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Post by dorothymantooth on Jan 27, 2015 23:40:10 GMT -5
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Post by WahineFan44 on Jan 27, 2015 23:46:56 GMT -5
If thats correct that she hit .205 as a middle, thats awful. Not to discourage the girl, but thats not even a good number for a freshman OH, let alone a middle trying to replace holman |
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Post by c4ndlelight on Jan 27, 2015 23:49:03 GMT -5
This is old news, was posted on the transfers thread a week or two ago.
FWIW, LSU is returning their other starting middle and also signed two incoming, so it's not like they had a gaping hole there.
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Post by dorothymantooth on Jan 27, 2015 23:53:29 GMT -5
This is old news, was posted on the transfers thread a week or two ago. FWIW, LSU is returning their other starting middle and also signed two incoming, so it's not like they had a gaping hole there. I hadnt seen that, Its more interesting that they would accept a transfer who is eligible to play, but wouldnt release one to play. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2015 0:03:53 GMT -5
This is old news, was posted on the transfers thread a week or two ago. FWIW, LSU is returning their other starting middle and also signed two incoming, so it's not like they had a gaping hole there. I hadnt seen that, Its more interesting that they would accept a transfer who is eligible to play, but wouldnt release one to play. That struck me as interesting as well. Situational ethics? |
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Post by gnu2vball on Jan 28, 2015 0:52:07 GMT -5
We see it all the time.
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Post by dorothymantooth on Jan 28, 2015 9:27:47 GMT -5
can you give three examples? |
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Post by bkedane on Jan 28, 2015 9:31:14 GMT -5
I hadnt seen that, Its more interesting that they would accept a transfer who is eligible to play, but wouldnt release one to play. That struck me as interesting as well. Situational ethics? Maybe the situations are different? I don't know enough about either situation to know. |
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Post by dorothymantooth on Jan 28, 2015 9:40:34 GMT -5
That struck me as interesting as well. Situational ethics? Maybe the situations are different? I don't know enough about either situation to know. and that is exactly the problem. Transfers given releases or not is arbitrary, and the coach gets to decide if the "situation" warrants getting a release. ÄLL transfers are really a function of "I am not happy here" the why, is really here nor there. Whether or not this kid is any good, she was a starter, that after the season said, "I want to transfer", putting her school in a spot where they have to replace a player with no real time in which to do it. This of course was wholly unacceptable at LSU (which I have never disagreed with) I struggle with the idea of "if you transfer out of here you are going to have to sit because of the position it puts us in" but then turning around and saying " we welcome you in to play right away regardless of the position you put your school in" While some might call that an oversimplification, that is in fact what has occurred. Make them all sit, or let them all go. |
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Post by bkedane on Jan 28, 2015 10:05:16 GMT -5
Maybe the situations are different? I don't know enough about either situation to know. and that is exactly the problem. Transfers given releases or not is arbitrary, and the coach gets to decide if the "situation" warrants getting a release. ÄLL transfers are really a function of "I am not happy here" the why, is really here nor there. Whether or not this kid is any good, she was a starter, that after the season said, "I want to transfer", putting her school in a spot where they have to replace a player with no real time in which to do it. This of course was wholly unacceptable at LSU (which I have never disagreed with) I struggle with the idea of "if you transfer out of here you are going to have to sit because of the position it puts us in" but then turning around and saying " we welcome you in to play right away regardless of the position you put your school in" While some might call that an oversimplification, that is in fact what has occurred. Make them all sit, or let them all go. My view is that there should be a strong presumption that a transfer sits a year. The only exceptions would be hardship waivers from the NCAA. |
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Post by #skoskers on Jan 28, 2015 10:05:15 GMT -5
I don’t believe it’s an oversimplification at all, regardless of the involved programs and players. It seems hypocritical and downright dirty for a coach to be against releasing a departing player, especially after reneging on several promises, but more than willing to accept transfers and let them play immediately. IMO Fran’s coaching imperatives regarding transfers are, at best, arbitrary, and should be condemned by the volleyball community. I hope once the situation has a fair solution Briana will come forward to the media about what’s happened, because it’s a story that definitely needs to be told. I would advocate the same thing if Briana picked Penn State or Wisconsin and suffered the same whims of a duplicitous coach.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Jan 28, 2015 10:11:53 GMT -5
Let the girl play. Let them all play.
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Post by volleytology on Jan 28, 2015 10:12:10 GMT -5
Maybe the situations are different? I don't know enough about either situation to know. and that is exactly the problem. Transfers given releases or not is arbitrary, and the coach gets to decide if the "situation" warrants getting a release. ÄLL transfers are really a function of "I am not happy here" the why, is really here nor there. Whether or not this kid is any good, she was a starter, that after the season said, "I want to transfer", putting her school in a spot where they have to replace a player with no real time in which to do it. This of course was wholly unacceptable at LSU (which I have never disagreed with) I struggle with the idea of "if you transfer out of here you are going to have to sit because of the position it puts us in" but then turning around and saying " we welcome you in to play right away regardless of the position you put your school in" While some might call that an oversimplification, that is in fact what has occurred. Make them all sit, or let them all go. Is the incoming transfer to LSU a 1st team all-American ? I believe all transfers should sit a year as they do in FB and BB. I find it very odd a 1st team all-American would transfer and decide to sit a year, but kids these days.... |
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Post by dorothymantooth on Jan 28, 2015 10:17:57 GMT -5
and that is exactly the problem. Transfers given releases or not is arbitrary, and the coach gets to decide if the "situation" warrants getting a release. ÄLL transfers are really a function of "I am not happy here" the why, is really here nor there. Whether or not this kid is any good, she was a starter, that after the season said, "I want to transfer", putting her school in a spot where they have to replace a player with no real time in which to do it. This of course was wholly unacceptable at LSU (which I have never disagreed with) I struggle with the idea of "if you transfer out of here you are going to have to sit because of the position it puts us in" but then turning around and saying " we welcome you in to play right away regardless of the position you put your school in" While some might call that an oversimplification, that is in fact what has occurred. Make them all sit, or let them all go. Is the incoming transfer to LSU a 1st team all-American ? I believe all transfers should sit a year as they do in FB and BB. I find it very odd a 1st team all-American would transfer and decide to sit a year, but kids these days.... If a kid is willing to do that, I think that speaks to them just not feeling where they are is the right fit, for whatever reason. I think we are all in agreement that they should all sit or all be allowed to go. |
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Post by InTheKnow on Jan 28, 2015 10:55:37 GMT -5
The reason this is a good rule for volleyball is that coaches can grant a kid a release if they handled things the right way. BB doesn't have that freedom all kids have to sit, even if they are a 1. good kid with 2. good reasons to Transfer.
I suspect in this case the player didn't reach those 2 criteria.
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