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Post by 808empath on Jul 31, 2017 20:20:17 GMT -5
Hawaii. While Shoji has moved on, the road to the Big West title still goes thru Hawaii. so with an entire thread devoted to the Wahine, and with 100 times more of the excruciating details - here is the view from a distance. Big Loss. Shoji, Taylor, Mitchem Big Add. Sophia Howling, Shaney Lipscomb (MB/OHs) ok, so Hawaii loses their big gun and their legendary coach, but it's not like the cupboard is bare. Hawaii brings back a very experienced team, and even more important, they have 3 key pieces in player of the year candidates Emily Maglio (MB) & Norene Iosia (S), plus libero Savanah Kahakai to build the defense and offense around - especially with a setter as talented as Iosia coming back, Hawaii will be at the top of the Big West. The replacement of Shoji with Mow-Santos is about as seamless of a transition one could have imagined. The feeling here is Mow-Santos will give a little edge to the team, the new era will create a new buzz & motivation, and while front-line players McKenna Granato, Casey Castillo may not be the traditional Hawaii'big arm' OHs, with another year of experience and Iosia setting the table the offense will give them ample opportunities to step up and they'll deliver. Add in 3 solid front-line recruits and Hawaii has a lot of upside potential to grow as the season progresses. As usual, Hawaii has the run of pre-conference tournaments at home. Hawaii will get tested early with UCLA, San Diego, Utah, Baylor, & BYU where they'll probably take a couple of lumps but they also could surprise and come into conference with a top 20 ranking. With a 9 team conference and Hawaii's unique travel schedule, the Hawaii conference schedule is, well, a little weird. Should Hawaii make the NCAAs (and they'll likely have a good idea after their Nov 4 match with Long Beach), they'll play just TWO matches after that until the first week of December - a little bizarre, and part of the reason I think the Big West should consider a post-season 4 or 6 team tourney, just two many gaps year after year for teams with Hawaii the most notable. I think it's the best possible scenario for Mow-Santos. The expectations are reasonable, a solid class coming in, and the challenge in the background is to see the quality of her first recruiting class. Hawaii's recruits below: Howling is a 6-3 middle hitter out of Venice High School in Los Angeles, Calif. where she has recorded over 300 kills in both her sophomore and junior seasons with the Gondoliers. The two-year team captain has earned several accolades during her high school career—including being named to PrepVolleyball's Senior Ace List and their 2017 Juniors List . Howling has been recognized as an AVCA Phenom (2013-16) and was named to both the all-city and all-league first team the past two years. In the classroom, Howling has also been a standout as an all-state Scholar-Athlete Award honoree for 2013, '14, and '15. "Sophia possesses the size and physicality that we look for in players," says Shoji. "She has loads of potential with raw athletic talent and we project her to contribute to the program quickly." Lipscomb is a 6-2 middle/outside hitter from San Diego, Calif. This past fall the six-rotation player was named to several "senior watch lists" including prepvolleyball.com's "Class of 2017 Senior Aces: The 150," and the San Diego Union-Tribune's "Prep Volleyball Players to Watch" list. As a freshman, she helped La Jolla Country Day capture the 2013 Division 5 state championship and as a sophomore she led the Torreys to a state quarterfinals appearance. The past two seasons, she has played for Cathedral Catholic High School in San Diego. "We like Shaney's versatility and her aggressiveness," states Shoji. "She plays at a very high-energy level with a strong, competitive spirit which we liked." Williams is a 6-2 middle hitter from Mayfair High School in Lakewood, Calif. an all-league first team selection, Williams helped lead the Monsoons to the league championship and Most Valuable Player honors last season. She also was named her team's "Most Improved" and "Best Offensive Player" while earning all-tournament recognition for the Molten Classic and was a first-team all-league pick as well. "Skyler has great athletic ability with a lot of room for growth," says Shoji. "She will be an emerging player for us in the coming years." She is coached in club by former Rainbow Wahine Alex Griffiths who played at Hawai'i from 2010-11 Btw, its Ah Mow-Santos.
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Post by network155 on Jul 31, 2017 22:40:15 GMT -5
Hawaii. While Shoji has moved on, the road to the Big West title still goes thru Hawaii. so with an entire thread devoted to the Wahine, and with 100 times more of the excruciating details - here is the view from a distance. Big Loss. Shoji, Taylor, Mitchem Big Add. Sophia Howling, Shaney Lipscomb (MB/OHs) ok, so Hawaii loses their big gun and their legendary coach, but it's not like the cupboard is bare. Hawaii brings back a very experienced team, and even more important, they have 3 key pieces in player of the year candidates Emily Maglio (MB) & Norene Iosia (S), plus libero Savanah Kahakai to build the defense and offense around - especially with a setter as talented as Iosia coming back, Hawaii will be at the top of the Big West. The replacement of Shoji with Mow-Santos is about as seamless of a transition one could have imagined. The feeling here is Mow-Santos will give a little edge to the team, the new era will create a new buzz & motivation, and while front-line players McKenna Granato, Casey Castillo may not be the traditional Hawaii'big arm' OHs, with another year of experience and Iosia setting the table the offense will give them ample opportunities to step up and they'll deliver. Add in 3 solid front-line recruits and Hawaii has a lot of upside potential to grow as the season progresses. As usual, Hawaii has the run of pre-conference tournaments at home. Hawaii will get tested early with UCLA, San Diego, Utah, Baylor, & BYU where they'll probably take a couple of lumps but they also could surprise and come into conference with a top 20 ranking. With a 9 team conference and Hawaii's unique travel schedule, the Hawaii conference schedule is, well, a little weird. Should Hawaii make the NCAAs (and they'll likely have a good idea after their Nov 4 match with Long Beach), they'll play just TWO matches after that until the first week of December - a little bizarre, and part of the reason I think the Big West should consider a post-season 4 or 6 team tourney, just two many gaps year after year for teams with Hawaii the most notable. I think it's the best possible scenario for Mow-Santos. The expectations are reasonable, a solid class coming in, and the challenge in the background is to see the quality of her first recruiting class. Hawaii's recruits below: Howling is a 6-3 middle hitter out of Venice High School in Los Angeles, Calif. where she has recorded over 300 kills in both her sophomore and junior seasons with the Gondoliers. The two-year team captain has earned several accolades during her high school career—including being named to PrepVolleyball's Senior Ace List and their 2017 Juniors List . Howling has been recognized as an AVCA Phenom (2013-16) and was named to both the all-city and all-league first team the past two years. In the classroom, Howling has also been a standout as an all-state Scholar-Athlete Award honoree for 2013, '14, and '15. "Sophia possesses the size and physicality that we look for in players," says Shoji. "She has loads of potential with raw athletic talent and we project her to contribute to the program quickly." Lipscomb is a 6-2 middle/outside hitter from San Diego, Calif. This past fall the six-rotation player was named to several "senior watch lists" including prepvolleyball.com's "Class of 2017 Senior Aces: The 150," and the San Diego Union-Tribune's "Prep Volleyball Players to Watch" list. As a freshman, she helped La Jolla Country Day capture the 2013 Division 5 state championship and as a sophomore she led the Torreys to a state quarterfinals appearance. The past two seasons, she has played for Cathedral Catholic High School in San Diego. "We like Shaney's versatility and her aggressiveness," states Shoji. "She plays at a very high-energy level with a strong, competitive spirit which we liked." Williams is a 6-2 middle hitter from Mayfair High School in Lakewood, Calif. an all-league first team selection, Williams helped lead the Monsoons to the league championship and Most Valuable Player honors last season. She also was named her team's "Most Improved" and "Best Offensive Player" while earning all-tournament recognition for the Molten Classic and was a first-team all-league pick as well. "Skyler has great athletic ability with a lot of room for growth," says Shoji. "She will be an emerging player for us in the coming years." She is coached in club by former Rainbow Wahine Alex Griffiths who played at Hawai'i from 2010-11 I hope you're right. They do return a good core from lastseason. I hope some of the newer girls can contribute and make an impact right away. We need depth at almost every position.
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Post by jake on Jul 31, 2017 23:33:35 GMT -5
Hawaii. While Shoji has moved on, the road to the Big West title still goes thru Hawaii. so with an entire thread devoted to the Wahine, and with 100 times more of the excruciating details - here is the view from a distance. Big Loss. Shoji, Taylor, Mitchem Big Add. Sophia Howling, Shaney Lipscomb (MB/OHs) ok, so Hawaii loses their big gun and their legendary coach, but it's not like the cupboard is bare. Hawaii brings back a very experienced team, and even more important, they have 3 key pieces in player of the year candidates Emily Maglio (MB) & Norene Iosia (S), plus libero Savanah Kahakai to build the defense and offense around - especially with a setter as talented as Iosia coming back, Hawaii will be at the top of the Big West. The replacement of Shoji with Mow-Santos is about as seamless of a transition one could have imagined. The feeling here is Mow-Santos will give a little edge to the team, the new era will create a new buzz & motivation, and while front-line players McKenna Granato, Casey Castillo may not be the traditional Hawaii'big arm' OHs, with another year of experience and Iosia setting the table the offense will give them ample opportunities to step up and they'll deliver. Add in 3 solid front-line recruits and Hawaii has a lot of upside potential to grow as the season progresses. As usual, Hawaii has the run of pre-conference tournaments at home. Hawaii will get tested early with UCLA, San Diego, Utah, Baylor, & BYU where they'll probably take a couple of lumps but they also could surprise and come into conference with a top 20 ranking. With a 9 team conference and Hawaii's unique travel schedule, the Hawaii conference schedule is, well, a little weird. Should Hawaii make the NCAAs (and they'll likely have a good idea after their Nov 4 match with Long Beach), they'll play just TWO matches after that until the first week of December - a little bizarre, and part of the reason I think the Big West should consider a post-season 4 or 6 team tourney, just two many gaps year after year for teams with Hawaii the most notable. I think it's the best possible scenario for Mow-Santos. The expectations are reasonable, a solid class coming in, and the challenge in the background is to see the quality of her first recruiting class. Hawaii's recruits below: Howling is a 6-3 middle hitter out of Venice High School in Los Angeles, Calif. where she has recorded over 300 kills in both her sophomore and junior seasons with the Gondoliers. The two-year team captain has earned several accolades during her high school career—including being named to PrepVolleyball's Senior Ace List and their 2017 Juniors List . Howling has been recognized as an AVCA Phenom (2013-16) and was named to both the all-city and all-league first team the past two years. In the classroom, Howling has also been a standout as an all-state Scholar-Athlete Award honoree for 2013, '14, and '15. "Sophia possesses the size and physicality that we look for in players," says Shoji. "She has loads of potential with raw athletic talent and we project her to contribute to the program quickly." Lipscomb is a 6-2 middle/outside hitter from San Diego, Calif. This past fall the six-rotation player was named to several "senior watch lists" including prepvolleyball.com's "Class of 2017 Senior Aces: The 150," and the San Diego Union-Tribune's "Prep Volleyball Players to Watch" list. As a freshman, she helped La Jolla Country Day capture the 2013 Division 5 state championship and as a sophomore she led the Torreys to a state quarterfinals appearance. The past two seasons, she has played for Cathedral Catholic High School in San Diego. "We like Shaney's versatility and her aggressiveness," states Shoji. "She plays at a very high-energy level with a strong, competitive spirit which we liked." Williams is a 6-2 middle hitter from Mayfair High School in Lakewood, Calif. an all-league first team selection, Williams helped lead the Monsoons to the league championship and Most Valuable Player honors last season. She also was named her team's "Most Improved" and "Best Offensive Player" while earning all-tournament recognition for the Molten Classic and was a first-team all-league pick as well. "Skyler has great athletic ability with a lot of room for growth," says Shoji. "She will be an emerging player for us in the coming years." She is coached in club by former Rainbow Wahine Alex Griffiths who played at Hawai'i from 2010-11 I hope you're right. They do return a good core from lastseason. I hope some of the newer girls can contribute and make an impact right away. We need depth at almost every position. Making up for UH's player loss will be huge.
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Aug 1, 2017 0:45:38 GMT -5
Long Beach
while Hawaii's transition from 2016 to 2017 can be characterized by words like continuity and seamless, the Beach off-season is more in the realm of abruptness & chaotic. BG's announcement is still less than 2 months old, and that came on the heels of a off-season marked by 5 players transferring out. One word sums up what's about to unfold - fascinating.
Big Loss: Barber (OH), Gimmillaro Big Adds: Alexis Patterson (S) senior xfer, Monica Simkova (OH), Mina Andjelkovic (S)
In a nutshell, Long Beach is about to embark on one big wild experiment this year. Now that LB has inked UNLV 1st all-conference setter Patterson, the only glaring hole to replacing on the court is that of all-everything Nele Barber whose knack for turning off-kilter sets into kills made her something of a magician last year - she literally carried the Beach on her shoulder. Long Beach is not lacking for pieces to fill in the line-up puzzle. Starting with the setter position, Patterson will need to learn a LB offense that typically requires fast sets to the middles and slides - she'll have a promising understudy in Andjelkovic to push her, and brings up the intriguing possibility that Joy may toy with a rotation that has both setters in there at times to utilize Patterson front-row game.
Long Beach returns arguably the best middle combo back in Ashley Murray & Eri Xue. If Murray comes back with a little more nimble footwork, she could be the best MB in the conference. BG was tinkering with putting Murray on the right, but it's up in the air if that would be the best use of Murray's game at this stage of her career. Likewise, Xue could be a monster, having putting up some solid numbers as a frosh even while being out of position way too often - if Fuerbringer can refine her fundamentals, Long Beach will have a formidable block. Soph Kristen Norveel played sparingly as a frosh, but may also crack the line-up as well, especially if Murray can adapt to play some opp.
Long Beach will miss Wilson, who transferred to TCU, although she battled a number of injuries. The back-row will be anchored by the combination of all-everything Hailey Harward at libero, and Rachel Nieto as a defensive specialist.
Now comes the tough part - LB has all sorts of candidates to fill the OH/Opp positions, and who will win out is anybody's guess. Of the returnees, Anete Brinke has the best variety of shot-making skills, the issue is she's been prone to some injuries and to some stretches of errors both front & back-court, so when she's good she's good, and when....well you can fill in the blank. Megan Kruidhof has a nice vertical and arm swing, and a solid beach season should make her a better all-around player, but will have to show she's developed better shot-making skills. Utah transfer Emma Kirst and San Fran transfer Krystina Adamcikova will make a case for playing time. Add in Slovenia's Monika Simkova & red-shirt soph Ashley Anselmo who will challenge for an OH or Opp role. Team McKienzie-Fuerbringer have only had about 4 weeks so far to evaluate all the options available to prepare for the slew of hitters coming in, and the competition on the pins will be fierce. Although 5 players left, in essence Long Beach should experience a distinct upgrade in talent and buy-in with the changeovers. LB will have the right leadership in place for a transition year to set examples with the physical presence and attitude Murray brings along with the dynamic athletic force and personality that is Hailey Harward.
Which brings us to the coaching. Here the contrast with the Hawaii situation is worlds apart. Whereas Ah Mow-Santos had 6 months to prepare and fewer player turnover, Joy McKinezie-Fuerbringer has probably the biggest professional challenge in D1 volleyball this year. There's no doubt the coaching background and pedigree is a perfect fit. Still She's got two days left to prepare, after having about 4 weeks to decide what elements of the BG system to use, plus she's got a full-time side gig owning a VB club, and then doing this all from a home-base of Hermosa - they might be better off living in a Winnebago next to the Pyramid for this season, you do the math. for LB to be successful Team McKinezie-Fuerbringer focus and delivery to the players is gonna be a challenge, and they may not get to sleep until mid-December. Retaining Mike Campbell on staff will help bridge the gap, and frankly, a different delivery/messenger may help rejuvinate the Beach program. LB faithful want to see the same brand of Volleyball BG preached (pass faster, set quicker, terminate faster than your opponent - just requires precision). If Team McKinezie-Fuerbringer can navigate the transition, keep the best of BG's teaching attributes, and put the pieces together, Long Beach could be primed for a run at the conference title. It'll be an adventure, that's for sure.
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Post by beachgrad on Aug 1, 2017 19:09:44 GMT -5
I am as excited about this up coming volleyball season as I have ever been. There is a great group of young ladies on the roster that are very talent and I believe the new coaching staff will breath life into the program. The new players are much better than the ones that left so I expect great things; hopefully, after a very short break in period for the staff and players. Team needs to start fast for RPI purposes.
Sure wish Barber was still eligible!
ccman was spot on regarding many things and enjoyed reading his analysis. The team is solid in the middle, on the right, at setting, in the back row, but the left still is questionable. If a go to player materializes, this team will be very dangerous and I expect will beat some teams that will surprise many.
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Aug 1, 2017 22:46:24 GMT -5
# of nations represented by Long Beach
might be more appropriately named the Beach Bloc
Mina Andjelkovic (Serbia) Radi Marinova (Bulgaria) Monika Simkova (Slovakia) Krystina Adamcimkova (Czech Republic) Anete Brinke (Latvia) Kristi Norveel (Norway) Eri Xue (China)
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Post by network155 on Aug 1, 2017 23:15:39 GMT -5
Long Beach while Hawaii's transition from 2016 to 2017 can be characterized by words like continuity and seamless, the Beach off-season is more in the realm of abruptness & chaotic. BG's announcement is still less than 2 months old, and that came on the heels of a off-season marked by 5 players transferring out. One word sums up what's about to unfold - fascinating. Big Loss: Barber (OH), Gimmillaro Big Adds: Alexis Patterson (S) senior xfer, Monica Simkova (OH), Mina Andjelkovic (S) In a nutshell, Long Beach is about to embark on one big wild experiment this year. Now that LB has inked UNLV 1st all-conference setter Patterson, the only glaring hole to replacing on the court is that of all-everything Nele Barber whose knack for turning off-kilter sets into kills made her something of a magician last year - she literally carried the Beach on her shoulder. Long Beach is not lacking for pieces to fill in the line-up puzzle. Starting with the setter position, Patterson will need to learn a LB offense that typically requires fast sets to the middles and slides - she'll have a promising understudy in Andjelkovic to push her, and brings up the intriguing possibility that Joy may toy with a rotation that has both setters in there at times to utilize Patterson front-row game. Long Beach returns arguably the best middle combo back in Ashley Murray & Eri Xue. If Murray comes back with a little more nimble footwork, she could be the best MB in the conference. BG was tinkering with putting Murray on the right, but it's up in the air if that would be the best use of Murray's game at this stage of her career. Likewise, Xue could be a monster, having putting up some solid numbers as a frosh even while being out of position way too often - if Fuerbringer can refine her fundamentals, Long Beach will have a formidable block. Soph Kristen Norveel played sparingly as a frosh, but may also crack the line-up as well, especially if Murray can adapt to play some opp. Long Beach will miss Wilson, who transferred to TCU, although she battled a number of injuries. The back-row will be anchored by the combination of all-everything Hailey Harward at libero, and Rachel Nieto as a defensive specialist. Now comes the tough part - LB has all sorts of candidates to fill the OH/Opp positions, and who will win out is anybody's guess. Of the returnees, Anete Brinke has the best variety of shot-making skills, the issue is she's been prone to some injuries and to some stretches of errors both front & back-court, so when she's good she's good, and when....well you can fill in the blank. Megan Kruidhof has a nice vertical and arm swing, and a solid beach season should make her a better all-around player, but will have to show she's developed better shot-making skills. Utah transfer Emma Kirst and San Fran transfer Krystina Adamcikova will make a case for playing time. Add in Slovenia's Monika Simkova & red-shirt soph Ashley Anselmo who will challenge for an OH or Opp role. Team McKienzie-Fuerbringer have only had about 4 weeks so far to evaluate all the options available to prepare for the slew of hitters coming in, and the competition on the pins will be fierce. Although 5 players left, in essence Long Beach should experience a distinct upgrade in talent and buy-in with the changeovers. LB will have the right leadership in place for a transition year to set examples with the physical presence and attitude Murray brings along with the dynamic athletic force and personality that is Hailey Harward. Which brings us to the coaching. Here the contrast with the Hawaii situation is worlds apart. Whereas Ah Mow-Santos had 6 months to prepare and fewer player turnover, Joy McKinezie-Fuerbringer has probably the biggest professional challenge in D1 volleyball this year. There's no doubt the coaching background and pedigree is a perfect fit. Still She's got two days left to prepare, after having about 4 weeks to decide what elements of the BG system to use, plus she's got a full-time side gig owning a VB club, and then doing this all from a home-base of Hermosa - they might be better off living in a Winnebago next to the Pyramid for this season, you do the math. for LB to be successful Team McKinezie-Fuerbringer focus and delivery to the players is gonna be a challenge, and they may not get to sleep until mid-December. Retaining Mike Campbell on staff will help bridge the gap, and frankly, a different delivery/messenger may help rejuvinate the Beach program. LB faithful want to see the same brand of Volleyball BG preached (pass faster, set quicker, terminate faster than your opponent - just requires precision). If Team McKinezie-Fuerbringer can navigate the transition, keep the best of BG's teaching attributes, and put the pieces together, Long Beach could be primed for a run at the conference title. It'll be an adventure, that's for sure. They will be fine. I think that was what they needed a good setter, they will definitely have the most physical middles in the conference. As we all know, never count the Beach out, they give so many teams fits.
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Aug 5, 2017 13:43:15 GMT -5
Team Breakdowns by Home State: for Calif purposes of this thread, dividing line between NorCal & Socal is the Monterey/SLO county line and the Fresno/Kings-Tulare County line.
Cal Poly: Norcal: 4 San Diego: 4 SoCal: 2 Colorado: 1 Texas: 1 Nevada: 1
Hawaii:
Hawaii: 5 Norcal: 2 San Diego: 2 SoCal: 7 Canada: 2
Long Beach:
Norcal: 1 SoCal: 5 Arizona: 2 Nevada: 1 China: 1 Serbia: 1 Bulgaria: 1 Czech Republic: 1 Slovakia: 1 (wonder how Czech & Slovakia will get along? ) Norway: 1 Lativa: 1
UC Isla Vista:
Note, Hannah Juley is officially off the player roster, bummer for UCIV also, long-time Welch assistant @ both Miami & UCIV Kolby O'Donnell left UCIV for Louisville
San Diego: 2 Norcal: 1 SoCal: 10 Virginia: 1 Italy: 1
Northridge:
Hawaii: 1 Norcal: 1 SoCal: 8 Arizona: 1 Florida: 1 Serbia: 1
UC Irvine:
NorCal: 7 SoCal: 10
Davis:
Norcal: SoCal: 9 NorCal: 7 Arizona: 1 Oregon: 1 New York: 1
Fullerton:
San Diego: 1 SoCal: 7 Nevada: 2 Texas: 2 Kansas: 1 Canada: 1 South Carolina: 1
Riverside:
Hawaii: 1 Norcal: 4 San Diego: 2 SoCal: 9 Washington: 1 Illinois: 1
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Post by gouci on Aug 5, 2017 16:01:02 GMT -5
Nice to see the conference recruiting more out of state players.
This may be the most out of state players the Big West overall has had in a long time.
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Aug 5, 2017 16:14:20 GMT -5
I think the surprising statistic (to me at least) was that in the entire conference there are only 7 players from Hawaii total - I expected a few more on the Hawaii team, and would think other teams could recruit Hawaii as well as the players would get to play back in Hawaii each season
VB is big on the islands, even if the overall population is small - I don't know how many Hawaii players there are in the Pac-12.
The other surprising thing was 10 countries represented - of course that was driven by Long Beach mostly, BG obviously having a tough time to get talent in California and went the foreign route last few years, and have to wonder if that entered into his decision. Over time, Long Beach lost the ability to get the top African-American players as other programs caught on. Next year, unless something changes with the two commits, Long Beach will not have an African-American player on the roster for the first time since the mid-80s after Murray graduates.
27 players from NorCal - was also a little surprised how many coming from Norcal, didn't expect many other than Poly & Davis, based on local and Poly's NorCal coaching ties
NorCal: 27 SoCal: 67 San Diego: 11
as expected, the league is dominated by California girls.
then:
Hawaii, Arizona, Nevada, & Texas the next big group
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Post by newbeach on Aug 5, 2017 17:03:15 GMT -5
I think the surprising statistic (to me at least) was that in the entire conference there are only 7 players from Hawaii total - I expected a few more on the Hawaii team, and would think other teams could recruit Hawaii as well as the players would get to play back in Hawaii each season VB is big on the islands, even if the overall population is small - I don't know how many Hawaii players there are in the Pac-12. The other surprising thing was 10 countries represented - of course that was driven by Long Beach mostly, BG obviously having a tough time to get talent in California and went the foreign route last few years, and have to wonder if that entered into his decision. Over time, Long Beach lost the ability to get the top African-American players as other programs caught on. Next year, unless something changes with the two commits, Long Beach will not have an African-American player on the roster for the first time since the mid-80s after Murray graduates. 27 players from NorCal - was also a little surprised how many coming from Norcal, didn't expect many other than Poly & Davis, based on local and Poly's NorCal coaching ties NorCal: 27 SoCal: 67 San Diego: 11 as expected, the league is dominated by California girls. then: Hawaii, Arizona, Nevada, & Texas the next big group UH just lost 3 seniors that were from Hawai'i (Taylor, Higgins and Ponce), so less local girls this year. Several local girls playing elsewhere in NCAA.
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Post by SmokeDogg on Aug 5, 2017 18:40:25 GMT -5
I hope they graduated!
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Post by newbeach on Aug 5, 2017 22:21:05 GMT -5
Oops! Yes, they graduated. I should have been more explicit!
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Post by gigibear on Aug 6, 2017 21:06:46 GMT -5
Having watched a few UH games, my conclusion is they are overrated. Yes, they are trained in Hawaii...but they have not out powered a top-team, like slam them to the ground. Big West is volatile but compared to the PAC12 they are weak. Not sure why the conversation is about them being at the top. Sorry Setter Iosia went there, but guess family ties are a factor.
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Aug 6, 2017 21:18:54 GMT -5
Having watched a few UH games, my conclusion is they are overrated. Yes, they are trained in Hawaii...but they have not out powered a top-team, like slam them to the ground. Big West is volatile but compared to the PAC12 they are weak. Not sure why the conversation is about them being at the top. Sorry Setter Iosia went there, but guess family ties are a factor. this makes no sense. overrated compared to what? they beat Arizona & USC last year - so Iosia should have gone to USC or Arizona instead?? lol hey, maybe Hawaii & the Big West should just give up Volleyball !! for that matter, maybe everybody but the Big 10, Pac-12, & Texas should give up volleyball, because if you aren't one of those 3 you must be overrated!
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