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Post by thelat on Jul 20, 2015 9:14:11 GMT -5
What happened to the Greek? The outsides ar the biggest worry
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Post by pepperbrooks on Jul 20, 2015 9:28:12 GMT -5
What happened to the Greek? The outsides ar the biggest worry Olga transferred to Miami.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2015 10:15:54 GMT -5
Actually she had more playing time as libero. Minnesota had a young team last season, directly related to the recruiting gap between when Dr. Hebert left and when Hugh could officially start recruiting his players. I still don't get why you're taking cheap shots at Goehner and why that has anything to do with Mosser? I dont think it's a cheap shot. I actually think Mosser could end up playing backrow only for the Bruins too. Have you ever seen her play before?
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Post by alt on Jul 20, 2015 13:28:53 GMT -5
What happened to the Greek? The outsides ar the biggest worry Olga transferred to Miami. Why did she leave? She was a starter, and now that there is no more Lowe she could have been a right side.
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Post by GoUCLA on Jul 20, 2015 13:47:33 GMT -5
Olga transferred to Miami. Why did she leave? She was a starter, and now that there is no more Lowe she could have been a right side. She was a starter for a few matches. Most videos I've seen of her, she has always played on the left primarily.
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Post by hammer on Jul 20, 2015 15:51:37 GMT -5
Olga transferred to Miami. Why did she leave? She was a starter, and now that there is no more Lowe she could have been a right side. She needed to be closer to home to protect her downstream pension.
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Post by C on Jul 20, 2015 22:41:58 GMT -5
The argument is not invalid. You're talking about the Olympics, while the poster was talking about NCAA volleyball. Looking back 10 years at past NCAA champions, suggests that the winning teams have all started OH's taller than 6'. I think we both know that no NCAA division 1 team is going to win a national championship with sub 6' outside hitters anytime soon, let's be honest. Put Kanani Danielson on PSU 2010, or 2009 squad and they win. Easily mind you. Same with Angie pressey IMO. If you have the talent to support it, its very possible. Harder? In some cases yes. But not possible? I disagree. Every Penn St. hitter was over 6ft. To say that Penn St. would have won with either Danielson or Pressey is only speculation. There's no way to say that they still would have won, or would have lost. The fact is that no NCAA champion in the past 10 years (maybe even 15 years) had hitters under 6ft. that were starters.
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Post by BeiBei on Jul 20, 2015 22:59:17 GMT -5
Every Penn St. hitter was over 6ft. To say that Penn St. would have won with either Danielson or Pressey is only speculation. There's no way to say that they still would have won, or would have lost. The fact is that no NCAA champion in the past 10 years (maybe even 15 years) had hitters under 6ft. that were starters. the last team to win NC with a sub 6 ft pin hitter is 1999 PSU. Amanda Rome was the 5-10 soph outside hitter. However, I think she lost her starting spot and did not see much front row action in her last two years
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Post by WahineFan44 on Jul 20, 2015 23:26:14 GMT -5
Put Kanani Danielson on PSU 2010, or 2009 squad and they win. Easily mind you. Same with Angie pressey IMO. If you have the talent to support it, its very possible. Harder? In some cases yes. But not possible? I disagree. Every Penn St. hitter was over 6ft. To say that Penn St. would have won with either Danielson or Pressey is only speculation. There's no way to say that they still would have won, or would have lost. The fact is that no NCAA champion in the past 10 years (maybe even 15 years) had hitters under 6ft. that were starters. But you said no team will win. Yes no team HAS WON, but replace Dorton with FIRST team AA danielson, and they easily win in 2009. 2010 as well. Speculation? Yes. But Im sure Kanani would still be a starting OH on any team she played on.
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Post by itsallrelative on Jul 21, 2015 8:46:41 GMT -5
Every Penn St. hitter was over 6ft. To say that Penn St. would have won with either Danielson or Pressey is only speculation. There's no way to say that they still would have won, or would have lost. The fact is that no NCAA champion in the past 10 years (maybe even 15 years) had hitters under 6ft. that were starters. But you said no team will win. Yes no team HAS WON, but replace Dorton with FIRST team AA danielson, and they easily win in 2009. 2010 as well. Speculation? Yes. But Im sure Kanani would still be a starting OH on any team she played on. so, let me get this right....let's take a dominant 2009 team, that went undefeated for the season, and assert that they WOULD HAVE WON if they had Kanani in place of one of their players? what an argument....
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Post by StuffU on Jul 21, 2015 9:46:36 GMT -5
When I open a thread about, "Will UCLA be relevant?, I always expect a discussion about Kanani Danielson and Penn State.
.....ummmm, yeah.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Jul 21, 2015 9:52:38 GMT -5
Every Penn St. hitter was over 6ft. To say that Penn St. would have won with either Danielson or Pressey is only speculation. There's no way to say that they still would have won, or would have lost. The fact is that no NCAA champion in the past 10 years (maybe even 15 years) had hitters under 6ft. that were starters. the last team to win NC with a sub 6 ft pin hitter is 1999 PSU. Amanda Rome was the 5-10 soph outside hitter. However, I think she lost her starting spot and did not see much front row action in her last two years Kelly Reeves was not actually 6 feet tall.
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Post by WahineFan44 on Jul 21, 2015 10:35:42 GMT -5
But you said no team will win. Yes no team HAS WON, but replace Dorton with FIRST team AA danielson, and they easily win in 2009. 2010 as well. Speculation? Yes. But Im sure Kanani would still be a starting OH on any team she played on. so, let me get this right....let's take a dominant 2009 team, that went undefeated for the season, and assert that they WOULD HAVE WON if they had Kanani in place of one of their players? what an argument.... The argument is that he is making is that no team will win with a sub 6 hitter, and Im making the argument that it is possible.
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Post by zuzu1227 on Jul 21, 2015 11:04:25 GMT -5
Because national championships aren't won with 5"10" outsides. She's a great player. It's not a knock on her but shorter players won't help you get that far. Name the last national champion with a sub 6'0" outside hitter. The last national champion with an actual sub-6'0" outside hitter, or listed as sub-6'0" on the roster? Veronica Walls from Long Beach State was 5'10
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Post by volleytalker16 on Jul 21, 2015 12:37:04 GMT -5
The last national champion with an actual sub-6'0" outside hitter, or listed as sub-6'0" on the roster? Veronica Walls from Long Beach State was 5'10 Exactly. Different time and era. I don't think Danielaon would have played on one of those Penn State teams either. She got the all american nod because of her contribution on an undersized wahine team. Look at Fatima at Prnn State. She got the all american nod one year but the next year she was undersized to a 6'6 middle. Danielson would have been too small even for those Penn State squads. My point to all of this is just because you're an all american doesn't mean you'll be the starter on a national championship necessarily. Mosser is good but not the impact player you need. If I'm UCLA I'm being told to win national championships. I doubt the AD expects anything less.
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