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Post by VBSH 2 on Dec 6, 2017 14:38:36 GMT -5
Anybody know much about it? Format and how many college coaches attend?
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Post by teamjess on Dec 6, 2017 15:34:03 GMT -5
Anybody know much about it? Format and how many college coaches attend? It seemed like last year there were quite a few, many of them are in town for the SCVA Holiday tournament and have a high regard for Travis Turner.
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Post by VBSH 2 on Dec 6, 2017 16:34:20 GMT -5
Do you follow (or does anybody) JC Mens st all? Son is playing, and trying to guage what level it is and if colleges are really looking.
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Post by Volleyfan024 on Dec 6, 2017 17:11:23 GMT -5
Do you follow (or does anybody) JC Mens st all? Son is playing, and trying to guage what level it is and if colleges are really looking. Typically around 40 schools there ranging from D1 to NAIA. Good exposure for players, especially now that teams can actually go out and play each other instead of intersquad scrimmages only.
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Post by Scipio Aemilianus on Dec 7, 2017 0:29:58 GMT -5
Anybody know much about it? Format and how many college coaches attend? It seemed like last year there were quite a few, many of them are in town for the SCVA Holiday tournament and have a high regard for Travis Turner. There will be quite a few this year as well. The talent level at the SoCal JuCo's is very very high. Some great players just with something holding them back (finances, grades, maturity, development/proper coaching). And if you have heard of Balboa Bay Volleyball Club, you should probably hold Travis Turner in high regard.
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Post by vbc1 on Dec 8, 2017 7:38:39 GMT -5
Every year a good number of JC MVB athletes bounce on to a 4 year program, across the DI/II/II/NAIA spectrum. Suhdude is correct: Lots of players choose the JC route because of various reasons mentioned above. Not bad kids, just some challenges that they try to overcome for a year or two. The top 3-4 teams each year can fluctuate on who is better, which creates good parity year to year. There are some great coaches in that league that have been doing it for a long time. Travis is one of them, who absolutely does it for the right reasons, and does a great job with getting the word out about not only his guys, but others as well on different teams, which is why this tournament is attended by many 4 year college coaches.
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Post by VBSH 2 on Dec 8, 2017 13:49:42 GMT -5
Every year a good number of JC MVB athletes bounce on to a 4 year program, across the DI/II/II/NAIA spectrum. Suhdude is correct: Lots of players choose the JC route because of various reasons mentioned above. Not bad kids, just some challenges that they try to overcome for a year or two. The top 3-4 teams each year can fluctuate on who is better, which creates good parity year to year. There are some great coaches in that league that have been doing it for a long time. Travis is one of them, who absolutely does it for the right reasons, and does a great job with getting the word out about not only his guys, but others as well on different teams, which is why this tournament is attended by many 4 year college coaches. I guess it would be hard to gauge which teams will be good each year? Top fr have a good chance to leave etc. I saw Pierce play and they are as big as many D1 schools.
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Post by teamjess on Dec 8, 2017 14:42:52 GMT -5
Every year a good number of JC MVB athletes bounce on to a 4 year program, across the DI/II/II/NAIA spectrum. Suhdude is correct: Lots of players choose the JC route because of various reasons mentioned above. Not bad kids, just some challenges that they try to overcome for a year or two. The top 3-4 teams each year can fluctuate on who is better, which creates good parity year to year. There are some great coaches in that league that have been doing it for a long time. Travis is one of them, who absolutely does it for the right reasons, and does a great job with getting the word out about not only his guys, but others as well on different teams, which is why this tournament is attended by many 4 year college coaches. I guess it would be hard to gauge which teams will be good each year? Top fr have a good chance to leave etc. I saw Pierce play and they are as big as many D1 schools. I don't think the top freshman necessarily leave after their freshman year. If men's volleyball offered full scholarships then maybe - but since many of them are their to avoid the high cost of a four year college - they will stay through their soph year - choosing to take advantage of the cost of attending a community/junior college in CA vs a 4 year college.
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Post by VBSH 2 on Dec 13, 2017 14:49:34 GMT -5
I guess it would be hard to gauge which teams will be good each year? Top fr have a good chance to leave etc. I saw Pierce play and they are as big as many D1 schools. I don't think the top freshman necessarily leave after their freshman year. If men's volleyball offered full scholarships then maybe - but since many of them are their to avoid the high cost of a four year college - they will stay through their soph year - choosing to take advantage of the cost of attending a community/junior college in CA vs a 4 year college. Was looking at last year's teams. The big middles from Irvine Valley and OCC committed to Hawaii and UCLA and the libero from OCC were all fr. I think the soph outside from OCC went to Concordia. I am sure there were a few others that signed with smaller colleges also. I didn't follow JCs close enough to know if any standout players stayed for a second year that played last year.
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Post by VBSH 2 on Dec 15, 2017 23:22:17 GMT -5
Was at the showcase. Some good talent. Mat August of Irvine Valley is solid. Trent Williams from Cal Baptist was playing for Irvine and Brett Norkus was playing for Pierce. Cole Chea was the most physical player in the gym, from Pierce. Pierce has the best setter also, not sure of his name. SMC Vecas Lewin (sp?) Is a big hitter. Moothart was huge for OCC. I know there were other standouts, but 4 courts at the same time is hard to watch everybody.
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Post by digs4days on Dec 15, 2017 23:50:07 GMT -5
Pierce is very physical. LBCC has some stud pins and very physical across the board. The talent in the setting position across all the teams was subpar but overall level in the gym was much higher than last season. OCC is good across the board but not great in any role. My pick is LBCC to win it all, by far the most complete team.
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Post by VBSH 2 on Dec 16, 2017 9:32:51 GMT -5
Pierce is very physical. LBCC has some stud pins and very physical across the board. The talent in the setting position across all the teams was subpar but overall level in the gym was much higher than last season. OCC is good across the board but not great in any role. My pick is LBCC to win it all, by far the most complete team. I am not sure about LBCC being the most complete team. Pierce destroyed LBCC in the 2nd and 3rd sets and Pierce's lefty OPPO did not play against them. Losing to Pierce 25-12 in the 2nd set was not a "complete" team. Also, Pierce does not start regular practices until after the 1st of January.
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Post by digs4days on Dec 16, 2017 13:59:22 GMT -5
Pierce is very physical. LBCC has some stud pins and very physical across the board. The talent in the setting position across all the teams was subpar but overall level in the gym was much higher than last season. OCC is good across the board but not great in any role. My pick is LBCC to win it all, by far the most complete team. I am not sure about LBCC being the most complete team. Pierce destroyed LBCC in the 2nd and 3rd sets and Pierce's lefty OPPO did not play against them. Losing to Pierce 25-12 in the 2nd set was not a "complete" team. Also, Pierce does not start regular practices until after the 1st of January. Not sure if you noticed but LBCC had their full roster split in 2.... Pierce played with their actual lineup, so using the fact that Pierce beat LBCC doesn't really make sense since half of their starters were on the other team. If you put pieces together from both LBCC teams (since it was a mixed roster) they are much more complete than Pierce.
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Post by VBSH 2 on Dec 16, 2017 14:08:47 GMT -5
I am not sure about LBCC being the most complete team. Pierce destroyed LBCC in the 2nd and 3rd sets and Pierce's lefty OPPO did not play against them. Losing to Pierce 25-12 in the 2nd set was not a "complete" team. Also, Pierce does not start regular practices until after the 1st of January. Not sure if you noticed but LBCC had their full roster split in 2.... Pierce played with their actual lineup, so using the fact that Pierce beat LBCC doesn't really make sense since half of their starters were on the other team. If you put pieces together from both LBCC teams (since it was a mixed roster) they are much more complete than Pierce. but losing to a team 25-12 and saying that the losing team is the most complete team is lame. They lost by a bunch with Pierce not having their starting their oppo. They also lost to a team that practices once a week 25-12.
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Post by digs4days on Dec 16, 2017 14:26:58 GMT -5
Not sure if you noticed but LBCC had their full roster split in 2.... Pierce played with their actual lineup, so using the fact that Pierce beat LBCC doesn't really make sense since half of their starters were on the other team. If you put pieces together from both LBCC teams (since it was a mixed roster) they are much more complete than Pierce. They lost to a team that practices once a week 25-12. So based on 1 set of volleyball with a mixed bag roster vs a full roster that's how you make your judgement.... interesting... not saying Pierce won't be good but they are not as complete. Pins are just athletic but not polished, setter is big and "the best setter in the gym" (when none of the setting was that great), but the middle (Cole) is arguably the best. LBCC has solid middles, 2 polished Opps, and several polished OHs. I would put my money on Polsihed athletes over just big athletes any day of the week. Clearly you have some bias to Pierce.... but I am going off of no bias
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