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Post by 808 on Oct 6, 2004 11:13:56 GMT -5
Rainbow Wahine unbeaten, unsettledAdvertiser Staff Even on the 12-0, fourth-ranked University of Hawai'i women's volleyball team the lineup is not "set in stone," head coach Dave Shoji said, promising a reevaluation of the starters yesterday. The Rainbow Wahine beat Fresno State in four games Thursday and then rallied from a 2-1 deficit to defeat Nevada in five games Saturday on the just-completed road trip, performances that have Shoji reexamining his lineup for this week. "We're going to look at the lineup once again; nothing is set in stone," Shoji said as the Rainbow Wahine returned to practice for this week's Western Athletic Conference matches with Boise State on Friday and Texas-El Paso on Sunday at the Stan Sheriff Center. "Based on our performances at Fresno and Nevada, I don't think we played our best volleyball," Shoji said. "At this point in the season we've got to keep improving. Everybody needs to be on notice that that's not acceptable and they need to keep pushing." Shoji did not mention any player by name, but said the team needs more production at left-side hitter, middle blocker and libero. The current starters are left-side hitters Alicia Arnott and Susie Boogaard, setter Kanoe Kamana'o, middles Victoria Prince and Juliana Sanders, right-side hitter Tara Hittle and libero Ashley Watanabe. Boogaard yesterday said news of possible lineup changes concerned her, and made her want to work harder. The junior leads the team in kills (191) and kills per game (3.90). "I obviously don't want to lose the outside position, because I'm having a great time playing that," Boogaard said. "I just have to work hard and prove myself back. Everyone is going to play great wherever they get put. As long as our team is performing, that's what I care about." On Saturday, Shoji replaced Watanabe, who has started all 12 matches at libero this season, with Teisa Fotu during the Nevada match. the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2004/Oct/06/sp/sp02p.htmlHmm, interesting. I wonder if there really will be any lineup changes or if the current starters will be able to step up their games to hold onto their spots.
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Post by Aikea on Oct 6, 2004 12:17:14 GMT -5
Interesting article. It sounds like Dave is trying to scare his players a bit. But, hopefully it will be a good thing. Usually people perform better knowing they may have someone breathing down their neck.
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Post by wang pu on Oct 6, 2004 22:24:20 GMT -5
How about a guess at the potential new lineup:
S - Kamanao OH - Hittle OH - Arnott/Boogard MB - Prince MB - Gregory RS - Thurlby L - Fotu
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Post by 808 on Oct 6, 2004 22:26:04 GMT -5
If it makes them all work harder, I'm all for his comments. In actuality, though, I don't think he really has a lot of options, as was discussed in some other threads on this board. There are a lot of middles so changes could be made there, but as far as the left side or libero goes, I don't see any big changes on the horizon.
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Post by ACE on Oct 6, 2004 23:22:14 GMT -5
How about a guess at the potential new lineup: S - Kamanao OH - Hittle OH - Arnott/Boogard MB - Prince MB - Gregory RS - Thurlby L - Fotu I've never considered Thurlby at RS. But, I do recall she playing that positions during exhibitions. If she can put down the ball, I'd say, use her and put hittle in an OH position...I mean Boogard/Arnott barely hitting 200, one isn't even at 200. Not good, not good.
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Oct 7, 2004 2:43:50 GMT -5
How about a guess at the potential new lineup: S - Kamanao OH - Hittle OH - Arnott/Boogard MB - Prince MB - Gregory RS - Thurlby L - Fotu Here's my prediction, just based on the way things are and not by who I think should play where. S-Kamana'o OH- Boogard OH- Arnott MB- Prince MB- Sanders/Gregory. Although I don't think Melody Eckmier has recieved a fair shake for the simple reason that after her injury earlier in the season, she hasn't had very many plays. Opp- Hittle L -Watanabe As far as the outsides go, If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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Post by gstring on Oct 7, 2004 3:14:57 GMT -5
eckmire just doenst have the mobility...i think her blocking is good only if she doesnt have to move...her lateral movement is too slow...her footwork is non exsistant...she does well however against lower tiered teams like eastern washington..
i like gregory...she reminds me of a sarah magee from standord...but agree with shoji's choice of sanders and use gregory as the next option.
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Post by HwnStunner01 on Oct 7, 2004 3:58:27 GMT -5
I agree with Barefoot that if it ain't broke don't fix it. However, as a coach you must constantly evaluate the performaces and see if there need to be changes or atleast adjustments to the lineup/rotation.
I would say Kamana'o, Prince, and Hittle are safe as of now. Boogaard, Arnott, and Watanabe had a rough road trip but I'd say they also are the best three for their postitions. They just need to bring their game back up because they have been consistent all season long.
As far as changes go, I always wondered what would happen if Hittle moved to the left. She really has braught attention to the right side. We haven't had this kind of offense from the right since Kim Willoughby her freshman year and we all know what she did to teams when she moved to the left...
I also feel like Sanders hasn't done anything to move her ahead of Gregory. I mean Sanders is bringing the offense but as others have stated, she needs to block a little better. She's only at 0.48 BPG. Gregory as a starter was averaging 1.70 BPG. Her average has gone down though since she has become a situational sub.
I know Gregory lost her spot because Hawaii needed more offense from the Middle2, but Gregory was doing OK IMO and her blocking presence scored Hawaii a couple points too.
Oh well, time will tell!
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Post by Noname on Oct 7, 2004 4:17:56 GMT -5
I would say Kamana'o, Prince, and Hittle are safe as of now. Boogaard, Arnott, and Watanabe had a rough road trip but I'd say they also are the best three for their postitions. They just need to bring their game back up because they have been consistent all season long. As far as changes go, I always wondered what would happen if Hittle moved to the left. She really has braught attention to the right side. We haven't had this kind of offense from the right since Kim Willoughby her freshman year and we all know what she did to teams when she moved to the left... I also feel like Sanders hasn't done anything to move her ahead of Gregory. I mean Sanders is bringing the offense but as others have stated, she needs to block a little better. She's only at 0.48 BPG. Gregory as a starter was averaging 1.70 BPG. Her average has gone down though since she has become a situational sub. I know Gregory lost her spot because Hawaii needed more offense from the Middle2, but Gregory was doing OK IMO and her blocking presence scored Hawaii a couple points too. Yeah, what he said!
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Post by kolohekeiki on Oct 7, 2004 5:05:34 GMT -5
I agree with Barefoot that if it ain't broke don't fix it. However, as a coach you must constantly evaluate the performaces and see if there need to be changes or atleast adjustments to the lineup/rotation. I would say Kamana'o, Prince, and Hittle are safe as of now. Boogaard, Arnott, and Watanabe had a rough road trip but I'd say they also are the best three for their postitions. They just need to bring their game back up because they have been consistent all season long. As far as changes go, I always wondered what would happen if Hittle moved to the left. She really has braught attention to the right side. We haven't had this kind of offense from the right since Kim Willoughby her freshman year and we all know what she did to teams when she moved to the left... I also feel like Sanders hasn't done anything to move her ahead of Gregory. I mean Sanders is bringing the offense but as others have stated, she needs to block a little better. She's only at 0.48 BPG. Gregory as a starter was averaging 1.70 BPG. Her average has gone down though since she has become a situational sub. I know Gregory lost her spot because Hawaii needed more offense from the Middle2, but Gregory was doing OK IMO and her blocking presence scored Hawaii a couple points too. Oh well, time will tell! I pretty much agree with everything you've said here except the part about Arnott and Boogaard. You stated that they have been consistent all season long, I disagree with that. Arnott and Boogaard has shown signs of brilliance at times and also showed times of struggling. They haven't been consistent through the whole season thus far. The only consistent players that I've seen so far are as you mentioned Tara Hittle, Kanoe Kamana`o and Victoria Prince. The rest has been up and down this season. Oh and Kari Gregory has been consistent as well so I also don't agree with her losing her starting job.
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Post by HawaiiVB on Oct 7, 2004 5:43:16 GMT -5
I have been to all the home games and from what Ive seen, Kano'e 's sets are not always at the right height, speed, area, spot..etc. for her hitters. Its not a few times, but a lot of times. her set location is awful. With Boogard, her sets are too low. for Gregory the same thing and with victoria her step outs are way out. Arnott's apporach a lot of times is to slow. This happens mreo when Kano'e 's sets are inside the block. Her sets are always tight to the net and she doens't always get it out to the pins. For the lefts to really be successful kano'e needs to have better control of her sets. As with all lefts, most teams will double block you all the time. Hitting around .250 is a good percentage. Gregory needs higher sets.
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Post by StuffU on Oct 7, 2004 11:29:26 GMT -5
low tight sets to the outside is part of the plan with this style of offense. Beat the block, hit the seam, straight down. thats what makes it high risk, the ability of the other team to stuff the ball if the read the set. moving the set inside and out also gives the hitter more seams.
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Post by HawaiiVB on Oct 7, 2004 11:35:42 GMT -5
well whatever there plan is cool. But it aint working much. Now they go back to the outside left, since the passing sucks. I'm just saying that A factor aside from ahitter's skills, is the sets from a setter. Kano'e maybe an awesome setter to most, so for me, an awesome setter should have inconsistences with location. It should like a broken record, same location with all her various sets. She knows her sets arent always connecting you can see her reaction. So forpeople to just say this hitter is not producing, its a fallacy, in so much that without a decent set, very few hitters can produce.
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Post by wang pu on Oct 7, 2004 12:17:56 GMT -5
low tight sets to the outside is part of the plan with this style of offense. Beat the block, hit the seam, straight down. thats what makes it high risk, the ability of the other team to stuff the ball if the read the set. moving the set inside and out also gives the hitter more seams. is their plan low sets, or fast sets? because a set can be a little higher, but quicker.
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Post by HwnStunner01 on Oct 7, 2004 14:30:17 GMT -5
Thanks guys
As far as Kamana'o sets, she has a lot of pressure on her to run a fast offense and do whatever possible to isolate her hitters.
It's almost a given that her sets may not be consistent 100% of the time because of what offense is running. This is an offense where risks are taken.
Yes, there are times where Kamana'o hasn't connected well with her hitters, but I would so she's connected with them more than she hasn't.
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