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Post by thebeach1 on Jun 3, 2015 17:09:16 GMT -5
Your comparing apples and oranges. Since when does the AVCA Regional and All American awards have anything to do with the coaches determining who is the best player in conference? Your the one in denial in terms of understanding how the coaches came to the conclusion that Hudson was the league's best player in 2014. The Big West Player of the Year award has nothing to do with what is going on regionally, or nationally.
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Post by WahineFan44 on Jun 3, 2015 17:09:59 GMT -5
Liked for the first part, but do you really think Tai will be POY or are you being sarcastic lol Based off the results of the Europe trip, it sounded like many of the coaches were impressed with Tai. Despite her inconsistencies during the last few seasons, she shown that she could get it done. The only thing that might hurt her is if she chooses to sit out of the Sunday matches. Oh don't get me wrong, when tai is on fire, she's nearly unstoppable. AA level good imo, but when she's off, she's off, and it's always off and on with her. Hopefully she's more consistent this year. I love her attitude on the court. Always happy.
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Jun 3, 2015 17:10:48 GMT -5
Without Jackson, Carbrajac, and Reid, the Beach's transition game will be limited. Hudson may start the season as a leading candidate but it remains to be seen how that'll turn out. I think Hawaii's Tai Manu-Olevao will be Big West POY this season. Liked for the first part, but do you really think Tai will be POY or are you being sarcastic lol so can you explain how did Keddy won the POY on a fifth place team? ?
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Post by WahineFan44 on Jun 3, 2015 17:12:47 GMT -5
Liked for the first part, but do you really think Tai will be POY or are you being sarcastic lol so can you explain how did Keddy won the POY on a fifth place team? ? Keddy>Hudson. Had Hudson not won, she wouldn't be POY. I think CHISOM, had more of a case than her, regardless if the beach won or not. Winning the confrenxe isn't the end all be all, but it does help .
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Jun 3, 2015 17:26:08 GMT -5
so can you explain how did Keddy won the POY on a fifth place team? ? Keddy>Hudson. Had Hudson not won, she wouldn't be POY. I think CHISOM, had more of a case than her, regardless if the beach won or not. Winning the confrenxe isn't the end all be all, but it does help . so if Murray has a great statistical year, she could be POY on a 3rd place LB team. got it
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Post by WahineFan44 on Jun 3, 2015 17:30:19 GMT -5
Keddy>Hudson. Had Hudson not won, she wouldn't be POY. I think CHISOM, had more of a case than her, regardless if the beach won or not. Winning the confrenxe isn't the end all be all, but it does help . so if Murray has a great statistical year, she could be POY on a 3rd place LB team. got it Yes, If Murray produces POY numbers, I would have no gripe with her winning. Just like if a player on riverside was averging 4 KPS while hitting .350, I would chose her as POY. Even if riverside finished last.
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Post by WahineFan44 on Jun 3, 2015 17:30:59 GMT -5
Your comparing apples and oranges. Since when does the AVCA Regional and All American awards have anything to do with the coaches determining who is the best player in conference? Your the one in denial in terms of understanding how the coaches came to the conclusion that Hudson was the league's best player in 2014. The Big West Player of the Year award has nothing to do with what is going on regionally, or nationally. Except, it shows who the better players are. Hudson is great, but Chisom, Hinger or Magill should of got POY.
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Post by thebeach1 on Jun 3, 2015 17:36:41 GMT -5
Your comparing apples and oranges. Since when does the AVCA Regional and All American awards have anything to do with the coaches determining who is the best player in conference? Your the one in denial in terms of understanding how the coaches came to the conclusion that Hudson was the league's best player in 2014. The Big West Player of the Year award has nothing to do with what is going on regionally, or nationally. Except, it shows who the better players are. Hudson is great, but Chisom, Hinger or Magill should of got POY. I'm still having a hard time following your reasoning and logic, wahinefan44. Again, the Big West Conference Player of the Year award is awarded by the 9 league coaches who have determined who is the best player IN CONFERENCE. Your assertions that Chisom, Hinger and Magill had a better national profile are irrelevant.
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Post by fetchin on Jun 3, 2015 17:44:23 GMT -5
Hudson is by no means the most talented player in conference. Her deep dish sets are borderline illegal. She only won the POY award because Long Beach was so balanced last year and none of their hitters stood out. But lets be honest ,Magill wasn't set nearly good enough by Hawaii's setter to win it.
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Jun 3, 2015 18:07:18 GMT -5
Your comparing apples and oranges. Since when does the AVCA Regional and All American awards have anything to do with the coaches determining who is the best player in conference? Your the one in denial in terms of understanding how the coaches came to the conclusion that Hudson was the league's best player in 2014. The Big West Player of the Year award has nothing to do with what is going on regionally, or nationally. Except, it shows who the better players are. Hudson is great, but Chisom, Hinger or Magill should of got POY. nope, AA is even more far removed from the people (the Big West conference coaches) who observe the matches - and AA can be even more statistically driven (which is not necessarily a good guide as to who is a better player). Look at Misty May's stats while at LB - I guess she must not have been LB's best setter
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Jun 3, 2015 18:14:54 GMT -5
Hudson is by no means the most talented player in conference. Her deep dish sets are borderline illegal. She only won the POY award because Long Beach was so balanced last year and none of their hitters stood out. But lets be honest ,Magill wasn't set nearly good enough by Hawaii's setter to win it. ok, who is the most talented player? not the most athletic, but the one that is most talented in combined setting, blocking, passing, serving, & leadership, who impacts the game the most!!
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Post by gouci on Jun 3, 2015 18:36:12 GMT -5
Wow Hawaii and Beach fans are already arguing in mid-season form. LOL
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Jun 3, 2015 18:38:28 GMT -5
Hudson is by no means the most talented player in conference. Her deep dish sets are borderline illegal. She only won the POY award because Long Beach was so balanced last year and none of their hitters stood out. But lets be honest ,Magill wasn't set nearly good enough by Hawaii's setter to win it. ok, who is the most talented player? not the most athletic, but the one that is most talented in combined setting, blocking, passing, serving, & leadership, who impacts the game the most!! Tai Manu-Olevao.
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Post by WahineFan44 on Jun 3, 2015 18:52:44 GMT -5
ok, who is the most talented player? not the most athletic, but the one that is most talented in combined setting, blocking, passing, serving, & leadership, who impacts the game the most!! Tai-Manu Olevao. If this happens, I will be the first to admit you called it and we're completely right.
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Jun 3, 2015 20:37:26 GMT -5
Hudson is by no means the most talented player in conference. Her deep dish sets are borderline illegal. She only won the POY award because Long Beach was so balanced last year and none of their hitters stood out. But lets be honest ,Magill wasn't set nearly good enough by Hawaii's setter to win it. that takes talent to set while not crossing the line of being illegal - i.e., she's so good, her sets shouldn't be allowed
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