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Post by WahineFan44 on Dec 3, 2017 19:23:04 GMT -5
Assuming ross gets a scholorship, and so does casteneda, we have 3 scholorships to give. Theyll for sure be looking for a pin and possibly a middle. I say go for 2 pins and a libero Isn't Kamalei Krug (MB/OPP?) still walking on for next season? Yeah, thats why I didn't include her. Was mainly including players with a scholarship.
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Post by Courtside5 on Dec 3, 2017 19:38:56 GMT -5
We need big physical type players period! 6’2” , 6’3” , 6’4” players with dominance at the pins. Sorry Casey..... Had such high hopes for her but just don’t see it happening. Sibley’s also not the answer.
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Post by dd2000 on Dec 3, 2017 19:56:45 GMT -5
We need big physical type players period! 6’2” , 6’3” , 6’4” players with dominance at the pins. Sorry Casey..... Had such high hopes for her but just don’t see it happening. Sibley’s also not the answer. We've all seen decent juniors turn into fantastic seniors. Could happen with Casey.
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Post by newbeach on Dec 3, 2017 21:43:15 GMT -5
No, not defensive. I am just pointing out that I believe (whether in the minority or not), that Sibley has potential and was not given the opportunity to prove herself. ( a lot of people believed in her when she was recruited and as a freshman last year) I also believed in Burns when the majority did not. It's just my opinion. As far as understanding the importance of work ethic, I fully understand what it means and its importance. My point. Is that some coaches put more emphasis on fitness over other skills. Shoji for example, was less concerned with whether or not a player finished last in a run. Again, it's the coaches prerogative to choose the culture they want to create but that doesn't necessarily negate a player's worth or value. Also, to be clear, I am not saying Sibley has a poor work ethic. She showed up to camp a little out of shape (sometimes there are reasons such as injury etc.) and she never worked her way into the line up. That doesn't mean she doesn't have potential. IMO It's not about finishing first or last it's about the effort and work you are willing to put in...some people are just faster than others, some are just better than others...if you finish last and still put all your heart and effort you will get that playing time, so again it's not about finishing first or last it's about the effort and work you are willing to put in and the improvements you make. If you finish last and not putting in the effort than yes you deserve to sit and not play. And I'm sure that's what Robyn is looking for, those that will put in the work and effort as she stated from the get go she is looking for girls that will work hard and put in their best every day at practice Secondly I didn't say that Sibley didn't have potential, I'm saying that there are other girls in front of her that is making more of a difference and impact than she is... In no way do I have anything against Sibley and IMO she is just behind the other girls that are getting playing time...and maybe she should've gotten more chances or playing time but who are we to make that call especially when we are not at practice everyday seeing what Robyn and the rest of the coaching staff sees First of all, I was responding to Wolfgang questions that were put out for discussion not making "calls" for the coaching staff. Secondly, I realize that I was the one that stated I thought Sibley had potential. I was not presuming in any way that you believed that she did or did not have potential. With regards to your comment that if you "finish last and still out your heart and effort into it you will get playing time" that may be or may not be true (evidently that is your philosophy). Is playing time based on putting effort into the fitness runs or is it based on skill level and other factors? I am saying some coaches put more weight on fitness levels and effort over skill more than other coaches. My opinion is that Shoji did not put as much weight into it as the current staff. Sibley was not Robyn's recruit and the culture is different. Perhaps Sibley doesn't fit into the current culture? I can't say for sure, but I am saying that just because she is not currently getting playing time, does not necessarily mean that someone else is better or has more potential. Another coach may see it differently.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2017 22:12:12 GMT -5
Hmmm....UH really needs to focus on 3 things: !). a decent transfer OH; 2) the 2019 incoming recruits (inc. an OH/OPP); and 3). replacing that pilau Tiff Wells on the radio!
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Post by Boom! on Dec 3, 2017 22:13:44 GMT -5
The loss of Maglio, and the lack of any players even close to approaching her level has got to be a major concern for the Hawai'i coaches and fans, in particular, the lack of consistent, offensive production has got to be worrying.
Maybe it was disappointing by historical Hawai'i standards, but this team made a good showing. Robyn and the team deserve credit for taking care of business in conference and maintaining the RPI needed. On the other hand, it seems to me that Robyn's hard-nosed style may impact her ability to recruit at maximum effectiveness. Frankly, she's probably scary to a lot of 16-18 year olds. It's clear from the comments by the players that they had to get used to Robyn's style, and eventually did and came to appreciate it, but it is risky to rely on getting only recruits who respond to that kind of toughness.
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Post by wang pu on Dec 3, 2017 22:20:02 GMT -5
We need big physical type players period! 6’2” , 6’3” , 6’4” players with dominance at the pins. Sorry Casey..... Had such high hopes for her but just don’t see it happening. Sibley’s also not the answer. We've all seen decent juniors turn into fantastic seniors. Could happen with Casey. I feel that Casey lost two years being shuffled between positions. If she had trained as an outside from even last year, she would’ve been better this year.
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Post by koavball on Dec 3, 2017 22:29:49 GMT -5
We've all seen decent juniors turn into fantastic seniors. Could happen with Casey. I feel that Casey lost two years being shuffled between positions. If she had trained as an outside from even last year, she would’ve been better this year. Possibly but Mitchem and Hartong before her, never had that issue, when you are good you are good.
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Post by koavball on Dec 3, 2017 22:31:55 GMT -5
The loss of Maglio, and the lack of any players even close to approaching her level has got to be a major concern for the Hawai'i coaches and fans, in particular, the lack of consistent, offensive production has got to be worrying. Maybe it was disappointing by historical Hawai'i standards, but this team made a good showing. Robyn and the team deserve credit for taking care of business in conference and maintaining the RPI needed. On the other hand, it seems to me that Robyn's hard-nosed style may impact her ability to recruit at maximum effectiveness. Frankly, she's probably scary to a lot of 16-18 year olds. It's clear from the comments by the players that they had to get used to Robyn's style, and eventually did and came to appreciate it, but it is risky to rely on getting only recruits who respond to that kind of toughness. It is a huge concern I could see RAMS taking a transfer middle blocker in case Williams and Howling aren't at the level they need yet next season. It was just one match but Natasha Burns really outplayed Bastianelli and Omazic from Illinois, she just needs to work on her block.
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Post by wang pu on Dec 3, 2017 22:41:07 GMT -5
The loss of Maglio, and the lack of any players even close to approaching her level has got to be a major concern for the Hawai'i coaches and fans, in particular, the lack of consistent, offensive production has got to be worrying. Maybe it was disappointing by historical Hawai'i standards, but this team made a good showing. Robyn and the team deserve credit for taking care of business in conference and maintaining the RPI needed. On the other hand, it seems to me that Robyn's hard-nosed style may impact her ability to recruit at maximum effectiveness. Frankly, she's probably scary to a lot of 16-18 year olds. It's clear from the comments by the players that they had to get used to Robyn's style, and eventually did and came to appreciate it, but it is risky to rely on getting only recruits who respond to that kind of toughness. It is a huge concern I could see RAMS taking a transfer middle blocker in case Williams and Howling aren't at the level they need yet next season. It was just one match but Natasha Burns really outplayed Bastianelli and Omazic from Illinois, she just needs to work on her block. Burns does need work on her block and footwork/agility. Just learning to move in a 6’5” body does take work. She hasn’t really had a full year of not being injured.
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Post by rainbowcard on Dec 3, 2017 23:57:14 GMT -5
We need big physical type players period! 6’2” , 6’3” , 6’4” players with dominance at the pins. Sorry Casey..... Had such high hopes for her but just don’t see it happening. Sibley’s also not the answer. Agreed, we need taller players. As RAMS said in the press conference that their average height on the court was 5'9 that night they lost to Illinois. I mean we could all say Hawaii needs a Plummer and that would be the answer but it's really more than just that, a lot of things need to click with the loss of so many seniors, especially losing one of the best blockers in the country. I personally am not too hyped over Casey and Sibley although I have seen both have some really good games, but not this season imo
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Post by Wolfgang on Dec 4, 2017 0:17:23 GMT -5
I'm worried about next season. No consistent terminator, no libero-in-training from this season, no Maglio-like middle.
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Post by skeleton on Dec 4, 2017 1:23:17 GMT -5
I'm worried about next season. No consistent terminator, no libero-in-training from this season, no Maglio-like middle. Losing AA Maglio, the team will definitely be weaker next year. Granato will be Granato, Iosia will be Iosia but unless we get a big time transfer, Wahine will be in for a much tougher season.
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Post by skeleton on Dec 4, 2017 1:35:53 GMT -5
We've all seen decent juniors turn into fantastic seniors. Could happen with Casey. I feel that Casey lost two years being shuffled between positions. If she had trained as an outside from even last year, she would’ve been better this year. Casey has been shuffled around too much but if Trinity is a 6 rotation player, Casey should be moved to the right. Her passing was a liability this season.
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Post by WahineFan44 on Dec 4, 2017 1:36:58 GMT -5
I'm worried about next season. No consistent terminator, no libero-in-training from this season, no Maglio-like middle. Losing AA Maglio, the team will definitely be weaker next year. Granato will be Granato, Iosia will be Iosia but unless we get a big time transfer, Wahine will be in for a much tougher season. I think we will be fine, IMO, there is absolutely NO WAY we dont get some sort of impact transfer, with the scholarships we have available. Even if its a grad transfer.
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