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Post by utoolity on Jul 19, 2015 21:14:16 GMT -5
Megan Courtney is 6'1? Not sure I believe that but she is a phenomenal OH. Always thought she was 5'11.
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Post by BeiBei on Jul 19, 2015 21:18:56 GMT -5
But for the fortuitous run to a national championship, Sealy could very likely be that shaggy bearded guy pushing a shopping cart in Venice Beach. Since that title, he hasn't shown that he has what it takes. He's smart enough, but he's a curious combination of prickly and laid-back. He actually did a very good job in his first year. That team has two undersized pin hitters (McGraw and Bo are 5-11) and finished much higher than expected in the conference standing. they pushed Cal and USC (both FF participants) to tough five setters and upset Stanford at PP. Andy cannot score a win over Stanford during Dunning's era until his last year and Sealy did that in his first. I think he will be a good fit at Stanford after Dunning retired. IT is obvious Sealy is a weak recruiter and probably hates doing it. Stanford pretty much recruits itself. Sealy has a great volleyball mind and will do wonders with great players
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Post by dizzydean on Jul 19, 2015 21:34:18 GMT -5
But for the fortuitous run to a national championship, Sealy could very likely be that shaggy bearded guy pushing a shopping cart in Venice Beach. Since that title, he hasn't shown that he has what it takes. He's smart enough, but he's a curious combination of prickly and laid-back. He actually did a very good job in his first year. That team has two undersized pin hitters (McGraw and Bo are 5-11) and finished much higher than expected in the conference standing. they pushed Cal and USC (both FF participants) to tough five setters and upset Stanford at PP. Andy cannot score a win over Stanford during Dunning's era until his last year and Sealy did that in his first. I think he will be a good fit at Stanford after Dunning retired. IT is obvious Sealy is a weak recruiter and probably hates doing it. Stanford pretty much recruits itself. Sealy has a great volleyball mind and will do wonders with great players So he can only do well with talent?
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Post by volleytalker16 on Jul 19, 2015 22:14:31 GMT -5
Because national championships aren't won with 5"10" outsides. She's a great player. It's not a knock on her but shorter players won't help you get that far. Name the last national champion with a sub 6'0" outside hitter. Brazil won the last Olympics with a starting lineup that included two outside hitters that were 5'10" and 6'0". Your argument is invalid. Noooo your invalid. The United States NCAA championship and the Brazilian women's national team are two completely different things. You have 12 subs in women's division 1 volleyball. You can go 6'9" if you wanted to front row and go 5'2" in the back row. You can't sub like that in international matches so players have to be more well rounded. Why do you think Penn State goes so big and wins. You're such a dummy.
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Post by volleyguy on Jul 19, 2015 23:14:31 GMT -5
But for the fortuitous run to a national championship, Sealy could very likely be that shaggy bearded guy pushing a shopping cart in Venice Beach. Since that title, he hasn't shown that he has what it takes. He's smart enough, but he's a curious combination of prickly and laid-back. He actually did a very good job in his first year. That team has two undersized pin hitters (McGraw and Bo are 5-11) and finished much higher than expected in the conference standing. they pushed Cal and USC (both FF participants) to tough five setters and upset Stanford at PP. Andy cannot score a win over Stanford during Dunning's era until his last year and Sealy did that in his first. I think he will be a good fit at Stanford after Dunning retired. IT is obvious Sealy is a weak recruiter and probably hates doing it. Stanford pretty much recruits itself. Sealy has a great volleyball mind and will do wonders with great players I don't know. After his first season and National Championship, he was poised to bring greatness back to UCLA. Instead, it floundered. Stanford always has/gets talent. Under Don Shaw, Stanford teams were hyper-competitive, even cut-throat. Under John Dunning, they're too nice (even complacent). I wouldn't categorize Sealy as necessarily the intellectual (or rational) type. He's insightful in some ways, but in a new age-y unorthodox kind of way. I'm not sure at all that he would be the right fit for Stanford when Dunning leaves.
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Post by mplssetter on Jul 19, 2015 23:24:14 GMT -5
I am definitely no fan of Sealy but his recruiting is definitely getting better. His 2016 class is definitely his best by a wide margin. Van Winden and Miller should be top 15 players and Gates seems to be much improved. Not getting Hart is disappointing but landing Mosser especially from Minnesota is huge. this guy can coach but his recruiting had been terrible for the past few years. With some good players on the roster, he can definitely "endure" but a NC seems unlikely unless he starts getting some top 5 talents Isn't Mosser just 5' 10? I don't think she is a huge commit. Actually Jenny Mosser is a legit 6'0". Listed as 6'0" for her club team and passes the eye test. Also she touches 10 foot. She's has a national championship (JNC and AAU) at 15U while at Northern Lights and this year excelled on a top 5 nationally ranked 18's team for MN Select and was on the AAU 18 open all tournament team as a sophomore. UCLA is lucky to get her.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2015 23:26:31 GMT -5
Brazil won the last Olympics with a starting lineup that included two outside hitters that were 5'10" and 6'0". Your argument is invalid. Noooo your invalid. The United States NCAA championship and the Brazilian women's national team are two completely different things. You have 12 subs in women's division 1 volleyball. You can go 6'9" if you wanted to front row and go 5'2" in the back row. You can't sub like that in international matches so players have to be more well rounded. Why do you think Penn State goes so big and wins. You're such a dummy. Really struggling to see what point youre trying to prove here.
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Post by C on Jul 20, 2015 0:47:33 GMT -5
Because national championships aren't won with 5"10" outsides. She's a great player. It's not a knock on her but shorter players won't help you get that far. Name the last national champion with a sub 6'0" outside hitter. Brazil won the last Olympics with a starting lineup that included two outside hitters that were 5'10" and 6'0". Your argument is invalid. The argument is not invalid. You're talking about the Olympics, while the poster was talking about NCAA volleyball. Looking back 10 years at past NCAA champions, suggests that the winning teams have all started OH's taller than 6'. I think we both know that no NCAA division 1 team is going to win a national championship with sub 6' outside hitters anytime soon, let's be honest.
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Post by WahineFan44 on Jul 20, 2015 0:56:50 GMT -5
Brazil won the last Olympics with a starting lineup that included two outside hitters that were 5'10" and 6'0". Your argument is invalid. The argument is not invalid. You're talking about the Olympics, while the poster was talking about NCAA volleyball. Looking back 10 years at past NCAA champions, suggests that the winning teams have all started OH's taller than 6'. I think we both know that no NCAA division 1 team is going to win a national championship with sub 6' outside hitters anytime soon, let's be honest. Put Kanani Danielson on PSU 2010, or 2009 squad and they win. Easily mind you. Same with Angie pressey IMO. If you have the talent to support it, its very possible. Harder? In some cases yes. But not possible? I disagree.
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Post by kokyu on Jul 20, 2015 3:03:59 GMT -5
NCAA's such a bore to watch because of subs. Sport only gets dumber every year in the states.
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Post by fetchin on Jul 20, 2015 4:09:40 GMT -5
Isn't Mosser just 5' 10? I don't think she is a huge commit. Actually Jenny Mosser is a legit 6'0". Listed as 6'0" for her club team and passes the eye test. Also she touches 10 foot. She's has a national championship (JNC and AAU) at 15U while at Northern Lights and this year excelled on a top 5 nationally ranked 18's team for MN Select and was on the AAU 18 open all tournament team as a sophomore. UCLA is lucky to get her. She's listed at 5' 11 for uSA volleyball, club site must have added an inch and she looks 5' 10-5' 11 to me. I'm gonna be cautious for these undersized Minny all stars after Goehner.
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Post by mplssetter on Jul 20, 2015 4:34:52 GMT -5
What do you mean "after Goehner"? Are you implying she was over-hyped as player? Keep in mind, she's only had one season so far and she was a starter for MN. Or are you implying her height was inflated as a prep player?
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Post by fetchin on Jul 20, 2015 4:52:08 GMT -5
What do you mean after Goehner? Goehner was highly touted when she was 15 years old but ended up being a DS for a non tourney team.
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Post by mplssetter on Jul 20, 2015 5:11:02 GMT -5
What do you mean after Goehner? Goehner was highly touted when she was 15 years old but ended up being a DS for a non tourney team. Actually she had more playing time as libero. Minnesota had a young team last season, directly related to the recruiting gap between when Dr. Hebert left and when Hugh could officially start recruiting his players. I still don't get why you're taking cheap shots at Goehner and why that has anything to do with Mosser?
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Post by fetchin on Jul 20, 2015 5:13:22 GMT -5
Goehner was highly touted when she was 15 years old but ended up being a DS for a non tourney team. Actually she had more playing time as libero. Minnesota had a young team last season, directly related to the recruiting gap between when Dr. Hebert left and when Hugh could officially start recruiting his players. I still don't get why you're taking cheap shots at Goehner and why that has anything to do with Mosser? I dont think it's a cheap shot. I actually think Mosser could end up playing backrow only for the Bruins too.
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