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Post by azvb on Mar 5, 2019 12:48:54 GMT -5
i have decided to try and increase my appreciation for ballet. going to see one at the end of the month.
While I appreciate the talent, I just don’t like ballet. I went to see An American In Paris last year. Checked my watch numerous times. I was pretty bored. Tap, Broadway, hip hop I LOVE.
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Post by mln59 on Mar 5, 2019 12:51:27 GMT -5
i have decided to try and increase my appreciation for ballet. going to see one at the end of the month.
While I appreciate the talent, I just don’t like ballet. I went to see An American In Paris last year. Checked my watch numerous times. I was pretty bored. Tap, Broadway, hip hop I LOVE. have you seen the play that goes wrong yet?
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Post by azvb on Mar 5, 2019 12:55:03 GMT -5
When you go on cruises, there are musical/variety shows every night. On most cruises, they're all free (well, you've already paid for them with your cruise fare). Best of all, they're all fantastic entertainment -- even if you don't like musical theater! They don't have the "best" (or well-known) talent but they put on a really good show. They don't put on specific Broadway-famous shows like "Les Mis," "Cats," or "Victor/Victoria." I think they design their own shows with tunes and dance numbers designed to entertain the mostly 50+ year old audience members. They have shows like "An Evening with George Gershwin" or "MGM Hits!" or even a magic show with a magician you've never heard of (but is certainly competent). Sometimes, you can tell the young dancers are new to the biz but that didn't matter because you could see that they're really trying hard. My wife and I always looked forward to going to those shows every night. The kids stayed in their cabins and argued over the TV remote. Overall, a jolly good time! We've been on 7 cruises over the years and no show has been disappointing. I’ve never been on a cruise. I’d like to do an Alaskan cruise-get me outta here during July or August!!! I wonder if I’m too much of a snob to enjoy the musical shows on a cruise? OTOH, there are some extremely talented people in this world that don’t make it to Broadway. Many Broadway stars performed at Disneyland or on cruise ships before they “made it”. Idina Mendel was a wedding singer!
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Post by azvb on Mar 5, 2019 12:56:13 GMT -5
While I appreciate the talent, I just don’t like ballet. I went to see An American In Paris last year. Checked my watch numerous times. I was pretty bored. Tap, Broadway, hip hop I LOVE. have you seen the play that goes wrong yet? No. March 23rd!
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Post by Wolfgang on Mar 5, 2019 13:57:27 GMT -5
When you go on cruises, there are musical/variety shows every night. On most cruises, they're all free (well, you've already paid for them with your cruise fare). Best of all, they're all fantastic entertainment -- even if you don't like musical theater! They don't have the "best" (or well-known) talent but they put on a really good show. They don't put on specific Broadway-famous shows like "Les Mis," "Cats," or "Victor/Victoria." I think they design their own shows with tunes and dance numbers designed to entertain the mostly 50+ year old audience members. They have shows like "An Evening with George Gershwin" or "MGM Hits!" or even a magic show with a magician you've never heard of (but is certainly competent). Sometimes, you can tell the young dancers are new to the biz but that didn't matter because you could see that they're really trying hard. My wife and I always looked forward to going to those shows every night. The kids stayed in their cabins and argued over the TV remote. Overall, a jolly good time! We've been on 7 cruises over the years and no show has been disappointing. I’ve never been on a cruise. I’d like to do an Alaskan cruise-get me outta here during July or August!!! I wonder if I’m too much of a snob to enjoy the musical shows on a cruise? OTOH, there are some extremely talented people in this world that don’t make it to Broadway. Many Broadway stars performed at Disneyland or on cruise ships before they “made it”. Idina Mendel was a wedding singer! Well, I've seen "polished" Broadway shows performed by top notch talent and I much prefer the ones performed by lesser-knowns. The effort and can-do attitude is incredible, not that top name talent don't put in the effort. But you can see the hunger and drive of the lesser-knowns. When something is too perfect, it's boring. I like things that are a bit flawed and imperfect. Makes things more exciting.
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Post by azvb on Mar 5, 2019 15:52:24 GMT -5
I’ve never been on a cruise. I’d like to do an Alaskan cruise-get me outta here during July or August!!! I wonder if I’m too much of a snob to enjoy the musical shows on a cruise? OTOH, there are some extremely talented people in this world that don’t make it to Broadway. Many Broadway stars performed at Disneyland or on cruise ships before they “made it”. Idina Mendel was a wedding singer! Well, I've seen "polished" Broadway shows performed by top notch talent and I much prefer the ones performed by lesser-knowns. The effort and can-do attitude is incredible, not that top name talent don't put in the effort. But you can see the hunger and drive of the lesser-knowns. When something is too perfect, it's boring. I like things that are a bit flawed and imperfect. Makes things more exciting. There is some truth to that. I saw Wicked once with a guy who had been the Wizard off and on for ten years. I could tell he was just going through the motions. The high school my kids went to has a great drama program. They have put on some incredible shows. I admit the only reason I went the first time was because my daughters best friend was in Hello Dolly. It was fantastic. They got a new director a couple of years ago. The quality has gone down. She just wants to cross it off her list of stuff she has to do to keep her job. The other director went WAAAAAYYYYY above and beyond, and the kids followed her lead.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2019 20:55:44 GMT -5
The wife and 13yo are watching Oklahoma right now. The movie. But that counts.
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Post by azvb on Mar 24, 2019 10:25:52 GMT -5
The wife and 13yo are watching Oklahoma right now. The movie. But that counts. Not my favorite, but there are some great songs. The whole ballet thing 🤪🤪
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Post by azvb on Mar 24, 2019 10:28:59 GMT -5
have you seen the play that goes wrong yet? No. March 23rd! I haven’t laughed so hard in a long time. Yet, the guy next to me was bored to tears and left at intermission. Not everyone’s idea of humor, I guess. Some REALLY talented actors. Looking at their bios, they’ve been in musicals, also. We really had a good time.
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Post by ironhammer on Mar 24, 2019 10:42:49 GMT -5
What is it about a stage musical that would make a good transition to a good musical film? Some films are just musicals without needing a stage version first (or some have a stage version after the film-i.e. the Lion King)? Some critically acclaimed stage musicals don't seem to work so well as a musical film (i.e. the film version of "Phantom of the Opera" and "Rent" were slammed by film critics). While other stage-to-musical films seem to have done better, like "Evita", "Hairspray", "Chicago", "Sweeney Todd" and "Less Miserables". What's the difference?
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Post by mln59 on Mar 24, 2019 16:41:25 GMT -5
I haven’t laughed so hard in a long time. Yet, the guy next to me was bored to tears and left at intermission. Not everyone’s idea of humor, I guess. Some REALLY talented actors. Looking at their bios, they’ve been in musicals, also. We really had a good time. fantastic. it was so much fun when i saw it. they have to be sooooooooooooooooo good to be able to be "wrong" with such timing and precision.
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Post by azvb on Mar 24, 2019 17:28:15 GMT -5
What is it about a stage musical that would make a good transition to a good musical film? Some films are just musicals without needing a stage version first (or some have a stage version after the film-i.e. the Lion King)? Some critically acclaimed stage musicals don't seem to work so well as a musical film (i.e. the film version of "Phantom of the Opera" and "Rent" were slammed by film critics). While other stage-to-musical films seem to have done better, like "Evita", "Hairspray", "Chicago", "Sweeney Todd" and "Less Miserables". What's the difference? Great question. The thrill of seeing live performers/singers just makes me so happy. I enjoy the mistakes (though they don’t happen often), the occasional ad lib, I don’t mind an occasional flat note, the scenery and costume changes are parts of live theater I love. I’ve seen Wicked enough times to know when they’re doing stuff off script and it’s so fun. I’ve only seen 3 of the shows/movies you mentioned that have transferred well to the screen. Chicago was, IMO, a better movie than stage play. Hairspray on stage was 100 times better than the movie. Same with Les Miserables-except Anne Hathaway was GREAT in the film. Sound of Music is much better on film. Might have something to do with real alps vs paper alps. And c’mon, Julie Andrews was amazing. There are rumors Wicked The Movie will be made soon. Big mistake, IMO. Again, the sets, the costumes, the no auto tune voices. I did not come close to answering your question. It’s very rare, IMO, the movie musical surpasses the stage musical.
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Post by mikegarrison on Mar 24, 2019 18:29:22 GMT -5
I haven’t laughed so hard in a long time. Yet, the guy next to me was bored to tears and left at intermission. Not everyone’s idea of humor, I guess. Some REALLY talented actors. Looking at their bios, they’ve been in musicals, also. We really had a good time. fantastic. it was so much fun when i saw it. they have to be sooooooooooooooooo good to be able to be "wrong" with such timing and precision. I haven't seen this one, but I've seen a lot of variations on the "play where everything goes wrong" play. Just like movie-makers are endlessly fascinated with movies about making movies, theaters love to put on plays about making plays, and usually these are comedies where they get to have total disasters happen during the production. This tradition goes back at least as far as Shakespeare, with A Midsummer Night's Dream. If you see enough theater, it becomes hard for this same idea to continually entertain.
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Post by Wolfgang on Mar 24, 2019 18:32:47 GMT -5
The wife and 13yo are watching Oklahoma right now. The movie. But that counts. It's a strangely entertaining movie. Some bizarre dance sequences set in obvious indoor sets with abstract-like decorations. Weird stuff. Ballet in a Western setting? It's like that dream sequence in Singin' in the Rain. "Gotta dance..."
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Post by mikegarrison on Mar 24, 2019 18:33:46 GMT -5
What is it about a stage musical that would make a good transition to a good musical film? Some films are just musicals without needing a stage version first (or some have a stage version after the film-i.e. the Lion King)? Some critically acclaimed stage musicals don't seem to work so well as a musical film (i.e. the film version of "Phantom of the Opera" and "Rent" were slammed by film critics). While other stage-to-musical films seem to have done better, like "Evita", "Hairspray", "Chicago", "Sweeney Todd" and "Less Miserables". What's the difference? Great question. The thrill of seeing live performers/singers just makes me so happy. I enjoy the mistakes (though they don’t happen often), the occasional ad lib, I don’t mind an occasional flat note, the scenery and costume changes are parts of live theater I love. I’ve seen Wicked enough times to know when they’re doing stuff off script and it’s so fun. I’ve only seen 3 of the shows/movies you mentioned that have transferred well to the screen. Chicago was, IMO, a better movie than stage play. Hairspray on stage was 100 times better than the movie. Same with Les Miserables-except Anne Hathaway was GREAT in the film. Sound of Music is much better on film. Might have something to do with real alps vs paper alps. And c’mon, Julie Andrews was amazing. There are rumors Wicked The Movie will be made soon. Big mistake, IMO. Again, the sets, the costumes, the no auto tune voices. I did not come close to answering your question. It’s very rare, IMO, the movie musical surpasses the stage musical. Live theater, like live music, is an event that happens once and then vanishes in time. The performers are performing FOR YOU. You can go see the show again, but it's a different performance. With a movie, if you see it again, it's the same movie. With a play, if you see it again (even the next day), it's a different performance of the same play.
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