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Post by BeachbytheBay on Jun 3, 2015 20:39:05 GMT -5
so if Murray has a great statistical year, she could be POY on a 3rd place LB team. got it Yes, If Murray produces POY numbers, I would have no gripe with her winning. Just like if a player on riverside was averging 4 KPS while hitting .350, I would chose her as POY. Even if riverside finished last. if any player on Riverside is hitting 0.350, they sure as heck better be getting set a lot more and getting more than 4 kps or Riverside needs to change setters !!!
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Post by jake on Jun 3, 2015 20:45:44 GMT -5
My picks - UCSB with new players could be #1 1. Hawaii 2. UCSB 3. CSU Long Beach 4. Cal Poly SLO 5. UC Davis 6. CSU Northridge 7. UC Irvine 8. UC Riverside 9. CSU Fullerton Never happen,.. .CAL POLY has been there and done that. POLY will sweep the gauchos this year.
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Post by WahineFan44 on Jun 3, 2015 20:55:28 GMT -5
My picks - UCSB with new players could be #1 1. Hawaii 2. UCSB 3. CSU Long Beach 4. Cal Poly SLO 5. UC Davis 6. CSU Northridge 7. UC Irvine 8. UC Riverside 9. CSU Fullerton Never happen,.. .CAL POLY has been there and done that. POLY will sweep the gauchos this year. ...... The gauchos return everyone, and add far better recruits, one who was ranked in the top 20 and is the real deal. No way poly sweeps them lol.
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Post by fetchin on Jun 3, 2015 21:35:29 GMT -5
Never happen,.. .CAL POLY has been there and done that. POLY will sweep the gauchos this year. ...... The gauchos return everyone, and add far better recruits, one who was ranked in the top 20 and is the real deal. No way poly sweeps them lol. Be careful before you over rate a player, her sister was ranked 2nd, and isn't exactly lighting the collegiate game on fire.
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Post by WahineFan44 on Jun 3, 2015 21:59:00 GMT -5
...... The gauchos return everyone, and add far better recruits, one who was ranked in the top 20 and is the real deal. No way poly sweeps them lol. Be careful before you over rate a player, her sister was ranked 2nd, and isn't exactly lighting the collegiate game on fire. I think Elise could thrive in a different offense on a different team imo. And I've talked to people who seen both play, and a lot say Linsey is the real deal, Espcially playing in the big west, but you're richt. Shouldn't be over hyping her.
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Post by Victory At Hand on Jun 3, 2015 22:40:39 GMT -5
Your comparing apples and oranges. Since when does the AVCA Regional and All American awards have anything to do with the coaches determining who is the best player in conference? Your the one in denial in terms of understanding how the coaches came to the conclusion that Hudson was the league's best player in 2014. The Big West Player of the Year award has nothing to do with what is going on regionally, or nationally. Hudson is just overrated. Never had a league player of the year not make the All-Region Team, not to mention the honorable mention list. Of course last year, no one had the numbers to make the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd All-America teams.
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Post by WahineFan44 on Jun 3, 2015 23:23:22 GMT -5
Your comparing apples and oranges. Since when does the AVCA Regional and All American awards have anything to do with the coaches determining who is the best player in conference? Your the one in denial in terms of understanding how the coaches came to the conclusion that Hudson was the league's best player in 2014. The Big West Player of the Year award has nothing to do with what is going on regionally, or nationally. Hudson is just overrated. Never had a league player of the year not make the All-Region Team, not to mention the honorable mention list. Of course last year, no one had the numbers to make the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd All-America teams. Hinger and Magill imo had third team bumbers, Espcially over some of them on the team (won't name names brcause some of their fans are vicious) but it wasn't a travesty that they were left off.
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Post by soljah808 on Jun 3, 2015 23:55:46 GMT -5
Liked for the first part, but do you really think Tai will be POY or are you being sarcastic lol Based off the results of the Europe trip, it sounded like many of the coaches were impressed with Tai. Despite her inconsistencies during the last few seasons, she shown that she could get it done. The only thing that might hurt her is if she chooses to sit out of the Sunday matches. I'm gonna reserve all judgment on Tai until the season starts. I know she will be better physically and volleyball IQ wise. But her CONSISTENTCY has always been a problem for the years she has played. When she is ON....this girl can be unstoppable! But when she is OFF.....it can be a bit ugly to watch. So we shall see. But I see bright things for her this season! Ball out Girl!
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Post by HawaiiVB on Jun 3, 2015 23:58:39 GMT -5
Seriously, Hudson was not over-rated. In conference play, she willed LBSU to victory. Of course it is a TEAM sport. As a team earns the title, so will it's key players. UH had the opportunities to beat LBSU but they couldn't. Any of the key players on any given Big West team could have been the Big West player of the year. in the end, all teams campaign for its candidates whether we know it or not.
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Post by fetchin on Jun 4, 2015 0:20:13 GMT -5
lol - the discussion about POY at this stage is a little comical who would have made Hudson a pre-season POY candidate last year? ? NOBODY!! Nikki Taylor & Hinger looked to be favorites last year before the season started. You can't (well I guess one can) just dismiss Hudson as a potential POY candidate - she's proven she's a candidate because of last year. There's probably 10-15 players that are candidates at this time. New faces (like Hudson was). I think the only thing for sure we can say is the POY will not come from Full or Riverside. Every other team has a potential candidate - depending on a lot of things. I think LB has two potential candidates - Hudson & Murray. Hawai'i will run the tables in the Big West this season, the POY will be Tai Manu-Olevao. You heard it here first. I have to respectfully disagree. If UH relies on Olevao to be the first option, they won't be as successful as they hope. If Magill and Mitchem are options 1 and 2, UH will be more likely to finish undefeated in conference. I think those two will have better chances of getting POY. I am leaning more towards Mitchem unless Higgins's sets to the middles improve. Maglio will surprise everybody.
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Post by Spatch Gordon on Jun 4, 2015 2:11:15 GMT -5
Hawai'i will run the tables in the Big West this season, the POY will be Tai Manu-Olevao. You heard it here first. I have to respectfully disagree. If UH relies on Olevao to be the first option, they won't be as successful as they hope. If Magill and Mitchem are options 1 and 2, UH will be more likely to finish undefeated in conference. I think those two will have better chances of getting POY. I am leaning more towards Mitchem unless Higgins's sets to the middles improve. Maglio will surprise everybody. Agreed on Tai, thinking a player is going to go from hitting .196 to POY is a HUGE leap. Hell by those standards Withers would be the choice since he had over 400 kills but hit under .200. And coaches hate seeing the award go to 3 rotation players, which is why the 5-1 setter or true terminal 6 rotation OHs (Hartong) on the conference champs team get the award. My guess would be Taylor on UH if her elbow is better and she's 100%. That is if UH wins conference. I'm interested to see how all the international kids do on LB, can never count out Gimmillaro.
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Post by Garand on Jun 4, 2015 7:49:39 GMT -5
Your comparing apples and oranges. Since when does the AVCA Regional and All American awards have anything to do with the coaches determining who is the best player in conference? Your the one in denial in terms of understanding how the coaches came to the conclusion that Hudson was the league's best player in 2014. The Big West Player of the Year award has nothing to do with what is going on regionally, or nationally. Hudson is just overrated. Never had a league player of the year not make the All-Region Team, not to mention the honorable mention list. Of course last year, no one had the numbers to make the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd All-America teams.
Yeah, I hear all that, but Hudson is a very solid player. When it came to conference voting, she definitely benefitted from Long Beach's success, and I'm always a bit surprised when a setter wins anything (I know, I know, Carli from Cal a couple of years ago), but none of that takes away from the fact that she is a very, very good setter. Who cares about deep dish setting as long as its not getting called? (I would avoid it because it slows things down, but that's just me.) Finally, without some of the talent on last year's Beach team - back row players feeding her good passes plus monster hitters blasting away on her sets - her numbers will suffer this year, but she will still make perhaps the strongest contribution to her team of any of the 49'ers. A top drawer setter's true worth becomes apparent when the back row and front row aren't so strong.
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Post by zenyada on Jun 4, 2015 8:40:29 GMT -5
...... The gauchos return everyone, and add far better recruits, one who was ranked in the top 20 and is the real deal. No way poly sweeps them lol. Be careful before you over rate a player, her sister was ranked 2nd, and isn't exactly lighting the collegiate game on fire. Sis is the real deal and game changer for the Gauchos. Had a monster club season. I will throw out the caveat that future setting will be a question mark for the Gauchos. Current recruit not the answef imo.
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Post by cardcounter on Jun 4, 2015 9:37:22 GMT -5
Be careful before you over rate a player, her sister was ranked 2nd, and isn't exactly lighting the collegiate game on fire. Sis is the real deal and game changer for the Gauchos. Had a monster club season. I will throw out the caveat that future setting will be a question mark for the Gauchos. Current recruit not the answef imo. Yes, if healthy should be a six rotation starter. Like her sister she has been beset with injury. She didn’t play the last two club tournaments because of injury.
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Post by Wahinevball1234 on Jun 4, 2015 10:50:24 GMT -5
The Big West conference is a conference that should be so much stronger than it is. Hawaii and Long Beach State are known as volleyball powerhouses. Yes in the past few years they have not been AS good in the recent years but they are powerhouses nonetheless. UCSB is a school that used to be a powerhouse... I cannot call it that now. Also all the schools are California schools with beautiful campuses many of which are right by the beach. Many of them have strong academics as well as great social scenes... So what is the problem with the Big West???
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