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Post by bluepenquin on Mar 25, 2015 12:55:57 GMT -5
I would take Courtney over Franti, too. Courtney is much more versatile and has shown that she can step up her game in big moments. I agree 100% And furthermore, Courtney started the season opposite (and Whitney, middle)- their individual offense statistics aren't 100% reflective. Which can be a further argument w/why Frantti slowed or cooled down the second half of the season.
First part of the season; Frantti terminated much more efficiently than Lee or Courtney. Once Washington entered the line-up Courtney and Whitney were in better positions to score- Micha had more offensive options and didn't need Frantti to carry as much of the load. Or teams had more video to scout and game plan against Frantti? The consensus across these boards favor outsides who are 6 rotation players- which is highlighted in this years' AA. Not to say that Frantti won't be going all the way around next year. But as of championship point... This has been mentioned a couple times. I am not seeing any statisical evidence for this. Frantti's conference stats (3.26/.300) are almost the same as her overall stats (3.20/.310). Courtney's overall stats (2.44/.283) are better than her conference stats (2.14/.237). Just glancing at some boxscores early in the conference season to later in the conference season isn't showing a dip in her performance by Frantti.
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Post by alt on Mar 25, 2015 13:05:32 GMT -5
Who are the freshmen to watch? Who do we think will make the biggest impact on their team? Who (sight unseen) are we thinking will be a contender for B1G All-Freshman team and FoY? Tionna Williams, Wisconsin - With Carlini setting her, she'll be scary. Jordyn Poulter, Illinois - Better the setter, better the hitters. SSS, Minnesota - I really think that of all the freshmen in the B1G, she has the biggest potential to raise her team's level of play. Carly Skjodt, Michigan - She looks like she will transition nicely to the collegiate level. Mikaela Foeke, Nebraska - Power hitter. 'Nuff said. Who am I missing? SSS is a good call as dark horse for FOY. It seems strange to think of such a highly recruited setter as a dark horse, but people aren't talking much about Minnesota because of the down year. If SSS can help that team step up a gear from last year, then her apparent impact could get her into the conversation definitely. They still have good attackers. They were really young last year, a bit more resilience in the middle of the floor and more experience may just allow the gophers to improve substantially. IMO I do not see SSS a standout setter. How is she different than any other of the B1G setters. She's steady and all, but I don't think she is a standout setter. She will do good for that Minnesota team, but I do not see her an AA in her next four years. If she does get AA she would probably be a third team. Nothing about her seems elite to me in any sense.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Mar 25, 2015 13:05:59 GMT -5
Carlini will most certainly be the front runner for POY by a good margin, she is the best player in the league by a good margin IMO. Let's put it this way, if there was a draft among big ten players, Carlini would probably be the unanimous #1 pick by every coach in the league if not country. I agree she'll be the best player in the conference, and that often coincides with POY, but the selection is also influenced by the team's season. If Wisky drops to 4th or below, I would be surprised to still see her take it, esp. if one of the top teams has a player with ridonkulous stats
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Post by alt on Mar 25, 2015 13:10:10 GMT -5
Who are the freshmen to watch? Who do we think will make the biggest impact on their team? Who (sight unseen) are we thinking will be a contender for B1G All-Freshman team and FoY? Tionna Williams, Wisconsin - With Carlini setting her, she'll be scary. Jordyn Poulter, Illinois - Better the setter, better the hitters. SSS, Minnesota - I really think that of all the freshmen in the B1G, she has the biggest potential to raise her team's level of play. Carly Skjodt, Michigan - She looks like she will transition nicely to the collegiate level. Mikaela Foeke, Nebraska - Power hitter. 'Nuff said. Who am I missing? You are missing Alison Bastianelli. That girl was definitely under the radar girl, but watching that Under Armour All American, she looked like the go-to player for the East side. I think she could have been the teams MVP. I personally thought she out performed Tionna Williams. She was more dynamic than Williams IMO.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Mar 25, 2015 13:12:04 GMT -5
Who are the freshmen to watch? Who do we think will make the biggest impact on their team? Who (sight unseen) are we thinking will be a contender for B1G All-Freshman team and FoY? Tionna Williams, Wisconsin - With Carlini setting her, she'll be scary. Jordyn Poulter, Illinois - Better the setter, better the hitters. SSS, Minnesota - I really think that of all the freshmen in the B1G, she has the biggest potential to raise her team's level of play. Carly Skjodt, Michigan - She looks like she will transition nicely to the collegiate level. Mikaela Foeke, Nebraska - Power hitter. 'Nuff said. Who am I missing? You are missing Alison Bastianelli. That girl was definitely under the radar girl, but watching that Under Armour All American, she looked like the go-to player for the East side. I think she could have been the teams MVP. I personally thought she out performed Tionna Williams. She was more dynamic than Williams IMO. A top 10 recruit on one of the very best club teams in the nation is under the radar?
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Post by alt on Mar 25, 2015 13:13:31 GMT -5
I agree 100% And furthermore, Courtney started the season opposite (and Whitney, middle)- their individual offense statistics aren't 100% reflective. Which can be a further argument w/why Frantti slowed or cooled down the second half of the season.
First part of the season; Frantti terminated much more efficiently than Lee or Courtney. Once Washington entered the line-up Courtney and Whitney were in better positions to score- Micha had more offensive options and didn't need Frantti to carry as much of the load. Or teams had more video to scout and game plan against Frantti? The consensus across these boards favor outsides who are 6 rotation players- which is highlighted in this years' AA. Not to say that Frantti won't be going all the way around next year. But as of championship point... This has been mentioned a couple times. I am not seeing any statisical evidence for this. Frantti's conference stats (3.26/.300) are almost the same as her overall stats (3.20/.310). Courtney's overall stats (2.44/.283) are better than her conference stats (2.14/.237). Just glancing at some boxscores early in the conference season to later in the conference season isn't showing a dip in her performance by Frantti. I agree with you Frantti was a more consistent player for that Penn State team. She could get the ball down faster with less swings. Courtney can hit hard, but I don't think she is a terminator. When out of system sets were given to Courtney she would take a lot of it. She needs to be more versatile in her hitting. She has a good jump, she just needs to be better at killing sets that are not perfect.
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Post by alt on Mar 25, 2015 13:16:50 GMT -5
You are missing Alison Bastianelli. That girl was definitely under the radar girl, but watching that Under Armour All American, she looked like the go-to player for the East side. I think she could have been the teams MVP. I personally thought she out performed Tionna Williams. She was more dynamic than Williams IMO. A top 10 recruit on one of the very best club teams in the nation is under the radar? She was under the radar her first few years in high school. Even coach Hambly said she was not close to being a top ten recruit back when she was a freshman/sophomore in high school. She worked hard to get where she is now. Colleges were not all over her to begin with. Hambly is lucky he spot her early.
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Post by dorothymantooth on Mar 25, 2015 13:17:58 GMT -5
Carlini will most certainly be the front runner for POY by a good margin, she is the best player in the league by a good margin IMO. Let's put it this way, if there was a draft among big ten players, Carlini would probably be the unanimous #1 pick by every coach in the league if not country. I agree she'll be the best player in the conference, and that often coincides with POY, but the selection is also influenced by the team's season. If Wisky drops to 4th or below, I would be surprised to still see her take it, esp. if one of the top teams has a player with ridonkulous stats Agreed.
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Post by alt on Mar 25, 2015 13:21:59 GMT -5
Carlini will most certainly be the front runner for POY by a good margin, she is the best player in the league by a good margin IMO. Let's put it this way, if there was a draft among big ten players, Carlini would probably be the unanimous #1 pick by every coach in the league if not country. I agree she'll be the best player in the conference, and that often coincides with POY, but the selection is also influenced by the team's season. If Wisky drops to 4th or below, I would be surprised to still see her take it, esp. if one of the top teams has a player with ridonkulous stats I do not see Wisconsin finishing top three in conference. They aren't going to be the same team. They relied on their upper classman for the past two years. Having all that experience gone is going to be rough. I think Moorey and Carlini will do a fine job teaching the young guys the ways, but I think it is going to be a little rough to begin with. If Wisconsin is around 4--5th place at the end of the season, there is a slim chance that Carlini will be POY. That's why I'm thinking Birks or Washington (if she has a good season) can be POY, but thats only if Wisconsin places low.
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Post by rainbowbadger on Mar 25, 2015 13:44:34 GMT -5
I agree she'll be the best player in the conference, and that often coincides with POY, but the selection is also influenced by the team's season. If Wisky drops to 4th or below, I would be surprised to still see her take it, esp. if one of the top teams has a player with ridonkulous stats I do not see Wisconsin finishing top three in conference. They aren't going to be the same team. They relied on their upper classman for the past two years. Having all that experience gone is going to be rough. I think Moorey and Carlini will do a fine job teaching the young guys the ways, but I think it is going to be a little rough to begin with. If Wisconsin is around 4--5th place at the end of the season, there is a slim chance that Carlini will be POY. That's why I'm thinking Birks or Washington (if she has a good season) can be POY, but thats only if Wisconsin places low. Moorey? This is not the first time you've misspelled her name. I know it's Wisconsin, but certainly you do not think our libero is a cow.
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Post by alt on Mar 25, 2015 13:48:20 GMT -5
I do not see Wisconsin finishing top three in conference. They aren't going to be the same team. They relied on their upper classman for the past two years. Having all that experience gone is going to be rough. I think Moorey and Carlini will do a fine job teaching the young guys the ways, but I think it is going to be a little rough to begin with. If Wisconsin is around 4--5th place at the end of the season, there is a slim chance that Carlini will be POY. That's why I'm thinking Birks or Washington (if she has a good season) can be POY, but thats only if Wisconsin places low. Moorey? This is not the first time you've misspelled her name. I know it's Wisconsin, but certainly you do not think our libero is a cow. Yea exactly cause I think she's a cow... your comments don't add anything to this post Mr. Spelling Police.
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Post by setterball on Mar 25, 2015 14:35:26 GMT -5
I agree she'll be the best player in the conference, and that often coincides with POY, but the selection is also influenced by the team's season. If Wisky drops to 4th or below, I would be surprised to still see her take it, esp. if one of the top teams has a player with ridonkulous stats I do not see Wisconsin finishing top three in conference. They aren't going to be the same team. They relied on their upper classman for the past two years. Having all that experience gone is going to be rough. I think Moorey and Carlini will do a fine job teaching the young guys the ways, but I think it is going to be a little rough to begin with. If Wisconsin is around 4--5th place at the end of the season, there is a slim chance that Carlini will be POY. That's why I'm thinking Birks or Washington (if she has a good season) can be POY, but thats only if Wisconsin places low. What teams do you see finishing ahead of Wisconsin in the conference? I agree that they lose a lot of solid, experienced players, but as long as Carlini is there, I'm not sure any team (other than Penn State) is significantly stronger than them. I'm not saying that they won't drop out of the top three - the B1G has strong enough teams that everyone in the top half could potentially pull an upset here and there - but I'm just curious who you think will finish ahead of them.
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Post by WahineFan44 on Mar 25, 2015 14:37:25 GMT -5
I do not see Wisconsin finishing top three in conference. They aren't going to be the same team. They relied on their upper classman for the past two years. Having all that experience gone is going to be rough. I think Moorey and Carlini will do a fine job teaching the young guys the ways, but I think it is going to be a little rough to begin with. If Wisconsin is around 4--5th place at the end of the season, there is a slim chance that Carlini will be POY. That's why I'm thinking Birks or Washington (if she has a good season) can be POY, but thats only if Wisconsin places low. What teams do you see finishing ahead of Wisconsin in the conference? I agree that they lose a lot of solid, experienced players, but as long as Carlini is there, I'm not sure any team (other than Penn State) is significantly stronger than them. I'm not saying that they won't drop out of the top three - the B1G has strong enough teams that everyone in the top half could potentially pull an upset here and there - but I'm just curious who you think will finish ahead of them. Nebraska will be better than wisconsin. They return all their hitters, have the hardest hitting freshman coming in and upgrade at setter with hunter. Illinois will be neck and neck with wilsconin IMO for third. Nebraska and PSU will duke it out for 1 or 2.
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Post by alt on Mar 25, 2015 14:52:57 GMT -5
I do not see Wisconsin finishing top three in conference. They aren't going to be the same team. They relied on their upper classman for the past two years. Having all that experience gone is going to be rough. I think Moorey and Carlini will do a fine job teaching the young guys the ways, but I think it is going to be a little rough to begin with. If Wisconsin is around 4--5th place at the end of the season, there is a slim chance that Carlini will be POY. That's why I'm thinking Birks or Washington (if she has a good season) can be POY, but thats only if Wisconsin places low. What teams do you see finishing ahead of Wisconsin in the conference? I agree that they lose a lot of solid, experienced players, but as long as Carlini is there, I'm not sure any team (other than Penn State) is significantly stronger than them. I'm not saying that they won't drop out of the top three - the B1G has strong enough teams that everyone in the top half could potentially pull an upset here and there - but I'm just curious who you think will finish ahead of them. IMO I think that Penn State, Nebraska, and Illinois are going to be ahead of Wisconsin. Thinking Penn State at first and Nebraska and Illinois fighting for second. Yes I believe Carlini is a great player, but at the end of the day she can only score so many points. It all matters to their new comers on how fast they can get acclimated to college volleyball. I think next year Wisconsin is going to suffer a few upsets at the beginning, because there are lot of new faces on the court. Penn State even though not having Hancock or Gonzales next year I think they can bounce back. Russ does wonders with his team. Nebraska has all the players they need to win the national championship, but I think their mental game is to strong. Illinois has one of the best outside hitters in Birks IMO, they get a new setter. It all matters if they can keep consistent throughout conference.
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Post by firedup on Mar 25, 2015 14:55:07 GMT -5
Who are the freshmen to watch? Who do we think will make the biggest impact on their team? Who (sight unseen) are we thinking will be a contender for B1G All-Freshman team and FoY? Tionna Williams, Wisconsin - With Carlini setting her, she'll be scary. Jordyn Poulter, Illinois - Better the setter, better the hitters. SSS, Minnesota - I really think that of all the freshmen in the B1G, she has the biggest potential to raise her team's level of play. Carly Skjodt, Michigan - She looks like she will transition nicely to the collegiate level. Mikaela Foeke, Nebraska - Power hitter. 'Nuff said. Who am I missing? You are missing Alison Bastianelli. That girl was definitely under the radar girl, but watching that Under Armour All American, she looked like the go-to player for the East side. I think she could have been the teams MVP. I personally thought she out performed Tionna Williams. She was more dynamic than Williams IMO. Skjodt was the East's MVP from that match and the best player of the group.
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