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Post by Volleyballdad on Oct 7, 2015 10:02:35 GMT -5
I need to know if there is any legal action that can be taken against my daughter's last coach? She purposely told several coaches that my daughter was not eligible and not interested in their universities. Thanks to my daughters new coach listening to my daughter and starting her own investigation, she found my daughter to be eligible and interested. My daughter has since moved on to a NAIA, but in not happy with the competition level. Unfortunately my daughter is too trusting and believed the coach was trying to assist her in getting back to a higher level of volleyball, only to find out she wanted her to stay and continue to play on her beach team. I have personally had conversations with 3 coaches that were interested in my daughter and the all stated the same thing. This should not happen to anyone's child and I want to make sure this coach does not continue doing this to others.
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Post by vboldskool on Oct 7, 2015 10:11:17 GMT -5
Interesting...
I suppose if you have the money and the time you could claim damages in a civil case. Some attorney would be happy to take it and run up some hours. It would be a interesting to see if law out there supports that coach has a fiduciary obligation to assist a player wanting to transfer. I would suspect that element is not in a coaches contract or employment expectations, but I suppose it could be on the JC level.
If you go down that road, I would love to read the complaint and brief - add to my off-season reading list!
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Post by bigfan on Oct 7, 2015 10:18:08 GMT -5
Who is the coach? Please name.
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Post by vbprisoner on Oct 7, 2015 11:11:59 GMT -5
You need to give us more context.
Was she playing indoor volleyball and Sand at a NCAA University / College and what division?
Was she on scholarship and wanted to transfer?
If she was on scholarship was she losing her scholarship in indoor?
Did she choose the NAIA school to transfer because the former school coach told her she was not eligible at an NCAA school if she transferred?
etc., etc., etc.,
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Post by dorothymantooth on Oct 7, 2015 11:48:11 GMT -5
Isn't there a "legaltalk" site for this stuff? These arent volleyball issues, they are legal ones.
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Post by Not Me on Oct 7, 2015 11:55:29 GMT -5
Who is the coach? Please name. Well, given that most of the OP's previous posts are about UC Riverside.....
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Post by Volleyballdad on Oct 7, 2015 11:58:40 GMT -5
She was on a scholarship at a D1 University on the indoor team prior to leaving to play at Cypress Community College. She was on the indoor team and the coach asked her to play outdoor to make sure she stayed in shape while she was talking to other schools on her behalf. She chose the NAIA school, because the other D2 schools could no longer wait for her to become eligible and one of her friends transferred from Cerritos CC to the NAIA school and asked her to come with her. The head coach at Cypress told the other coaches she was not eligible and she was not interested. Her current coach told me that directly at her last game, I also spoke with another coach who stated the same comments.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Oct 7, 2015 12:01:31 GMT -5
It might be best to just look forward and move on. The hassle of a legal action will probably be an unwelcome distraction for your DD who seems to have found a good situation for the future (luckily!). Just let your former club coach and other club contacts know, so they warn their student athletes, coaches who do $hitty things won't be able to hide it for long.
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Post by redbeard2008 on Oct 7, 2015 13:10:23 GMT -5
I don't know about anyone else, but I'm royally confused. Is it the D1 or CC coach you are accusing of being corrupt?
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Post by dorothymantooth on Oct 7, 2015 13:19:55 GMT -5
I don't know about anyone else, but I'm royally confused. Is it the D1 or CC coach you are accusing of being corrupt?
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Post by sevb on Oct 7, 2015 14:54:06 GMT -5
Im pretty sure that a SA can be ineligble in the NCAA and very eligble in the NAIA... so wouldn't this not be a lie on the coaches part?
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Post by DaDawgFather on Oct 7, 2015 15:11:25 GMT -5
I don't know about anyone else, but I'm royally confused. Is it the D1 or CC coach you are accusing of being corrupt? I can't follow this either.
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Post by gigibear on Oct 7, 2015 15:39:18 GMT -5
This is my interpretation....
It does not seem it's the Riverside coach but rather the community college coach who shoo'ed away other interested coaches. It seems to me the NAIA coach confirmed same about cc coach. Riverside coach had SA do training outside I guess to improve her skills while the Riverside coach talk to other universities on the SA's behalf, because perhaps Riverside was going to cut her from their program.
The current new coach, the NAIA coach, is the one that confirms the previous coach's (community college) bad actions of telling other coaches, the D2 coaches or whoever the Riverside coach was reaching out to on behalf of SA.
The Riverside coaches are fairly new to the program, this being their 3rd year. The came from San Francisco State, a D2 program, after building it up to be a winning program. Coming to Riverside, the kept many of the team, then started to rebuild last year.
One of the setters was cut from Riverside due to grades. It would seem logical to transfer to a community college for academic help, but I'm just surmissing based on other information I'm aware of.
But.....if I were OP I would do as c4andlight suggested and move on. Tell local club coaches of the shenanigans. Great clubs in the area are Mizuno, Tstreet...not sure where OP's daughter clubbed at but these clubs are very serious about where their girls go to college, and not that Cypress is a bad program, sleazy coaches seem to travel to the next gig cause they haven't cleaned up their act. I would also find out about this coach's history, and perhaps have a chat with community college AD to share concerns they should become aware of. If community coach wants to cry slander, then let the legal games begin....
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Post by redbeard2008 on Oct 7, 2015 16:01:07 GMT -5
Can you transfer from a D1 program to a CC program to play fall indoor and then transfer back to a D1 or even to a D2 program in the spring to play first sand and then indoor in the fall? I'd be surprised if this was the case.
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Post by gigibear on Oct 7, 2015 16:27:39 GMT -5
This is my interpretation.... It does not seem it's the Riverside coach but rather the community college coach who shoo'ed away other interested coaches. It seems to me the NAIA coach confirmed same about cc coach. Riverside coach had SA do training outside I guess to improve her skills while the Riverside coach talk to other universities on the SA's behalf, because perhaps Riverside was going to cut her from their program. The current new coach, the NAIA coach, is the one that confirms the previous coach's (community college) bad actions of telling other coaches, the D2 coaches or whoever the Riverside coach was reaching out to on behalf of SA. The Riverside coaches are fairly new to the program, this being their 3rd year. The came from San Francisco State, a D2 program, after building it up to be a winning program. Coming to Riverside, the kept many of the team, then started to rebuild last year. One of the setters was cut from Riverside due to grades. It would seem logical to transfer to a community college for academic help, but I'm just surmissing based on other information I'm aware of. But.....if I were OP I would do as c4andlight suggested and move on. Tell local club coaches of the shenanigans. Great clubs in the area are Mizuno, Tstreet...not sure where OP's daughter clubbed at but these clubs are very serious about where their girls go to college, and not that Cypress is a bad program, sleazy coaches seem to travel to the next gig cause they haven't cleaned up their act. I would also find out about this coach's history, and perhaps have a chat with community college AD to share concerns they should become aware of. If community coach wants to cry slander, then let the legal games begin.... You make no sense. Please in simple English name coach doing the bad things. Real simple.
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