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Post by fightingminime on Mar 3, 2004 14:31:02 GMT -5
What jumps out at me is that Kansas has two. It's VERY difficult for a team outside the traditional top 20 to have ONE, let alone two. Whether this has to do with the best players going to the best schools or the best schools anointing the best players is open to debate. And then you can always factor in local . . . if the Kansas City area has a strong 18's club team somewhere this year, it is possible that Kansas was able to recruit local talent. Because damn to they love those Jayhawks in those parts. I know. I lived in KC for a year. Everybody bleeds blue and red and shouts random things that rhyme but don't make any sense . . . like "rock chalk jayhawk" . . . . what the hell is that? Plus, being an IL fan I have a personal hatred for KU since they tend to knock us out of the mens NCAA BBall Tourney (at least in recent history) and the beloved Bill Self BAILED and went to the enemy . . . but I digress . . . Local talent is a factor. If M1 club in Minn has a top 18 Open team, it is possible that MAYBE Minn has more pull for some local talent and pulled in a Fab 50 player or two more than normal. Peace.
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Post by TheSantaBarbarian on Mar 3, 2004 15:30:07 GMT -5
No Fab 50, at least from that list, going to UOP. It doesn't look good for their future.
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Post by Huskyfan on Mar 3, 2004 15:34:02 GMT -5
A local school should in theory have an advantage for getting recruits. However, up to the recent past, Washington has had the history of failing to get top local recruits, both in volleyball and basketball. For example: Benishe Roberts (Dillard) -- Long Beach State Kate Starbird -- Stanford (bball) Naomi Mulitaoaopele -- Stanford (bball) and many more.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2004 15:46:35 GMT -5
Kate Starbird -- Stanford (bball) My favorite WBB player, ever. I actually watched Stanford when she and whatshername (the "Hope is a Muscle" gal) were playing. Later Folkl, too. And that was the beginning of the end for Folkl.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2004 15:50:37 GMT -5
A local school should in theory have an advantage for getting recruits. And they do. Unless it's a Fab50, in which case she's still likely to go to a top 20 school. Looks like Kansas already has a 2005 potential fab 50, too--Savannah Noyes. Speaking of Noyes, also looks like there will be some top recruits from Nebraska headed out of state--since Nebraska doesn't have scholies to offer. Roehrig is another one? Jacobs?
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Post by SakiBomb25 on Mar 3, 2004 16:12:37 GMT -5
My favorite WBB player, ever. I actually watched Stanford when she and whatshername (the "Hope is a Muscle" gal) were playing. Later Folkl, too. And that was the beginning of the end for Folkl. Her name was Jamila Wideman. She's in law school right now at NYU I believe.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2004 16:21:46 GMT -5
Her name was Jamila Wideman. She's in law school right now at NYU I believe. Right. Great book. Is she still in the WNBA?
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Post by SakiBomb25 on Mar 3, 2004 16:29:10 GMT -5
Nope, she's not. I think she only played for two or three seasons and then after that, it was off to law school. However, she was a HUGE fan favorite because she was so involved with the community. I think she has been the last great point guard Stanford has had a in while (though Jamie Carey would have been right up there if it weren't for those damn concussions).
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Post by brybry on Mar 3, 2004 17:32:27 GMT -5
The problem with USC is that they lose their setter, their libero and their heart and soul of the team in April Ross. If the rest of the team doesn't gel with the setter, they will be in big trouble. It doesn't matter how great your middles are, but if you don't have the setter to deliver the ball, they are just going to be jumping around, doing nothing. Keao Burdine could take over for Ross in terms of leadership, but the libero and setter positions are big question marks. I know that some say Selheimer will be just as good or better than Davis, but she has yet to extensive time on the court in pressure packed situations. Hey, Sakibomb. You stole my darkhorse. UW was actually my darkhorse to win the NCAA tournament. I think Washington will have some nice weapons in their arsenal next season w/ Tomasevic, that other girl on the outside, plus Crystal Morrison. I love their setter too. They run a great system. I think USC's big questions will be at setter. Freeburg needs to get in better shape and hit the weight room. I recall from last season, her sets were lower than what a lot of the SC players prefered, and she could never handle the balls passed tight to the net. But I'd like to think that Haley knows a talented setter when he sees one, so hopefully there's something in Freeburg to build upon. Burdine was a pretty strong ballhandler. Not as good as Ross in passing but she's pretty reliable. However, I don't think she's one of those type of players that can be served every ball and be expected to carry the team (like a Kerri Walsh or Logan Tom). I haven't seen any of SC's 2004 recruits, but I hear that Gysin and Florian have good ballcontrol skills. We'll see how it goes.
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Post by eyejumphigh on Mar 3, 2004 17:38:21 GMT -5
I hate to burst bubbles, but Randel isnt nearly as complete as Orchard..... Not close.
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Post by plm on Mar 4, 2004 0:06:06 GMT -5
I'm sure that the state of Nebraska will probably have some more D1 recruits besides the ones who have already committed for '05 but IMO Kyla Roehrig isn't one of them. I've seen her play in the state tournament several times and athletically Kyla is just outclassed. At 6'3" she is so much taller than most of the other players on the other teams so she can hit over them. Defensively she is a big liability. Last year at the state tournament Kyla did play the full rotation. But and that is a big but, Kyla is just too slow to do very much digging or passing. Heck, I even saw more than once where Kyla was just too slow diving for a ball that the ball had already hit the floor before she made her attempt. IMO to even attempt to make it as a major D1 player in college Kyla would have to make the switch from OH to MB so that she could be replaced by the libero whenever she gets to the back row. But would Kyla be quick enough or be able to jump well enough to play MB? I don't really think so.
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Post by caljr on Mar 4, 2004 8:50:24 GMT -5
I believe the Big Ten is recruiting well. The 2004 class at Ohio State will put Stone right back in the Big Ten race. Michigan seems to have one of the nation's best recruiting classes, and according to the prep site, Northwestern is bringing in four of the country's 100 best. Penn State did well again and the Illini think they have some special players. Penn State and Purdue are dominating the 05 class and each have received commitments from three Fab 50 level kids. I doubt Minnesota is going to go away easily, so look for Mike and Brian to bring in some athletes. I really believe the Big Ten will be very strong in the next four years.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2004 10:53:28 GMT -5
I'm sure that the state of Nebraska will probably have some more D1 recruits besides the ones who have already committed for '05 but IMO Kyla Roehrig isn't one of them. I've seen her play in the state tournament several times and athletically Kyla is just outclassed. At 6'3" she is so much taller than most of the other players on the other teams so she can hit over them. Defensively she is a big liability. Last year at the state tournament Kyla did play the full rotation. But and that is a big but, Kyla is just too slow to do very much digging or passing. Heck, I even saw more than once where Kyla was just too slow diving for a ball that the ball had already hit the floor before she made her attempt. IMO to even attempt to make it as a major D1 player in college Kyla would have to make the switch from OH to MB so that she could be replaced by the libero whenever she gets to the back row. But would Kyla be quick enough or be able to jump well enough to play MB? I don't really think so. She's on PrepVB's top 50 list, so she must be impressing some coaches...
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Post by plm on Mar 5, 2004 1:52:19 GMT -5
Kyla Roehrig is a great hitter. 700+ kills last year proves that. Athletic wise Kyla just doesn't have it for the rest of the game. She just has that type of body that won't get any better athletic wise at least for the quickness that it takes to play defense and she doesn't have great hops. Her older sister was the same way but her sister chose to play basketball in college. There are others that share my same opinion. I'm sure there are lots of college coaches that are looking at Kyla but I would really be surprised if she makes a major D1 college program. I guy that I know whose wife teaches at Kyla's school told me that Kyla wants to play at Nebraska. If she ever does it would have to be as a walkon as NU has their '05 scholarships used up already. After seeng the quality of athlete that is at NU you can she why Kyla wouldn't be at the top of NU's list.
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Post by IdahoBoy on Mar 5, 2004 4:21:39 GMT -5
Although this seems to be no big deal for traditional powers like Stanford, USC, Florida, Hawaii etc., it is a great trend in the making for the Huskies. First of all, congrats to Washington. However, I'd like to point out that you missed the top three Fab 50-getting schools from your traditional powers list; UCLA #1, Nebraska #2, and Penn State #3. Stanford comes in 4th, Florida 5th, USC 6th. Hawaii is a very distant 12th. Hawaii has perpetually found talent and developed more than ANY other traditional powerhouse school. I attribute that to coaching. Although, they will have 6 Fab 50 players on their roster next season. By the way, the Fab 50 leader, UCLA didn't catch any for next season. Not a big deal, they still have 10 Fab 50 players on their roster this upcoming year. I think that UCLA is the not-so dark horse for the Pac-10 title over USC (9 Fab 50s) and Stanford (9 Fab 50s). When it comes down to it, depth will be the key issue in the Pac-10 next season, UCLA has the most of it. As a side note, there are only two girls heading to Big West schools next season? I think the Big West is flailing as a volleyball powerhouse folks. It's still a powerful conference, but I feel that since it dropped football, the other sports have been suffering. Idaho to the WAC in '05! (Here's hoping!)
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