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Post by rainbowbadger on Dec 5, 2016 21:44:56 GMT -5
I would imagine growing up kama'aina, a place like Hawaii is more familiar and comfortable.
Please note that I'm not saying that any recruits are actively choosing not to go to Hawaii because there aren't enough white people there. I'm saying that people gravitate to where they are most comfortable, and being a racial/ethnic minority for the first time in your life can make you feel uncomfortable, even if you can't put your finger on why.
It is my experience that if you come to Hawaii with an open heart and mind, and deference and respect for the people and culture, you will find the people warm and welcoming, and you will have the experience of your life. But getting comfortable with that can take some time, and some recruits might not be willing or able to give it that much time before deciding to look elsewhere.
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Post by Courtside5 on Dec 5, 2016 21:57:12 GMT -5
I would imagine growing up kama'aina, a place like Hawaii is more familiar and comfortable. Please note that I'm not saying that any recruits are actively choosing not to go to Hawaii because there aren't enough white people there. I'm saying that people gravitate to where they are most comfortable, and being a racial/ethnic minority for the first time in your life can make you feel uncomfortable, even if you can't put your finger on why. It is my experience that if you come to Hawaii with an open heart and mind, and deference and respect for the people and culture, you will find the people warm and welcoming, and you will have the experience of your life. But getting comfortable with that can take some time, and some recruits might not be willing or able to give it that much time before deciding to look elsewhere. I agree. You're right. Everyone has a certain comfort level. Even people from Hawaii sometimes find it hard to adjust when they go to the mainland. They also end up feeling homesick. Like they say, there's no place like home. Where ever that may be.
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Post by vbprisoner on Dec 5, 2016 22:06:06 GMT -5
If I was being offered a scholarship I would go to Hawaii in a heartbeat! 4-5 years of Hawaiian life with sunshine year round, beaches, super friendly people and the food is pretty good too. I would be like a 4 year volleyball vacation!
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Post by skeleton on Dec 5, 2016 22:24:16 GMT -5
At the end of the 2017 season, 4 scholarships will become available (Koelsch, Greeley, Kahakai and Maglio). I believe I heard Dave say that there is only 1 more scholarship available for 2018. The only recruits I have heard of are Trinity Castaneda and Liliana Light.
Who am I missing? Anyway, I hope they give one to Emma Smith.
Also, next year’s senior night will include Anderson and Guinasso in addition to the 4 mentioned above.
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Post by Mix Breed-TEXAS,HI,LBSU on Dec 5, 2016 22:46:24 GMT -5
Any of you have any thoughts and opinions on the 2017 recruits and walk-on's, redshirts? Will any of them have a major impact next season?
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Post by hwnstunner on Dec 5, 2016 22:47:58 GMT -5
At the end of the 2017 season, 4 scholarships will become available (Koelsch, Greeley, Kahakai and Maglio). I believe I heard Dave say that there is only 1 more scholarship available for 2018. The only recruits I have heard of are Trinity Castaneda and Liliana Light. Who am I missing? Anyway, I hope they give one to Emma Smith. Also, next year’s senior night will include Anderson and Guinasso in addition to the 4 mentioned above. I hope Emma Smith gets a scholarship after next year as well. She may even give Kahakai a run for her money next season. I like Kahakai overall, but Smith is quicker and her passing platform is the best on the team. Really think she is a gem. I've said it before, but Smith is not a walk-on type backcourt player by any means. She was highly touted out of HS, and still shocked she walked on at UH, although I believe being able to play beach and indoor factored in. Plus Hawaii has two walk on hitters in Ross and Misraje. Give Smith a scholarship... don't want her to transfer lol.
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Post by hwnstunner on Dec 5, 2016 22:52:02 GMT -5
Any of you have any thoughts and opinions on the 2017 recruits and walk-on's, redshirts? Will any of them have a major impact next season? To make a long story short, all will be projects with high potential that could develop over time. Overall, one of the weaker classes Hawaii has signed in a LONG time. I'd be shocked to see any ahead of the returning players on the depth chart. I think Lipscomb has a hammer of an arm tho. She's the most likely to push on the depth chart. The most intriguing is Arden Misarje (sp?). She's a 6'2 walk on hitter. And from the video's I've seen, I still have NO idea why she didn't sign anywhere. Maybe she started late or wasn't involved in club ball until recently, but she's pretty well-rounded, jumps well, and hits hard. Don't think she'll play of course, but I'm just shocked she's a walk on.
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Post by Courtside5 on Dec 5, 2016 23:29:42 GMT -5
IMO Lipscomb should be switched to outside asap when she gets to fall camp. I bet with the hammer of an arm she has her talents could best be used there. I mean we're loaded with MB's already.
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Post by Wolfgang on Dec 5, 2016 23:29:50 GMT -5
I'm always hopeful of the incoming recruiting class but I'm also realistic. Take a look at one of the tallest and supposedly one of the most talented recruiting classes (at the time) for Hawaii in recent memory -- the 2010 class:
Michelle Waber, 6-3 Kaela Goodman, 6-1 Emily Hartong, 6-2 Kristiana Tuaniga, 6-1
Only Hartong panned out -- and boy, did she pan out! All-American 1st team! Waber transferred out after her freshman year. Goodman was an OPP who came in occasionally as part of a double-sub. Tuaniga hardly played.
Just for completeness, the other two freshmen were:
Mita Uiato, 5-8 Kristina Kam, 5-7
But I'm not counting those shorties.
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Post by Courtside5 on Dec 5, 2016 23:40:47 GMT -5
I'm always hopeful of the incoming recruiting class but I'm also realistic. Take a look at one of the tallest and supposedly one of the most talented recruiting classes (at the time) for Hawaii in recent memory: Michelle Waber, 6-3 Kaela Goodman, 6-1 Emily Hartong, 6-2 Kristiana Tuaniga, 6-1 Only Hartong panned out -- and boy, did she pan out! All-American 1st team! Waber transferred out after her freshman year. Goodman was an OPP who came in occasionally as part of a double-sub. Tuaniga hardly played. Just for completeness, the other two freshmen were: Mita Uiato, 5-8 Kristina Kam, 5-7 But I'm not counting those shorties. So many recruits don't really pan out. Can't even remember a lot of them. Still wondering what it would be like if the stars aligned and had Nikki and Hartong start out together. Nikki at opposite and Hartong on the left. Ahhhh...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2016 23:47:11 GMT -5
I would imagine growing up kama'aina, a place like Hawaii is more familiar and comfortable. Please note that I'm not saying that any recruits are actively choosing not to go to Hawaii because there aren't enough white people there. I'm saying that people gravitate to where they are most comfortable, and being a racial/ethnic minority for the first time in your life can make you feel uncomfortable, even if you can't put your finger on why. It is my experience that if you come to Hawaii with an open heart and mind, and deference and respect for the people and culture, you will find the people warm and welcoming, and you will have the experience of your life. But getting comfortable with that can take some time, and some recruits might not be willing or able to give it that much time before deciding to look elsewhere. Yes, I had responded to your initial post that a white person finding themselves in a place as a minority may find it to be "off-putting." ("Off-putting" Oxford dictionary def: Unpleasant, disconcerting, or repellent) It's a strange choice of word but I'm sure you didn't mean it as it may have come across and just meant that they may feel out of their comfort zone. That's true but it's not like moving to a different country since white people are about 40% of the population and the culture is American with various ethnic groups living and contributing within it. Shoji is not recruiting those people you described so I don't see the problem. He has had much success recruiting people who want to experience and learn from diversity and new experiences/cultures. Hawaii is not for everyone but it sure is paradise and fun-in-the-sun for a lot of people who dream of coming here -- especially for a defined 4 year period where you get to play your favorite sport while there in front of incredible fans. So I still don't see any perceived culture shock as a big issue to recruiting. The big recruits Shoji has recruited from all over the country/world have stayed and loved it. Shoji knows who to focus on. I lived on the mainland for 10 years so I do know the difference of living here and on the mainland (and I obviously prefer to live here). Different strokes... Every program has the same issues. Some people don't want to live in a frozen tundra or want to be close to beaches. Others may not want to be in a place where there is little diversity. Every program has to find those athletes that are a good fit. It's not unique to or more difficult for Hawaii. I still maintain that the conference, distance and NCAA are the main obstacles for Hawaii.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2016 23:53:01 GMT -5
Any of you have any thoughts and opinions on the 2017 recruits and walk-on's, redshirts? Will any of them have a major impact next season? To make a long story short, all will be projects with high potential that could develop over time. Overall, one of the weaker classes Hawaii has signed in a LONG time. I'd be shocked to see any ahead of the returning players on the depth chart. I think Lipscomb has a hammer of an arm tho. She's the most likely to push on the depth chart. The most intriguing is Arden Misarje (sp?). She's a 6'2 walk on hitter. And from the video's I've seen, I still have NO idea why she didn't sign anywhere. Maybe she started late or wasn't involved in club ball until recently, but she's pretty well-rounded, jumps well, and hits hard. Don't think she'll play of course, but I'm just shocked she's a walk on. 2017 is not the weakest class at the University of Hawaii. 2012 That was just four years ago so not that LONG ago. In four years people will be going on and on about how great Williams and Howling turned out. Smith is not going anywhere.
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Post by madonna on Dec 6, 2016 0:09:45 GMT -5
I'm always hopeful of the incoming recruiting class but I'm also realistic. Take a look at one of the tallest and supposedly one of the most talented recruiting classes (at the time) for Hawaii in recent memory: Michelle Waber, 6-3 Kaela Goodman, 6-1 Emily Hartong, 6-2 Kristiana Tuaniga, 6-1 Only Hartong panned out -- and boy, did she pan out! All-American 1st team! Waber transferred out after her freshman year. Goodman was an OPP who came in occasionally as part of a double-sub. Tuaniga hardly played. Just for completeness, the other two freshmen were: Mita Uiato, 5-8 Kristina Kam, 5-7 But I'm not counting those shorties. So many recruits don't really pan out. Can't even remember a lot of them. Still wondering what it would be like if the stars aligned and had Nikki and Hartong start out together. Nikki at opposite and Hartong on the left. Ahhhh... Also try and imagine what a team Hawaii would have had if Croson was able to stay with the team during Taylor's Freshman year. Hawaii would have had so so MBs, but the pins would have been one heck of a 1-2-3 punch.
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Post by hwnstunner on Dec 6, 2016 0:28:33 GMT -5
To make a long story short, all will be projects with high potential that could develop over time. Overall, one of the weaker classes Hawaii has signed in a LONG time. I'd be shocked to see any ahead of the returning players on the depth chart. I think Lipscomb has a hammer of an arm tho. She's the most likely to push on the depth chart. The most intriguing is Arden Misarje (sp?). She's a 6'2 walk on hitter. And from the video's I've seen, I still have NO idea why she didn't sign anywhere. Maybe she started late or wasn't involved in club ball until recently, but she's pretty well-rounded, jumps well, and hits hard. Don't think she'll play of course, but I'm just shocked she's a walk on. 2017 is not the weakest class at the University of Hawaii. 2012 That was just four years ago so not that LONG ago. In four years people will be going on and on about how great Williams and Howling turned out. Smith is not going anywhere. I know you know your Hawaii recruiting so I'm not here to banter with you. But I DID NOT say it was the weakest. I clearly said it's one of the WEAKER ones in a long time. Sure, that's debatable, but that's what I believe on what video I've been able to watch so far on the recruits in comparison to the positions they come in as. I did say that the have HIGH potential. I'm not throwing any of the recruits out the door, but let's be honest, we're working with potential and development with this class. No one is projected to come in right away and play.
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Post by vballfreak808 on Dec 6, 2016 1:22:48 GMT -5
I'm always hopeful of the incoming recruiting class but I'm also realistic. Take a look at one of the tallest and supposedly one of the most talented recruiting classes (at the time) for Hawaii in recent memory -- the 2010 class: Michelle Waber, 6-3 Kaela Goodman, 6-1 Emily Hartong, 6-2 Kristiana Tuaniga, 6-1 Only Hartong panned out -- and boy, did she pan out! All-American 1st team! Waber transferred out after her freshman year. Goodman was an OPP who came in occasionally as part of a double-sub. Tuaniga hardly played. Just for completeness, the other two freshmen were: Mita Uiato, 5-8 Kristina Kam, 5-7 But I'm not counting those shorties. Tuaniga and Kam were actually part of the 2009 recruiting class since she redshirted that season. Even though Waber transferred out, they added in transfers Lelepali, Longo, and Kastl to improve that class.
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