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Post by mplssetter on Nov 26, 2015 3:31:13 GMT -5
In both losses to UW and UCLA, USC had only one hitter other than Bricio make a significant contribution: Abercrombie (11 kills) against UW and Ogoms (11 kills) against UCLA. Ford hit negative in both (-.333 and -.154). Ruddins with 7 kills and Johnson with 5 kills overall in both matches. The Trojans need contributions from at least two other players than Bricio: Abercrombie and Ogoms. If they don't, they're vulnerable. Minnesota has the same problem and they got taken to 5 sets by Ohio State, if they weren't playing at home in front of a record crowd, they probably would've lost. I disagree. The 3 sets MN won were not that close (-17, -15, -9). You make it sound like they if it weren't for the crowd they would have lost. I do agree that Santana is relyied on too heavily. The diffrence for MN is that even though Santana only had 17 kills, Hannah Tapp had 20 kills, hitting .500 and Wilhite also had 20 kills, hitting .298.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2015 3:41:37 GMT -5
Minnesota has the same problem and they got taken to 5 sets by Ohio State, if they weren't playing at home in front of a record crowd, they probably would've lost. I disagree. The 3 sets MN won were not that close (-17, -15, -9). You make it sound like they if it weren't for the crowd they would have lost. I do agree that Santana is relyied on too heavily. The diffrence for MN is that even though Santana only had 17 kills, Hannah Tapp had 20 kills, hitting .500 and Wilhite also had 20 kills, hitting .298. H. Tapp carried the team along with Wilhite, but I have a feeling that Wilhite is affected by the crowd (she's inconsistent) more than Tapp or Santana. So, I will stick by my comment. If it's only H. Tapp playing well on a neutral court, would they still win? A question we will only find out in the next couple weeks.
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Post by scottysocc on Nov 26, 2015 3:46:32 GMT -5
If they get to a regional final Bricio is POY. If Washington were to beat USC in the regional final at San Diego, I think Sybeldon could have a chance at NPOY. It's possible, but it would be an injustice. Sybeldon is good, but isn't on Bricio's level. In my opinion this year there are two international, olympic caliber players: Bricio and Carlini. Maybe Washington too, but she's still rough around the edges. Typically the POY is also the star of their team. Think Hancock on Penn State, Vansant on Washington, ect. Washington doesn't really have one major star this year. The whole team is strong and balanced. This is a good thing, but I don't know if it bodes well for a Washington NPOY.
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Post by tomclen on Nov 26, 2015 3:49:30 GMT -5
6,346. Largest attendance of any Pac-12 conference match anywhere this season.
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Post by redbeard2008 on Nov 26, 2015 3:52:34 GMT -5
Key moment of the game...Set 5, UCLA is up 12-11, but Bricio is serving for USC with a great chance for a possible sequence of points. However the ball is set to Ford who muffs it and the point goes to UCLA. Sealy jumps up and down, pumping his fist. I think he knew the match was won right there, when Bricio's serve was broken. USC's freshmen did struggle. Sitting near the benches, I noticed Johnson had moments when she was very frustrated. I wonder if the freshmen were a little psyched out by their own huge crowd and atmosphere, having over three times the attendance they have had for any other home game this season. Wasn't there a big crowd in Washington where Ford also struggled? That is something they need to overcome, if that is an issue. Remember, UCLA played a match at Hawaii in front of a huge crowd and freshman Muno was the setter that night. Agree on the turning point - the difference between 13-11 and 12-12 in the Fifth is huge. I also thought that Haley losing his cool on the Johnson call in the Third hurt his team, which fell apart. There were almost 5,000 in Seattle. Ford had ZERO kills, hit -.333. UW targeted her in serve-receive. Johnson had 3 kills. How many in attendance tonight were UCLA fans?
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Post by bigdfromla on Nov 26, 2015 3:55:03 GMT -5
It also would have been 12-12 with Bricio still serving. You are also right about Mick in the third.
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Post by mplssetter on Nov 26, 2015 3:55:17 GMT -5
I disagree. The 3 sets MN won were not that close (-17, -15, -9). You make it sound like they if it weren't for the crowd they would have lost. I do agree that Santana is relyied on too heavily. The diffrence for MN is that even though Santana only had 17 kills, Hannah Tapp had 20 kills, hitting .500 and Wilhite also had 20 kills, hitting .298. H. Tapp carried the team along with Wilhite, but I have a feeling that Wilhite is affected by the crowd (she's inconsistent) more than Tapp or Santana. So, I will stick by my comment. If it's only H. Tapp playing well on a neutral court, would they still win? A question we will only find out in the next couple weeks. Fair enough.
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Post by tomclen on Nov 26, 2015 4:01:08 GMT -5
Why in the wide wide world of sports was this game not on main Pac-12 network?
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Post by redbeard2008 on Nov 26, 2015 4:12:52 GMT -5
It's possible, but it would be an injustice. Sybeldon is good, but isn't on Bricio's level. In my opinion this year there are two international, olympic caliber players: Bricio and Carlini. Maybe Washington too, but she's still rough around the edges. Typically the POY is also the star of their team. Think Hancock on Penn State, Vansant on Washington, ect. Washington doesn't really have one major star this year. The whole team is strong and balanced. This is a good thing, but I don't know if it bodes well for a Washington NPOY. Sybeldon is UW's "star". She's leading the nation in hitting percentage by 24 points and is leading the Pac-12 in blocks/set (conference-only). It would not be an injustice. I do agree that Bricio is the clear favorite, but if USC fails to make it to the Final Four, it won't be so certain.
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Post by volleyfan24 on Nov 26, 2015 5:06:37 GMT -5
This match tells me what we knew all season, its wide open and anyone's title to take. If Ford doesn't get it together and Bricio doesn't see much help it will be tough for USC to win. Congrats to UCLA but their prize is getting a good Stanford team to close out the season so the work isn't done yet.
I think the tweet by UCLA was in poor taste. Maybe if UCLA would have done better overall in conference which clearly they showed tonight they have the talent to do they wouldn't be worried about offering help to any other team than themselves and putting their team in position to win the conference title.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2015 5:22:50 GMT -5
It's possible, but it would be an injustice. Sybeldon is good, but isn't on Bricio's level. In my opinion this year there are two international, olympic caliber players: Bricio and Carlini. Maybe Washington too, but she's still rough around the edges. Typically the POY is also the star of their team. Think Hancock on Penn State, Vansant on Washington, ect. Washington doesn't really have one major star this year. The whole team is strong and balanced. This is a good thing, but I don't know if it bodes well for a Washington NPOY. Sybeldon is UW's "star". She's leading the nation in hitting percentage by 24 points and is leading the Pac-12 in blocks/set (conference-only). It would not be an injustice. I do agree that Bricio is the clear favorite, but if USC fails to make it to the Final Four, it won't be so certain. You mean 2.4 "basis" points, if what you want to say is .024%. What is her blocks/set average?
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Post by BeiBei on Nov 26, 2015 5:32:36 GMT -5
This is the third straight year UCLA WVB had done better at Galen than at Pauley Pavilion
2013 lost at USC 3-1, lost at home 3-0 (worst loss to USC in the rally scoring era) 2014 beat USC 3-0 at Galen and 3-2 at Pauley 2015 lost at home 3-0 but won 3-2 at Galen
A big shout out to Muno. IT is asking so much of her to play a new position as a freshman. I am one of those who is not convinced she can make that transition. She had some rough moments but she is doing the best she can. While I think Miller will likely win the job next year, Muno can still contribute with her ridiculous defense although it will not surprise me if she chose to focus on beach only.
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Post by scottysocc on Nov 26, 2015 6:45:41 GMT -5
It's possible, but it would be an injustice. Sybeldon is good, but isn't on Bricio's level. In my opinion this year there are two international, olympic caliber players: Bricio and Carlini. Maybe Washington too, but she's still rough around the edges. Typically the POY is also the star of their team. Think Hancock on Penn State, Vansant on Washington, ect. Washington doesn't really have one major star this year. The whole team is strong and balanced. This is a good thing, but I don't know if it bodes well for a Washington NPOY. Sybeldon is UW's "star". She's leading the nation in hitting percentage by 24 points and is leading the Pac-12 in blocks/set (conference-only). It would not be an injustice. I do agree that Bricio is the clear favorite, but if USC fails to make it to the Final Four, it won't be so certain. IF UW has a star I'd agree Sybeldon is the closest thing to it and she has been impressive. But surely you'd agree she doesn't have the national hype and wow-factor around her that most star-players like Vansant, Bricio, Carlini or Hancock have or had. That's not to take anything away from her, because she does have the numbers to be in the conversation. But from history I think the AVCA voters tend to pick players that have generated the most national attention. I can accept though that she is in the mix along with Bricio, Carlini, and Santana. As for chances I'd say it looks something like Bricio>Carlini>Sybeldon = Santana I still think so long as USC makes a regional and so long as Bricio plays well up until that point, she will get the nod, regardless of how the other candidates' teams do. It might be closer, I accept, if USC gets knocked out at a regional and Santana/Sybeldon/Carlini make the championship match. If, however, USC does get to the final 4 and Bricio doesn't get it that would definitely be an injustice. Personally I think how far a team advances into the final should have little influence on the NPOY. The NPOY, I think, should be the best player in the country that year, regardless of how the team does. On that basis, I think few would disagree it's Bricio.
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Post by gobruins on Nov 26, 2015 10:16:48 GMT -5
Someone must have slipped some testosterone in Sealy's coffee because he was possessed tonight. I have never seen him that excited and animated before, though the rotten refereeing was partly responsible. One of the funniest moments of the match was when the UCLA bench got a yellow card. Sealy stood over Tony Ker and, with a big smile, pointed at him to make sure everyone knew he was the one who got the card.
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Post by Pirate VB Fan on Nov 26, 2015 10:43:32 GMT -5
If I remember the PAC-12 tie-breaker properly, assuming both USC and UW win their final match, USC and UW would be "Co-Champions" but UW gets the automatic qualifier 4-3 on head-to-head since UW swept USC 3-0 at home but took a game, so 1-3, in LA.
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