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Post by c4ndlelight on Aug 9, 2016 22:10:46 GMT -5
Somebody in the Canadian Federation needs a raise. Men's team doing well and Beach showing great.
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Post by volleyfan24 on Aug 9, 2016 23:35:39 GMT -5
Somebody in the Canadian Federation needs a raise. Men's team doing well and Beach showing great. Any update on the match.
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Post by Gilmoy on Aug 9, 2016 23:39:45 GMT -5
Eh, FIVB page shows Brasil -24+18+22+17 Canada. Still got all 3 points in the end.
We'll have to beat Brasil ship-to-ship. Get the swing crews to their fighters.
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Post by wonderwarthog79 on Aug 10, 2016 2:55:00 GMT -5
RIP.
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Post by vampiro on Aug 10, 2016 5:34:32 GMT -5
I just want to say that I'm sick of both Speraw and Kiraly. They are so freaking stubborn. It's like they're too proud to admit their personnel decision isn't working.
Speraw: Russell sucks, no change. Sander sucks, no change. Lee sucks, no change. Priddy subbed in, Priddy sucks, no change.
Kiraly: Murphy sucks, no change. Adams sucks, no change. Hill sucks, no change. Larson sucks, no change.
This is on top of Kiraly picking Thompson to go to Rio, instead of backup libero Hagglund (who was on fire at Grand Prix; and Banwarth has been struggling) or hard hitter Hodge-Easy. And alienating vet players like Tom and Hooker.
To know that we're stuck with these 2 for years is going to drive me nuts. I'd like to see Jamie Morrison and maybe Matt Fuerbringer take over, they have to be an improvement...?
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Post by akbar on Aug 10, 2016 6:16:14 GMT -5
Eh, FIVB page shows Brasil -24+18+22+17 Canada. Still got all 3 points in the end. We'll have to beat Brasil ship-to-ship. Get the swing crews to their fighters. We do not HAVE to beat Brazil necessarily. Imo, the way Canada is feeling it, it will come down to the France match (assuming we beat Mexico) If we squeeze in, the slate is wiped clean for all teams and those with momentum have the edge. The teams surging and playing better at the end of the tourney have an edge......we just have to continue to play better. My hope is that we get in and continue to progressively play better......that is not that far fetched considering how the pool is playin out. The Wednesday Canada/France game is crucial.
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Post by BigTenVball on Aug 10, 2016 6:46:30 GMT -5
I just want to say that I'm sick of both Speraw and Kiraly. They are so freaking stubborn. It's like they're too proud to admit their personnel decision isn't working. Speraw: Russell sucks, no change. Sander sucks, no change. Lee sucks, no change. Priddy subbed in, Priddy sucks, no change. Kiraly: Murphy sucks, no change. Adams sucks, no change. Hill sucks, no change. Larson sucks, no change. This is on top of Kiraly picking Thompson to go to Rio, instead of backup libero Hagglund (who was on fire at Grand Prix; and Banwarth has been struggling) or hard hitter Hodge-Easy. And alienating vet players like Tom and Hooker. To know that we're stuck with these 2 for years is going to drive me nuts. I'd like to see Jamie Morrison and maybe Matt Fuerbringer take over, they have to be an improvement...? I am confused. Men are 0-2 and Women are 2-0, but both coaches suck??
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Post by vampiro on Aug 10, 2016 7:41:53 GMT -5
I just want to say that I'm sick of both Speraw and Kiraly. They are so freaking stubborn. It's like they're too proud to admit their personnel decision isn't working. Speraw: Russell sucks, no change. Sander sucks, no change. Lee sucks, no change. Priddy subbed in, Priddy sucks, no change. Kiraly: Murphy sucks, no change. Adams sucks, no change. Hill sucks, no change. Larson sucks, no change. This is on top of Kiraly picking Thompson to go to Rio, instead of backup libero Hagglund (who was on fire at Grand Prix; and Banwarth has been struggling) or hard hitter Hodge-Easy. And alienating vet players like Tom and Hooker. To know that we're stuck with these 2 for years is going to drive me nuts. I'd like to see Jamie Morrison and maybe Matt Fuerbringer take over, they have to be an improvement...? I am confused. Men are 0-2 and Women are 2-0, but both coaches suck?? Did you watch the World Grand Prix where USA lost yet again to Brazil for gold? Did you watch how USA was on the verge of losing to Netherlands at Rio? If their quest is for gold at Rio, it's been looking rough. They're all still talented and deserve to win IMO, but Kiraly is not the star here, the women are. That's my point.
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Post by BuckysHeat on Aug 10, 2016 7:51:52 GMT -5
Speraw: Russell sucks, no change. Sander sucks, no change. Lee sucks, no change. Priddy subbed in, Priddy sucks, no change. Kiraly: Murphy sucks, no change. Adams sucks, no change. Hill sucks, no change. Larson sucks, no change. This is on top of Kiraly picking Thompson to go to Rio, instead of backup libero Hagglund (who was on fire at Grand Prix; and Banwarth has been struggling) or hard hitter Hodge-Easy. And alienating vet players like Tom and Hooker. Murphy sucks? She is the reason the women pulled it out. Russell sucks? Led the team in kills against Italy, did have some shakiness in other areas to be sure Can see the Hagglund vs Banwarth point but the roster is what it is for a reason. So sick and tired of all the negativity surrounding the national teams, you people should run for politics, you obviously have the right mindset for it
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Post by akbar on Aug 10, 2016 8:10:19 GMT -5
I wonder if people on this board.... :
1. never experienced high level competition as a coach or player.
2. forgot what it was like as a coach or player.
3. fail to realize or appreciate what the athletes are going through on the floor and even as I write this post on their off days. The intense scrutiny that they are getting on social media....win AND/or lose is more that many of us are willing to understand.
Our young players are realizing that every fan of vb and millions of others are watching them play and are emotionally getting sucked in.
It is clear empathy is hard to acknowledge sometimes.
Winning points, let alone games or matches in a tourney/environment like this is so difficult.
Yes, the players and coaches have been briefed on this and told to expect that this comes when you sign up for it.....but when you experience it for the first time.....I can only imagine it is really really overwhelming.
I will share this......
Some of the tweets, instagrams,emails and yes posts on vtalk etc that are lobbed at our 24 athletes and coaches .....are gut wrenching to say the least.
GO USA....I believe.
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Post by stlvb2014 on Aug 10, 2016 8:25:09 GMT -5
While I am certainly not satisfied with the Men's team's performance so far, we cannot look to bash our own guys to get our anger out. At the very least, we should be looking at the high points of our game to try to stay positive in such a tough situation. Russell seems to be the most effective guy right now, which is AMAZING considering how he could not get it going in WL. He has really shown maturity, and while he still makes the occasional bad play, he is still killing it for us. From what I saw, our middles were killing the ball in system, something that we have been doing well for awhile. All our guys have to do is go back to the basics and do what they're best at, and they will start winning. I know this is definitely not the end for our guys; I think they have a strong chance to surprise Brazil. For now, all we can say is GO USA and send positive vibes to Rio.
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Post by gobruins on Aug 10, 2016 8:39:05 GMT -5
I just want to say that I'm sick of both Speraw and Kiraly. They are so freaking stubborn. It's like they're too proud to admit their personnel decision isn't working. Speraw: Russell sucks, no change. Sander sucks, no change. Lee sucks, no change. Priddy subbed in, Priddy sucks, no change. Kiraly: Murphy sucks, no change. Adams sucks, no change. Hill sucks, no change. Larson sucks, no change. This is on top of Kiraly picking Thompson to go to Rio, instead of backup libero Hagglund (who was on fire at Grand Prix; and Banwarth has been struggling) or hard hitter Hodge-Easy. And alienating vet players like Tom and Hooker. To know that we're stuck with these 2 for years is going to drive me nuts. I'd like to see Jamie Morrison and maybe Matt Fuerbringer take over, they have to be an improvement...? Speraw and Kiraly aren't going anywhere. You, on the other hand, are free to find another country to cheer for (and if you are not too busy, could you take Kokyu with you?).
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Post by vampiro on Aug 10, 2016 8:43:42 GMT -5
Good god. Guys, I am NOT bashing the players!!!
I am bashing the 2 coaches, who need to realize that their players have bad days, weaknesses against certain opponents, and then take appropriate actions and teaching. For example, did Speraw do ANYTHING about the horrendous serving for the past month since WL? They also need to make sure their roster is solid (like not picking Thompson as the third setter for god's sake).
I like the players just fine. They're capable of winning as some shown in the past.
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Post by ripitline on Aug 10, 2016 8:49:53 GMT -5
Good god. Guys, I am NOT bashing the players!!! I am bashing the 2 coaches, who need to realize that their players have bad days, weaknesses against certain opponents, and then take appropriate actions and teaching. For example, did Speraw do ANYTHING about the horrendous serving for the past month since WL? They also need to make sure their roster is solid (like not picking Thompson as the third setter for god's sake). I like the players just fine. They're capable of winning as some shown in the past. You said that half of the players suck...bashing?
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Post by vampiro on Aug 10, 2016 9:00:58 GMT -5
Good god. Guys, I am NOT bashing the players!!! I am bashing the 2 coaches, who need to realize that their players have bad days, weaknesses against certain opponents, and then take appropriate actions and teaching. For example, did Speraw do ANYTHING about the horrendous serving for the past month since WL? They also need to make sure their roster is solid (like not picking Thompson as the third setter for god's sake). I like the players just fine. They're capable of winning as some shown in the past. You said that half of the players suck...bashing? Did you miss the part where I said the coach's personnel decision? Or how Priddy was SUBBED in, and didn't help? When I said sucks, it's not in general. I meant in certain moments against certain opponents. Some of them went cold, were making too many mistakes, or just couldn't score/dig/pass. And the coaches didn't make any lineup change or waited too long.
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