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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2015 19:35:26 GMT -5
Has anyone here ever had to take a family to small claims court for not paying club fees? What's the process? Every year the club I work with has a player who quits midstream Nd the parents won't pay their dues in full...parents and players sign a contract at the beginning of each season agreeing to pay. It will cost you more to pursue than what it is worth. It's the cost of doing business sadly. What needs to happen is that anyone who owes club fee's can't play for any club the following year until they do. In most cases, its a well meaning families who are in a tough spot. Try to work out a payment arrangement, have them work it off by taking administrative duties, etc..... this is exactly how we do it.
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Post by rogero1 on Mar 12, 2015 20:39:23 GMT -5
In Great Lakes Region, players whose parents still owe money are not allowed to tryout for another club the next season until the previous club's debts are paid up. This prevents players from "club jumping" and leaving the previous club with a debt.
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Post by rainbowbadger on Mar 13, 2015 8:36:24 GMT -5
On Judge Judy, once there was a case of a family suing a club because they felt that the coaching/experience was not of good quality so they believed they should get their money back. I think they were from Wisconsin somewhere. Now I wanna go find that episode.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2015 8:43:39 GMT -5
I've done it. Pm me
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Post by vbman100 on Mar 13, 2015 10:58:47 GMT -5
I remember a club (I think I worked for them, but it was a while ago, like 10 years ago, so I don't remember for sure) that would post on their website the names of families who did not pay the dues from previous seasons.
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Post by bigfan on Mar 13, 2015 11:32:23 GMT -5
Any chance you get the people to pay up everything before you start?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2015 14:49:28 GMT -5
I remember a club (I think I worked for them, but it was a while ago, like 10 years ago, so I don't remember for sure) that would post on their website the names of families who did not pay the dues from previous seasons. My country club did that and it seemed classless to many of us. A number of members complained and it ended (and the manager was replaced). At least I would think that most of these cases are people that just do not have enough income and then had some bad luck during the season. Why stigmatize their family and their children? Try to work it out with them, and if you cannot, tell them in private they cannot keep practicing/playing.
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Post by volleyhoops on Mar 15, 2015 14:09:12 GMT -5
When my children played club, every club they played on required payment in full before the first transfer date and at least 50% was due before practice started. The clubs were nationally known and loaded with talent. I never realized that parents could avoid payment. Did the kid remain on the team? was (s)he earning playing time? I've also heard of clubs that would tell kids that they could make a "Ones" team and practice but never play as long as that family was willing to sponsor a better player. No direct firsthand knowledge, but I've been led to believe those clubs had families lined up to take those clubs up on those offers. Nice to have that kind of money.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2015 21:19:08 GMT -5
Several people have asked for the judge Judy video, which I do not have, but as a club director I have taken non paying parents to small claims court.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2015 22:24:34 GMT -5
Several people have asked for the judge Judy video, which I do not have, but as a club director I have taken non paying parents to small claims court. which I think is appropriate if all else fails. I still do not think public humiliation of their children is justified in any way as suggested by some posters.
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Post by rainbowbadger on Mar 16, 2015 5:30:32 GMT -5
Several people have asked for the judge Judy video, which I do not have, but as a club director I have taken non paying parents to small claims court. Haha, I totally misread your post. I was saying I wanted to find the video, and then you pop on next with "I've done it!" My bad.
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Post by vbman100 on Mar 16, 2015 8:48:35 GMT -5
Any chance you get the people to pay up everything before you start? Yes, some clubs do that. I give a discount of about 10% if paid in full before 1st practice.
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Post by vbman100 on Mar 16, 2015 8:52:04 GMT -5
My country club did that and it seemed classless to many of us. A number of members complained and it ended (and the manager was replaced). At least I would think that most of these cases are people that just do not have enough income and then had some bad luck during the season. Why stigmatize their family and their children? Try to work it out with them, and if you cannot, tell them in private they cannot keep practicing/playing. I think sometimes that is the case. Sometimes the family knows they will be scraping by and wait and wait and wait to pay and never want to admit they are having money issues, it is a sensitive subject. Sometimes they do not pay because they are not happy with the situation - playing time, coaching, etc.
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Post by rogero1 on Mar 16, 2015 22:11:20 GMT -5
I remember a club (I think I worked for them, but it was a while ago, like 10 years ago, so I don't remember for sure) that would post on their website the names of families who did not pay the dues from previous seasons. I also coached for a now defunct club that did that back in the '90's. None of those families ever came back to play for that club. There was a single mom who did not pay her last installment on her Division II playing daughter's senior year club fees. I believe she claimed bankruptcy to get out of paying it.
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Post by rook on Mar 17, 2015 7:40:45 GMT -5
The issue in our case is pretty simple, actually. We have a contract the parents and players alike sign that lays out everything, including financial obligations, coaches being in charge of playing time, etc.
The thing is that the team only had 9 players on it (we budget for 10, so this team was already "losing money"), they were just mad because one of her teammates in her same position was playing 6 rotations and she was only playing 2.5, and she didn't serve much because the girl she went in for has the best serve on the team. They of course blamed the coach and said they didn't like his coaching style, etc, but for the most part the rest of the parents have been happy with the season.
They still have 1/3 or their payment left.
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