesn't make it so. Some very honest and smart non-Penn State fans disagree with the popular narrative about Joe Paterno that you apparently embrace. That doesn't make them, or anyone else who disagrees with that narrative, a defender of Sandusky or someone who values football over the safety of children. For example, people like Bob Costas ( who has won eight National Sportscaster of the Year awards from the National Sportscasters and Sportswriters Association), who has said “[Some people say that Paterno] knew that kids were being abused, and not only did he do nothing about it, but knowingly and actively was part of a coverup whose motivation it was to place the image of Joe Paterno and Penn State football above the welfare of these harmless kids. That is a charge, which if true, is beyond horrific. And I believe there is insufficient evidence to put that charge on Joe Paterno.” Or Frank Fina, one of the two main prosecutors who put Sandusky behind bars, who, as Kevin Horne notes in the article linked below, "was in court every day at trial. . . . He was the one in the interrogation room who looked into [the victims'] eyes and heard their tragic stories the first time they were told to anyone. Who could possibly have more sympathy for victims of child sexual abuse than a lifetime prosecutor who got 45 guilty convictions against Jerry Sandusky? . . . [When] he was asked on CBS last year if he thought Joe Paterno was involved in a coverup [he answered] 'I do not…And I’m viewing this strictly on the evidence, not any kind of fealty to anybody. I did not find that evidence.'” Or Richard Thornburgh, the Attorney General of the United States from 1988 to 1991, and Governor of Pennsylvania from 1979 to 1987, who, as noted in Kevin Horne's article, wrote a report last year that blasted the conclusions made in the Freeh report. Maybe you dismiss Thornburgh's conclusions because he was hired by the Paterno family to write the report, but as a former Attorney General of the United States, he is at least as credible as Louis Freeh (and I would argue, far more credible than Louis Freeh-- a man who was hired by a Penn State Board of Trustees that had voted to fire Paterno (without any investigation) and who, as noted in the Kevin Horne article, linked below (and many other articles), worked in collusion with the NCAA throughout the "Freeh" investigation). Here’s what Thornburgh has to say about Freeh’s conclusions: ◾“There was just a rush to injustice. In the case of Mr. Paterno, that injustice was palpable.” ◾“The Freeh report’s conclusion that Mr. Paterno lacked empathy for the victims of Mr. Sandusky’s abuse is unfounded and offensive.” ◾“[The] lack of factual support for the Freeh report’s unfounded, collective conclusions and its numerous process-oriented deficiencies call into question the credibility of the entire report.” ◾“In the end, the evidence against Paterno falls far short of sustaining allegations that he attempted in any way to conceal or cover-up Sandusky’s sexual abuse of children. In fact, the contrary is true.” ◾“Indeed, none of the evidence cited by Freeh supports a claim that Paterno acted to conceal information about Sandusky. In fact, the evidence is contrary to a cover-up.” There are many other prominent people with similar opinions discussed in Kevin Horne's article. You should read it. The link is below. One more thing, bigfan, before we turn to the articles. The Penn State women's volleyball team's accomplishments over the past eight years have been amazing. Nothing you do, or try to do, diminishes that fact. You are only diminishing yourself. Here are three articles that address the problems with the narrative you appear to embrace. I've customized the quoted portion of the first -- a piece written by Kevin Horne in response to Keith Olbermann's rant -- addressing it to you (in the probably futile hope that doing so might capture your attention). The unedited, complete article is linked below. And here's an article by Nancy Armour of USA Today Sports: NCAA failed victims in rush to judge Penn StateAnd here's one by Adam Rittenburg of ESPN.com: NCAA's involvement with Penn State penalties flawed from the start
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Post by bigfan on Jan 27, 2015 11:02:33 GMT -5
One more thing, bigfan, before we turn to the articles. The Penn State women's volleyball team's accomplishments over the past eight years have been amazing. Nothing you do, or try to do, diminishes that fact. You are only diminishing yourself. Im not diminishing myself, PSU is making itself look like a arrogant crybaby. This crap went down years ago yet PSU keeps fighting everything. Give us back our scholarships, reduce our fine, give us back paternos wins. This crap that PSU will not let goes keeps rubbing Sandusky into the national consciousness and completely smothers what the PSU womens volleyball team has done in the last 8 years. I want to think about the brilliance of PSU womens volleyball but here comes PSU dredging Paterno and Sandusky up again and again and again like they did last week. Why can't PSU move on from all this crap. I don't bring up what happened at PSU repeatedly, PSU does in its actions which leads to national news.
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Post by dorothymantooth on Jan 27, 2015 11:12:50 GMT -5
One more thing, bigfan, before we turn to the articles. The Penn State women's volleyball team's accomplishments over the past eight years have been amazing. Nothing you do, or try to do, diminishes that fact. You are only diminishing yourself. Im not diminishing myself, PSU is making itself look like a arrogant crybaby. This crap went down years ago yet PSU keeps fighting everything. Give us back our scholarships, reduce our fine, give us back paternos wins. This crap that PSU will not let goes keeps rubbing Sandusky into the national consciousness and completely smothers what the PSU womens volleyball team has done in the last 8 years. I want to think about the brilliance of PSU womens volleyball but here comes PSU dredging Paterno and Sandusky up again and again and again like they did last week. Why can't PSU move on from all this crap. I don't bring up what happened at PSU repeatedly, PSU does in its actions which leads to national news. I think the point you are missing, and that many are missing is the fact the "NCAA" had no business getting involved. While there certainly were institutional failures, none of them fell under the umbrella of what the NCAA governs. As an institution PSU should be held accountable for any failures, but not from the NCAA.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2015 11:27:11 GMT -5
One more thing, bigfan, before we turn to the articles. The Penn State women's volleyball team's accomplishments over the past eight years have been amazing. Nothing you do, or try to do, diminishes that fact. You are only diminishing yourself. Im not diminishing myself, PSU is making itself look like a arrogant crybaby. This crap went down years ago yet PSU keeps fighting everything. Give us back our scholarships, reduce our fine, give us back paternos wins. This crap that PSU will not let goes keeps rubbing Sandusky into the national consciousness and completely smothers what the PSU womens volleyball team has done in the last 8 years. I want to think about the brilliance of PSU womens volleyball but here comes PSU dredging Paterno and Sandusky up again and again and again like they did last week. Why can't PSU move on from all this crap. I don't bring up what happened at PSU repeatedly, PSU does in its actions which leads to national news. bigfan: your statements have no basis in fact. It wasn't Penn State that brought the lawsuit that resulted in the restoration of the 112 wins -- it was the Treasurer of the State of Pennsylvania (Rob McCord) and a Pennsylvania legislator (Jake Corman), and the suit wasn't about restoration of the 112 wins, it was about the NCAA's arrogant and stupid demand that it (the NCAA) have the control over where the $60,000,000 fine was spent. McCord and Corman sued because they wanted the money spent in Pennsylvania -- where all the victims resided. If the NCAA had thought better of the matter, and said "OK, the money can be spent in Pennsylvania," then the lawsuit would have been settled, and the restoration of the wins wouldn't have happened. But the NCAA was arrogant, fought the suit, lost in both state and federal courts, and the voiding of the consent decree was the result.
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Post by tclenpsu1 on Jan 27, 2015 12:14:58 GMT -5
On Russ Rose related note:
Coach Rose's mother passed away Monday. She lived in Florida. I don't know any other details. I wish the coach and his family best wishes and condolences during this difficult time.
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Post by vbkid111 on Jan 27, 2015 12:23:52 GMT -5
One more thing, bigfan, before we turn to the articles. The Penn State women's volleyball team's accomplishments over the past eight years have been amazing. Nothing you do, or try to do, diminishes that fact. You are only diminishing yourself. Im not diminishing myself, PSU is making itself look like a arrogant crybaby. This crap went down years ago yet PSU keeps fighting everything. Give us back our scholarships, reduce our fine, give us back paternos wins. This crap that PSU will not let goes keeps rubbing Sandusky into the national consciousness and completely smothers what the PSU womens volleyball team has done in the last 8 years. I want to think about the brilliance of PSU womens volleyball but here comes PSU dredging Paterno and Sandusky up again and again and again like they did last week. Why can't PSU move on from all this crap. I don't bring up what happened at PSU repeatedly, PSU does in its actions which leads to national news. Wait, who were named the 2015 captains again? P.S. Thoughts go out to the Rose family.
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Post by lionsfan on Jan 27, 2015 14:27:18 GMT -5
On Russ Rose related note: Coach Rose's mother passed away Monday. She lived in Florida. I don't know any other details. I wish the coach and his family best wishes and condolences during this difficult time. Heart goes out to Rose and his family/loved ones.
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