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Post by surfh2ovolleyjock on Apr 27, 2016 1:28:55 GMT -5
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Post by bigdfromla on Apr 27, 2016 1:58:01 GMT -5
What a horribly weak non-conference schedule. They were rotten last year, so they will play nothing but stiffs this year and try to get some wins, then probably finish last again in conference. One of these schools that claims to be rebuilding, and five years from now they will be exactly where they are right now, chasing the hamster wheel.
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Post by roy on Apr 27, 2016 2:00:42 GMT -5
Kind of an interesting schedule for Fullerton. Complete opposite of last year. Not a strong schedule, but a smart schedule for RPI for the conference. No stand out teams but a lot of winnable matches to build upon. I think they're also going to be young, so this might be a year to get their players some confidence.
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Post by jake on Apr 28, 2016 21:05:04 GMT -5
Very sensible,...need a bunch of "w".
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Post by thebeach1 on Apr 28, 2016 21:57:08 GMT -5
I hope Cal State Fullerton does well and wins most of these cupcake, OCC matches. Another dismal, winless season will only hurt the Big West and drag down the conference's, and individual school's, RPI. The Big West should be greatly improved this year and I could see the conference receiving two at large selections to the NCAA's.
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Post by tommyboy on Apr 28, 2016 23:07:07 GMT -5
Fullerton will win double digits this year and that will help the conference.
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Apr 29, 2016 18:16:09 GMT -5
What a horribly weak non-conference schedule. They were rotten last year, so they will play nothing but stiffs this year and try to get some wins, then probably finish last again in conference. One of these schools that claims to be rebuilding, and five years from now they will be exactly where they are right now, chasing the hamster wheel. what exactly is the coach supposed to do? they aren't going to vie for a NCAA big, nor the conference title might as well try to get some confidence and get a team to play with some rhythm versus getting overwhelmed early in the season god help the Big West RPI if they can't have a winning non-conference record vs. this slate
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Post by hammer on Apr 29, 2016 19:07:14 GMT -5
What a horribly weak non-conference schedule. They were rotten last year, so they will play nothing but stiffs this year and try to get some wins, then probably finish last again in conference. One of these schools that claims to be rebuilding, and five years from now they will be exactly where they are right now, chasing the hamster wheel. Hopefully they can stay on the hamster wheel against this backdrop of pathetic opponents. Sure they will get pounded in conference, but maybe they break 10 wins for the season.
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Post by Mocha on Apr 29, 2016 19:46:21 GMT -5
Most of the teams in the preseason schedule finished last or next-to-last in their leagues (and we are not even talking powerhouse conferences).
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Post by Mocha on Apr 29, 2016 19:52:06 GMT -5
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Post by utoolity on Apr 29, 2016 21:16:03 GMT -5
Bottom dwellers v bottom dwellers. Sounds like good scheduling
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Post by bigdfromla on Apr 30, 2016 0:54:50 GMT -5
This schedule will guarantee them a low RPI, even if they win. That is not good for the conference.
Long Beach State got screwed last year because of the mediocrity of the Big West and its RPI woes. Just 2-3 years ago, Cal State Fullerton was a solid, if unspectacular program. They then lose their coach, replace her with a novice and it seems the athletic department is in complete surrender with its volleyball program, content to wallow in mediocrity and perpetual "rebuilding", as long as costs aren't too prohibitive. Put together a weak-ass non-conference schedule so the record, at first-glance, doesn't look so bad. This will allow them to carry on this charade in peace.
This is crap for the conference...especially for Hawaii and Long Beach State, who have ambitions to compete for a national title, but get penalized by getting "stuck in the Big West" and it's weak RPI's. The news gets worse. Cal State Northridge, who was so good two years ago, had a major decline last year. Are they headed for a similar direction as Fullerton? U.C. Riverside has been the poster child for ineptitude for years. Give them huge props for improving last year. I hope they keep rising, but do they have the resources to keep going? Santa Barbara had a horrible season last year, though they should be better next year. Davis also declined. I like where Cal Poly is going, but can they keep it up? Irvine is Irvine. They are never really bad, but they seem to always have a ceiling they never rise above. It's bad enough that the Big West schools have to deal with the anti-west coast bias with the NCAA every year...that is enough of a disadvantage. The conference needs all schools to be on board and put together the best programs to compete at the highest level. If they can't hack it, then leave. Join the WAC or head to Division 2.
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Post by trojansc on Apr 30, 2016 12:48:15 GMT -5
This schedule will guarantee them a low RPI, even if they win. That is not good for the conference. Long Beach State got screwed last year because of the mediocrity of the Big West and its RPI woes. Just 2-3 years ago, Cal State Fullerton was a solid, if unspectacular program. They then lose their coach, replace her with a novice and it seems the athletic department is in complete surrender with its volleyball program, content to wallow in mediocrity and perpetual "rebuilding", as long as costs aren't too prohibitive. Put together a weak-ass non-conference schedule so the record, at first-glance, doesn't look so bad. This will allow them to carry on this charade in peace. This is crap for the conference...especially for Hawaii and Long Beach State, who have ambitions to compete for a national title, but get penalized by getting "stuck in the Big West" ? .. Actually, if Fullerton wins all its non-conference games, it will be way way better for Long Beach State and Hawaii's RPI. But for Fullerton, their RPI is going to be bad because their opponents% is so bad. It's better for LBSU and Hawaii to play a 12-0 Fullerton team twice who beat nobody relevant rather than playing a 6-6 Fullerton team who scheduled decently. RPI is complicated. Playing a team with a 173 RPI (22-6 record against cupcakes) may be better than playing a team with 73 RPI (15-15 record against better competition) this example is slightly exaggerated, but helps show the flaws.
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Post by tommyboy on Apr 30, 2016 16:28:30 GMT -5
This schedule will guarantee them a low RPI, even if they win. That is not good for the conference. Long Beach State got screwed last year because of the mediocrity of the Big West and its RPI woes. Just 2-3 years ago, Cal State Fullerton was a solid, if unspectacular program. They then lose their coach, replace her with a novice and it seems the athletic department is in complete surrender with its volleyball program, content to wallow in mediocrity and perpetual "rebuilding", as long as costs aren't too prohibitive. Put together a weak-ass non-conference schedule so the record, at first-glance, doesn't look so bad. This will allow them to carry on this charade in peace. This is crap for the conference...especially for Hawaii and Long Beach State, who have ambitions to compete for a national title, but get penalized by getting "stuck in the Big West" and it's weak RPI's. The news gets worse. Cal State Northridge, who was so good two years ago, had a major decline last year. Are they headed for a similar direction as Fullerton? U.C. Riverside has been the poster child for ineptitude for years. Give them huge props for improving last year. I hope they keep rising, but do they have the resources to keep going? Santa Barbara had a horrible season last year, though they should be better next year. Davis also declined. I like where Cal Poly is going, but can they keep it up? Irvine is Irvine. They are never really bad, but they seem to always have a ceiling they never rise above. It's bad enough that the Big West schools have to deal with the anti-west coast bias with the NCAA every year...that is enough of a disadvantage. The conference needs all schools to be on board and put together the best programs to compete at the highest level. If they can't hack it, then leave. Join the WAC or head to Division 2. As trojan said, this is the best the rest of the conference could ask for. The more wins Fullerton gets the better off for Hawaii's RPI, the biggest component is your opponent's record. All of these teams should be doing everything in their power to play cupcakes if you want the conference powers to have a better RPI.
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Post by onfiya on Apr 30, 2016 16:39:19 GMT -5
And it's the only way they can get better recruits is by winning. If they schedule a tough OOC schedule and get destroyed in conference as well, no recruit is going to want to go there. They can only get better by putting W's on their schedule. If the recruits like Fullerton, they think the the WCC is decent, and the team has a respectable record, then they will want to go there.
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