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Post by Wolfgang on Feb 12, 2018 14:55:11 GMT -5
I just love films, TV shows, and novels where some storylines repeat themselves in an endless loop ... Have you seen (or even heard of) Happy Death Day? I am thinking of watching it. Never heard of it. But there are a lot of time loop movies out there.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2018 16:12:36 GMT -5
I just love films, TV shows, and novels where some storylines repeat themselves in an endless loop -- people doing the same things over and over again, but with each iteration, something is slightly different. I usually see it in sci fi movies where people are caught in a time loop, e.g., Star Trek, Stargate, but also in non-sci-fi films like Groundhog Day. It never gets old for me. It's sort of an ironic theme for films, since that's what they do all the time when shooting scenes -- do them over and over again.
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Post by Wolfgang on Feb 12, 2018 16:22:27 GMT -5
Okay, so...too many naked people.
I feel like I'm watching a movie of someone playing an open world game set in the Old West, e.g., Red Dead Redemption. I had to explain to my wife the difference between linear games vs. open world games; main missions vs. side missions; and the existence of other types of games, e.g., real time strategy, turn-based, platform, and of course, sports games.
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Post by Wolfgang on Feb 12, 2018 17:04:47 GMT -5
Always have been impressed with Jimmi Simpson in just about every role he took on in his career. Even the ridiculously comical one in It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia where he's just hysterical.
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Post by mikegarrison on Feb 12, 2018 17:30:42 GMT -5
Okay, so...too many naked people. I feel like I'm watching a movie of someone playing an open world game set in the Old West, e.g., Red Dead Redemption. I had to explain to my wife the difference between linear games vs. open world games; main missions vs. side missions; and the existence of other types of games, e.g., real time strategy, turn-based, platform, and of course, sports games. It's more like an RPG than an open-world FPS. Those are very related gaming concepts, but FPS is more about the missions, while RPG is more about building up your character and (if you are into it) actual role-playing. Way back in 1981, Larry Niven and Steven Barnes wrote a book called Dream Park, in which holograms and robots and Disney-style magic allow players to basically play a role-playing fantasy game in real life. (This is now called LARPing.) It was a murder/spy thriller, but also a story about role-playing and how intense it can get. Westworld, the movie, was more about the robots breaking down and going crazy that it really was about the concept of Westworld. It was just another one of Crichton's anti-technology stories, about how we don't understand the consequences of complex systems and shouldn't play around with them. The TV show seems to be, in some sense, more like Dream Park than Westworld. The movie Westworld really concentrated more on the robot breakdown than the question of how role-playing games affect the people playing them. But that's a huge part of the TV Westworld. (It also has a lot of Frankenstein in it, with a warning about playing God.)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2018 17:55:11 GMT -5
Okay, so...too many naked people. Naked people sitting in chairs.
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Post by Wolfgang on Feb 12, 2018 17:59:46 GMT -5
Okay, so...too many naked people. Naked people sitting in chairs. It must've been very uncomfortable for all involved, esp. Thandie Newton, Even Rachel Wood, and all those guys with tiny penises.
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Post by mikegarrison on Feb 12, 2018 18:02:11 GMT -5
Okay, so...too many naked people. Naked people sitting in chairs. Sitting still and not reacting as other people walk around them talking about them.
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Post by Wolfgang on Feb 12, 2018 18:03:52 GMT -5
The actor who plays Dolores's father, Louis Herthum, is such an incredible actor. I don't think I've ever witnessed such great acting chops as I did when his character was "interrogated." With just his face, he was able to exhibit a range of subtle emotions. I don't know if they visually altered his eyes or not, but boy, I was certainly impressed.
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Post by Wolfgang on Feb 12, 2018 18:27:45 GMT -5
When my wife and I were watching the first two episodes, we paused the DVD player quite frequently because we constantly talked about how such a park could be practically implemented from a business and operational standpoint. (I think it took us nearly 2 hours to finish one episode.) Turned out, what we guessed was what WestWorld actually implemented; that is, repeating scripted narratives that the newcomers could enjoy at their leisure, with some variation for improvisation. But boy, what a bloody mess! The cleanup and maintenance costs to recirculate the "dead" robots must be astronomical. I heard in one episode that the admission price for a newcomer was $40K per day. I feel like the pricing structure has to be more complex than that -- some newcomers will do more and wreak more havoc while others will just leisurely stroll through the main locations, especially those who came with family members. That Ed Harris guy must be paying much more than $40K per day. And despite this hefty admission price, the park is losing money?
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Post by gnu2vball on Feb 12, 2018 22:49:01 GMT -5
When my wife and I were watching the first two episodes, we paused the DVD player quite frequently because we constantly talked about how such a park could be practically implemented from a business and operational standpoint. (I think it took us nearly 2 hours to finish one episode.) Turned out, what we guessed was what WestWorld actually implemented; that is, repeating scripted narratives that the newcomers could enjoy at their leisure, with some variation for improvisation. But boy, what a bloody mess! The cleanup and maintenance costs to recirculate the "dead" robots must be astronomical. I heard in one episode that the admission price for a newcomer was $40K per day. I feel like the pricing structure has to be more complex than that -- some newcomers will do more and wreak more havoc while others will just leisurely stroll through the main locations, especially those who came with family members. That Ed Harris guy must be paying much more than $40K per day. And despite this hefty admission price, the park is losing money? When you have robots killing robots, how do you make money?
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Post by mikegarrison on Feb 12, 2018 23:45:48 GMT -5
When my wife and I were watching the first two episodes, we paused the DVD player quite frequently because we constantly talked about how such a park could be practically implemented from a business and operational standpoint. (I think it took us nearly 2 hours to finish one episode.) Turned out, what we guessed was what WestWorld actually implemented; that is, repeating scripted narratives that the newcomers could enjoy at their leisure, with some variation for improvisation. But boy, what a bloody mess! The cleanup and maintenance costs to recirculate the "dead" robots must be astronomical. I heard in one episode that the admission price for a newcomer was $40K per day. I feel like the pricing structure has to be more complex than that -- some newcomers will do more and wreak more havoc while others will just leisurely stroll through the main locations, especially those who came with family members. That Ed Harris guy must be paying much more than $40K per day. And despite this hefty admission price, the park is losing money? At one point (perhaps the first episode?) one of the park operators flags to the head of security that a guest is chewing through a large number of robots very quickly. He asks if he should be slowed down. So apparently they have ways of keeping the guests from getting out of control with the number of robots they kill. (The guest in question is the Man In Black, Ed Harris, and the response is "*That* guest gets to do anything he wants." [Emphasis in the dialog.] You will find out later why he is exceptionally privileged.)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2018 16:15:39 GMT -5
Naked people sitting in chairs. It must've been very uncomfortable for all involved, esp. Thandie Newton, Even Rachel Wood, and all those guys with tiny penises. Tiny Penises. Worst hard rock band ever. Reminds me of an old joke: "Heard you only had a tiny part in Oh! Calcutta!" Like 46 years old.
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Post by Wolfgang on Feb 15, 2018 17:06:44 GMT -5
The whole Maeve-Felix-Sylvester storyline doesn't ring true to me. I mean, Felix and Sylvester had numerous opportunities to shut Maeve down. They had the tablet in their hands, for chrissakes! And I don't buy Felix's actions as a believable character. Yeah, they had the whole bird robot thing to show how much Felix cared about these robots, which then translated to his feelings for Maeve, almost like giving her the wings to fly free. But I don't buy it. If they're so worried about losing their jobs, they would've reported the situation to Security or QA to put the keibosch on Maeve's plans.
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Post by mikegarrison on Feb 15, 2018 19:54:25 GMT -5
The whole Maeve-Felix-Sylvester storyline doesn't ring true to me. I mean, Felix and Sylvester had numerous opportunities to shut Maeve down. They had the tablet in their hands, for chrissakes! And I don't buy Felix's actions as a believable character. Yeah, they had the whole bird robot thing to show how much Felix cared about these robots, which then translated to his feelings for Maeve, almost like giving her the wings to fly free. But I don't buy it. If they're so worried about losing their jobs, they would've reported the situation to Security or QA to put the keibosch on Maeve's plans. Sylvester is fundamentally a cowardly person. I don't think he has the guts to stand up to Maeve. Felix *might*, but I don't think he really wants to. (By the way, Felix and Sylvester? Both famous cartoon cats.)
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