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Post by wetokole on Oct 6, 2004 19:29:36 GMT -5
Can someone please explain how good blocking leads to good passing? Last time I checked, a team blocks when it is serving, and passes when the other team is serving. Thus, blocking and passing occur in different phases of the game (free-ball or dig-transition, excepted). On an unrelated note, SoBB's volleyball formula of the day: SLIDE = CHICK PLAYWhat do you call it when you "dig" an opponents shot? Is it not loosely considered a pass as well? Isn't the object to "pass" it to the setter from the dig? Why be so technical in all of your parlay?
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Post by sonofbarcelonabob on Oct 6, 2004 19:47:13 GMT -5
What do you call it when you "dig" an opponents shot? Is it not loosely considered a pass as well? Isn't the object to "pass" it to the setter from the dig? Why be so technical in all of your parlay? Answers in sequence: 1. A dig. 2. No. 3. Not really, dig-transition game is usually based on the assumption that the first contact will not be as good as it is during serve-receive. 4. Because inaccurate assumptions breed inaccurate assumptions.
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Post by vbfan4life on Oct 6, 2004 20:16:19 GMT -5
Can someone please explain how good blocking leads to good passing? Last time I checked, a team blocks when it is serving, and passes when the other team is serving. Thus, blocking and passing occur in different phases of the game (free-ball or dig-transition, excepted). On an unrelated note, SoBB's volleyball formula of the day: SLIDE = CHICK PLAYIf I am not mistaken, I think the Italian Men's VB team a while back was using the slide and were extremely effective since men's VB is not accustomed to it and for the most part do not know how to defend it. I could be wrong.
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Post by sonofbarcelonabob on Oct 6, 2004 20:26:51 GMT -5
If I am not mistaken, I think the Italian Men's VB team a while back was using the slide and were extremely effective since men's VB is not accustomed to it and for the most part do not know how to defend it. I could be wrong. Brad Keenan from Pepperdine ran the slide alot a few years ago. Did it very well, too. However, it didn't stop all the blockers from all the opposing teams from yelling out "I'll block the chick play." LOL. I've watched some of Italy's matches, not a lot. I've never seen a slide play. Who ran it?
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Post by gstring on Oct 6, 2004 23:15:38 GMT -5
you know a slide looks much like a basketball layup...nothing girly there...its just odd to see men do it cause its so rarely seen...that haven been said it is deemed feminine. But if it works so be it...i actually find a guys slide to bring a little flair to the game...which gives some justice to the stero type that guys that play volleyball are either feminine or gay...
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Post by HwnStunner01 on Oct 7, 2004 3:44:15 GMT -5
I don't understand how people can not see how WELL Prince is doing. She is averaging over 3.00 kills, hitting over .370, leading the team in aces, and ALSO blocking at 1.41 a game. TO say she is just "decent" is to say the least. She may not be the most imposing at 6'0, but she moves extremly well, goes straight up, and then presses. She is not been a liability as an attacker or blocker at all.
I also don't understand how people can say the right and middle positions are not being utilized enough. Prince and Hittle SCORCHED Fresno and Nevada and the set distribution was EVEN. That's exactly what we want right? I mean it's funny because as of right now, FOUR Wahine are averaging aroudn 3.00 kills per game. Get this, NO WAHINE has averaged around 3.00 kills since 2000!!!
Boogaard, Arnott, and Watanabe had a rough road trip. But it happens. They honestly shouldn't lose their spot because of a couple bad games. They have been consistent all year long. I sure hope they do up their game though. Boogaard and Arnott can't be hitting around .200. The percentages from the two need to be atleast .250-.260 for the Wahine to do well.
HITTLE needs to be in there and PEOPLE she CAN pass. The four passers for Hawaii are Boogaard, Watanabe, and Hittle/Fotu. Arnott doesn't pass so Hittle being in there is even more important.
Sorry, just random thoughts
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Post by StuffU on Oct 7, 2004 11:33:52 GMT -5
I don't understand how people can not see how WELL Prince is doing. She is averaging over 3.00 kills, hitting over .370, leading the team in aces, and ALSO blocking at 1.41 a game. TO say she is just "decent" is to say the least. She may not be the most imposing at 6'0, but she moves extremly well, goes straight up, and then presses. She is not been a liability as an attacker or blocker at all. I also don't understand how people can say the right and middle positions are not being utilized enough. Prince and Hittle SCORCHED Fresno and Nevada and the set distribution was EVEN. That's exactly what we want right? I mean it's funny because as of right now, FOUR Wahine are averaging aroudn 3.00 kills per game. Get this, NO WAHINE has averaged around 3.00 kills since 2000!!! Boogaard, Arnott, and Watanabe had a rough road trip. But it happens. They honestly shouldn't lose their spot because of a couple bad games. They have been consistent all year long. I sure hope they do up their game though. Boogaard and Arnott can't be hitting around .200. The percentages from the two need to be atleast .250-.260 for the Wahine to do well. HITTLE needs to be in there and PEOPLE she CAN pass. The four passers for Hawaii are Boogaard, Watanabe, and Hittle/Fotu. Arnott doesn't pass so Hittle being in there is even more important. Sorry, just random thoughts yahoo! Someone I can agree with!
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Post by HwnStunner01 on Oct 7, 2004 14:18:03 GMT -5
LOL
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Post by IdahoBoy on Oct 7, 2004 19:31:29 GMT -5
I also don't understand how people can say the right and middle positions are not being utilized enough. Prince and Hittle SCORCHED Fresno and Nevada and the set distribution was EVEN. That's exactly what we want right? I mean it's funny because as of right now, FOUR Wahine are averaging aroudn 3.00 kills per game. Get this, NO WAHINE has averaged around 3.00 kills since 2000!!! I don't get this statement... no Wahine have averaged around 3 kpg since 2000? Please tell me the significance of this supporting your statement.
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Post by EP on Oct 7, 2004 21:32:25 GMT -5
yeah i agree, kanoe is spreading it out pretty well, at the fresno match, boogard, hittle, and prince all had 30+ attempts and arnott with well over 40. and against nevada susie had the high attempt numbers with over 40, and arnott, hittle, and prince had attempt numbers in the 30+ range as well, even sanders had 20 something attempts in that match, added you have to think that shanks and if kanoe makes a dig those balls are going to the left. all in all im pretty amazed how hawaii has played this year, and to think theyll be better next year!!!
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Post by wang pu on Oct 7, 2004 22:03:55 GMT -5
I don't get this statement... no Wahine have averaged around 3 kpg since 2000? Please tell me the significance of this supporting your statement. I think he meant any Wahine not named Kim or Lily.
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Post by 808 on Oct 7, 2004 22:29:03 GMT -5
I think he meant any Wahine not named Kim or Lily. LOL. I think Kim and Lily each averaged well over 3.00 kills per game their last two years. Or maybe he meant that the Wahine haven't had that many players on the same team in the same year averaging at least 3.00 kpg. Does anyone know when the last time was that UH had four players averaging around 3.00 kpg in the same year?
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Post by HwnStunner01 on Oct 8, 2004 0:43:02 GMT -5
Sorry guys. ;D
Obviously my grammer is not too good. But by that, I meant that the Wahine offense is as spread out as it has ever been.
AS of now, four Wahine are averaging between 3.00 to 3.90 kills per game. If you think about it, no Wahine has even averaged 3.00 kills since the 2000 season. In 2001, 2002, and 2003 The Wahine have gotten 6.00 or 7.00 kills from Kim and Lily and the rest of the Wahine only averaged 1.00 to 2.50 kills.
I'm just trying to show how diversified the Wahine offense is this year, compared to all the others.
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Post by 808 on Oct 8, 2004 3:31:51 GMT -5
Sorry guys. ;D Obviously my grammer is not too good. But by that, I meant that the Wahine offense is as spread out as it has ever been. AS of now, four Wahine are averaging between 3.00 to 3.90 kills per game. If you think about it, no Wahine has even averaged 3.00 kills since the 2000 season. In 2001, 2002, and 2003 The Wahine have gotten 6.00 or 7.00 kills from Kim and Lily and the rest of the Wahine only averaged 1.00 to 2.50 kills. I'm just trying to show how diversified the Wahine offense is this year, compared to all the others. No worries. We figured out what you meant.
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Post by IdahoBoy on Oct 8, 2004 14:30:17 GMT -5
Thanks Hawaiian Stun man. Looking back, I don't think any Hawaii team has ever had 2 of the top 3 kill performers playing concurrently, and 3-1000 kill performers (Willoughby, Kahumoku, Gustin). Didn't Lauren average 3+ kills as an AA?
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