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Post by Reach on Nov 26, 2017 9:42:53 GMT -5
Who are the Olympians he has coached? Kelly Murphy and Kelsey Robinson Sean Rooney & Thomas Jaeschke
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Post by silverbullet on Nov 26, 2017 11:12:38 GMT -5
To me, the parallel to Roy Moore is striking here. Supporters holding their noses because he is apparently good at what he does professionally. And perhaps feeling that while the accusations may hold truth, he has paid restitution in the form of damage to his reputation while enabling thousands of girls to achieve great success on the court over the past 20 years.
Anyway, this is a troubling and complicated situation. I would just like to understand what would make it right to the victims at this point. Please pardon my ignorance, I am not up to speed and some of the comments confuse me.
Is Butler still coaching girls in any way? Also, what is being suggested as punishment? Is it a ban from all volleyball activities (sports in general?) in any capacity, on or off the court? Or that and something more?
From other previous threads, I thought this guy was semi-retired and basically disengaged but then the mention of private training of seniors? Even if they did ban him everywhere for everything, If parents still choose to send their kids to live wth him for private training purposes, what then?
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Post by swimrowvball on Nov 26, 2017 11:32:19 GMT -5
To me, the parallel to Roy Moore is striking here. Supporters holding their noses because he is apparently good at what he does professionally. And perhaps feeling that while the accusations may hold truth, he has paid restitution in the form of damage to his reputation while enabling thousands of girls to achieve great success on the court over the past 20 years. Anyway, this is a troubling and complicated situation. I would just like to understand what would make it right to the victims at this point. Please pardon my ignorance, I am not up to speed and some of the comments confuse me. Is Butler still coaching girls in any way? Also, what is being suggested as punishment? Is it a ban from all volleyball activities (sports in general?) in any capacity, on or off the court? Or that and something more? From other previous threads, I thought this guy was semi-retired and basically disengaged but then the mention of private training of seniors? Even if they did ban him everywhere for everything, If parents still choose to send their kids to live wth him for private training purposes, what then? He is the “Master Coach” for the 18s age group and also helps Cheryl out with girls as young as kindergarten.
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Post by gbwparent on Nov 26, 2017 11:52:34 GMT -5
Kelly Murphy and Kelsey Robinson Sean Rooney & Thomas Jaeschke Rick doesn't coach in the boys program. Just ask Sean and Thomas.
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Post by fetchin on Nov 26, 2017 11:56:19 GMT -5
I find it disturbing he is still coaching underage girls if he was in any other profession involving minors he would have been completely shunned(except probably acting yikes)
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Post by Reach on Nov 26, 2017 13:35:41 GMT -5
Sean Rooney & Thomas Jaeschke Rick doesn't coach in the boys program. Just ask Sean and Thomas. I'm well aware of what Rick does. It's his club, building and training methods. The head coaches for the Boys Program has changed over the years... R & C are always there regardless.
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Post by veritas on Nov 26, 2017 15:10:02 GMT -5
One of your long time posters had his account revoked by admin here about a year ago for going after Butler and bringing into the discussion the names of people that supported him and still worked with him. Hope that doesnt happen here. Who was that? News to me. Truth.
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Post by ProfessorPlum on Nov 26, 2017 15:18:28 GMT -5
SportsPerformance supporters will lay low for a few days and then we will see the normal deflections and attack the victim stuff from them. I’ve been attacked on here and PVB numerous times over the years for linking RB & SportsPerformance supporters (parents and players) together. But that is how he survives. The volleyball community of ChicagoLand (coaches/parents & yes ex-players) have to be held accountable for supporting this guy. They should wear a scarlet letter! Because they don’t and therefore he survives! Have Addidas ask Carlini why she openly supports this guy? Start there. Have a reporter ask her at an addidas sponsored press conference next time she’s hyping a new shoe. That will get some movement! I was shocked to read that Illinois freshman Marjike Van Dyke graduated early and went to train with them. Why not enroll early at U of I?? That seems strange to me. Stranger yet was his courtside attendance of some of her UoI matches.
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Post by Hawk Attack on Nov 26, 2017 15:21:33 GMT -5
I was shocked to read that Illinois freshman Marjike Van Dyke graduated early and went to train with them. Why not enroll early at U of I?? That seems strange to me. Stranger yet was his courtside attendance of some of her UoI matches. How is that strange?
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Post by vbprisoner on Nov 26, 2017 15:31:51 GMT -5
I find it disturbing he is still coaching underage girls if he was in any other profession involving minors he would have been completely shunned(except probably acting yikes) I find it disturbing he is still coaching at all! Shame on all of the people still supporting him.
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Post by ProfessorPlum on Nov 26, 2017 15:33:01 GMT -5
Stranger yet was his courtside attendance of some of her UoI matches. How is that strange? Based on his prior issues and the above detail of how he handles his seniors/prey it’s strange. Stranger that one match was in Minnesota!
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Post by Hawk Attack on Nov 26, 2017 15:37:31 GMT -5
Based on his prior issues and the above detail of how he handles his seniors/prey it’s strange. Stranger that one match was in Minnesota! The Van Dykes are on record saying they would joke about the Butlers being second parents to their daughter, and there’s two former SPRI players at Minnesota. That seems rather judgmental for someone who doesn’t know the relationship between any of the involved before quoting it as “strange”.
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Post by ProfessorPlum on Nov 26, 2017 15:44:13 GMT -5
Based on his prior issues and the above detail of how he handles his seniors/prey it’s strange. Stranger that one match was in Minnesota! The Van Dykes are on record saying they would joke about the Butlers being second parents to their daughter, and there’s two former SPRI players at Minnesota. That seems rather judgmental for someone who doesn’t know the relationship between any of the involved before quoting it as “strange”. Here we go with one of his long time supporters! You’re part of the problem! And, yes, put me in the judgemental category!
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Post by ProfessorPlum on Nov 26, 2017 15:47:17 GMT -5
Why are parents still supporting this club? I don’t know? Maybe Hawk Attack can quit playing in the shadows and tell us why?
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Post by Hawk Attack on Nov 26, 2017 15:52:21 GMT -5
The Van Dykes are on record saying they would joke about the Butlers being second parents to their daughter, and there’s two former SPRI players at Minnesota. That seems rather judgmental for someone who doesn’t know the relationship between any of the involved before quoting it as “strange”. Here we go with one of his long time supporters! You’re part of the problem! And, yes, put me in the judgemental category! That’s not a valid response to anything I said, but it is a good deflection.
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