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Post by ProfessorPlum on Nov 26, 2017 15:57:32 GMT -5
Here we go with one of his long time supporters! You’re part of the problem! And, yes, put me in the judgemental category! That’s not a valid response to anything I said, but it is a good deflection. I don’t have to answer any questions regarding my comments that are asked by someone who supports this person on a consistent basis. I think it’s strange. I explained why based on his past and how the previous poster framed his recent actions. I owe nothing more than that to someone who continues to support him despite overwhelming evidence. You’re sick!
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Post by ProfessorPlum on Nov 26, 2017 15:58:51 GMT -5
Why are parents still supporting this club? I don’t know? Maybe Hawk Attack can quit playing in the shadows and tell us why? Still waiting on your answer to this HawkAttack(Butler Supporter)?
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Post by Hawk Attack on Nov 26, 2017 16:03:09 GMT -5
That’s not a valid response to anything I said, but it is a good deflection. I don’t have to answer any questions regarding my comments that are asked by someone who supports this person on a consistent basis. I think it’s strange. I explained why based on his past and how the previous poster framed his recent actions. I owe nothing more than that to someone who continues to support him despite overwhelming evidence. You’re sick! Alright fine, then you think it’s strange and explained your reasons why, and I don’t think it’s strange and explained my reasons why. I don’t considerably appreciate the personal attack but that’s fine too.
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Post by ilalum92 on Nov 26, 2017 16:08:52 GMT -5
I don’t have to answer any questions regarding my comments that are asked by someone who supports this person on a consistent basis. I think it’s strange. I explained why based on his past and how the previous poster framed his recent actions. I owe nothing more than that to someone who continues to support him despite overwhelming evidence. You’re sick! Alright fine, then you think it’s strange and explained your reasons why, and I don’t think it’s strange and explained my reasons why. I don’t considerably appreciate the personal attack but that’s fine too. Do you not find it odd that a student graduates early from H.S. and instead of enrolling early in the college of her choice (which is not that much farther away from her home) she chooses to move in with her club coach and train? What is the benefit of that? Why not get a jump start on your college education and get a start learning the college system? It might have helped her earn a starting spot this year instead of sitting on the bench.
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Post by Hawk Attack on Nov 26, 2017 16:16:08 GMT -5
Alright fine, then you think it’s strange and explained your reasons why, and I don’t think it’s strange and explained my reasons why. I don’t considerably appreciate the personal attack but that’s fine too. Do you not find it odd that a student graduates early from H.S. and instead of enrolling early in the college of her choice (which is not that much farther away from her home) she chooses to move in with her club coach and train? What is the benefit of that? Why not get a jump start on your college education and get a start learning the college system? It might have helped her earn a starting spot this year instead of sitting on the bench. No I don’t find her situation odd, at all.
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Post by ilalum92 on Nov 26, 2017 16:18:29 GMT -5
Do you not find it odd that a student graduates early from H.S. and instead of enrolling early in the college of her choice (which is not that much farther away from her home) she chooses to move in with her club coach and train? What is the benefit of that? Why not get a jump start on your college education and get a start learning the college system? It might have helped her earn a starting spot this year instead of sitting on the bench. No I don’t find her situation odd, at all. see Dana Retke & Sydney Hilley at Wisconsin..
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Post by Hawk Attack on Nov 26, 2017 16:23:48 GMT -5
No I don’t find her situation odd, at all. see Dana Retke & Sydney Hilley at Wisconsin.. And that worked out great for them and they’ve had a pretty fantastic start to their college careers. I don’t think it’s odd that Van Dyke didn’t come to Illinois early.
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Post by n00b on Nov 26, 2017 16:28:51 GMT -5
Alright fine, then you think it’s strange and explained your reasons why, and I don’t think it’s strange and explained my reasons why. I don’t considerably appreciate the personal attack but that’s fine too. Do you not find it odd that a student graduates early from H.S. and instead of enrolling early in the college of her choice (which is not that much farther away from her home) she chooses to move in with her club coach and train? What is the benefit of that? Why not get a jump start on your college education and get a start learning the college system? It might have helped her earn a starting spot this year instead of sitting on the bench. Quite honestly, she was able to play a LOT more volleyball with SPVB than she would've with Illinois in the spring. No 8 hours/week limit early in the spring. No 20 hours/week limit late in the spring. No dead time in December and January. No dead time in May and June. Plus you get real chances to compete. There are VERY real issues around Butler and SPVB that deserve to be talked about. I think it does nothing but hurt the case to bring up extraneous events as terrible things. A former club coach going and sitting in the front row to several of her matches? That is a very very normal thing. Graduating early and only doing SPVB for a spring isn't normal but I also understand it. Stick to the actual illegal/immoral/unethical stuff.
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Post by bigfan on Nov 26, 2017 16:46:02 GMT -5
One of your long time posters had his account revoked by admin here about a year ago for going after Butler and bringing into the discussion the names of people that supported him and still worked with him. Hope that doesnt happen here. I plan to provide this article to every High School AD in the Chicagoland area whom I know work with Butler. That should be interesting. Well done..................trying to protect people.
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Post by bigfan on Nov 26, 2017 16:46:57 GMT -5
One of your long time posters had his account revoked by admin here about a year ago for going after Butler and bringing into the discussion the names of people that supported him and still worked with him. Hope that doesnt happen here. Who was that? News to me. news to me too.
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Post by veritas on Nov 26, 2017 17:06:11 GMT -5
Who was that? News to me. news to me too. TruthandJustice was the name. Got it wrong the first time, sorry.
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Post by ilalum92 on Nov 26, 2017 17:42:26 GMT -5
Do you not find it odd that a student graduates early from H.S. and instead of enrolling early in the college of her choice (which is not that much farther away from her home) she chooses to move in with her club coach and train? What is the benefit of that? Why not get a jump start on your college education and get a start learning the college system? It might have helped her earn a starting spot this year instead of sitting on the bench. Quite honestly, she was able to play a LOT more volleyball with SPVB than she would've with Illinois in the spring. No 8 hours/week limit early in the spring. No 20 hours/week limit late in the spring. No dead time in December and January. No dead time in May and June. Plus you get real chances to compete. There are VERY real issues around Butler and SPVB that deserve to be talked about. I think it does nothing but hurt the case to bring up extraneous events as terrible things. A former club coach going and sitting in the front row to several of her matches? That is a very very normal thing. Graduating early and only doing SPVB for a spring isn't normal but I also understand it. Stick to the actual illegal/immoral/unethical stuff. You say there are very real issues around Butler & SPVB yet you also say good for her for graduating early & moving in with the coach to train. Contradictory statements?? and as I said before see Dana Retke & Sydney Hilley as to how graduating early and participating in spring practice helps.
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Post by Phaedrus on Nov 26, 2017 18:45:00 GMT -5
The cover of the Chicago Sun-Times today.
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Post by n00b on Nov 26, 2017 19:10:22 GMT -5
Quite honestly, she was able to play a LOT more volleyball with SPVB than she would've with Illinois in the spring. No 8 hours/week limit early in the spring. No 20 hours/week limit late in the spring. No dead time in December and January. No dead time in May and June. Plus you get real chances to compete. There are VERY real issues around Butler and SPVB that deserve to be talked about. I think it does nothing but hurt the case to bring up extraneous events as terrible things. A former club coach going and sitting in the front row to several of her matches? That is a very very normal thing. Graduating early and only doing SPVB for a spring isn't normal but I also understand it. Stick to the actual illegal/immoral/unethical stuff. You say there are very real issues around Butler & SPVB yet you also say good for her for graduating early & moving in with the coach to train. Contradictory statements?? and as I said before see Dana Retke & Sydney Hilley as to how graduating early and participating in spring practice helps. How are those contradictory statements? He has done bad things. This is not one of them. Do we know Illinois even had a scholarship available for her to come early?
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Post by bigfan on Nov 26, 2017 19:37:56 GMT -5
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