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Post by rainbowbadger on Dec 9, 2017 19:03:52 GMT -5
Here's the tweet in question. It is ambiguous.
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Post by badgerbreath on Dec 9, 2017 19:14:35 GMT -5
They probably can't say if Whalen is a redshirt yet. That has to get approved by somebody, no? The season isn't even over yet.
Haggerty and Hart have not played so those are the two RS's we absolutely know about.
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Post by superfan1 on Dec 9, 2017 19:59:54 GMT -5
I would like to see Rettke develop a heavier arm swing Lutz seemed to pound tbe ball on the right, but she barely gets off the ground compared to Rettke. If Badgers go with a 3 middle offense with Hart, would we see Duello move down in the depth chart and possibly be a 3rd or fourth option on the left? That is where i fear we may be a bit thin in the next 2 years if Haggerty isn,t 100% or becomes reinjured. I still cringe having Dodge and Clark both on scholarship as liberos and ds. With so many injuries in sports, i think having nore depth in the hitting positions is more important. We never have a shortage of defensive specialists on the roster and will be adding 3 or 4 in 2019 depending on how Gregorski is utilized. side note :Prepvolleyball.com released a list of 250 2019 recruits that are in the running for their top 50 list to be released in january, and all 5 badger recruits were listed. I thing Gregorski is going to be the next Kellie Bates: a bit undersized but capable of being a solid contributor on the outside and solid in the backrow This seems a little pessimistic. Rettke has a hammer of an arm. If you want evidence, go back to that one back row attack she had against Neb. She's going to have to get used to having double or triple blocks against her next season so I'm hoping she works on her shot selection. It's not like the roster is completely empty hitters wise... Whalen, Wohlert, Hart, Rettke, Williams, Haggerty, Loberg are a very strong group of hitters. I know it seems like hitter insurance is more important, but if you've seen any of the teams this year who had to replace their liberos/had back row issues, then you know how bad it could be. Also considering that M.E. and Tiffany have both been injured over their careers, it's good that the Badgers have a strong replacement should one of them go down. Wisconsin had a very good match against an incredibly well rounded opponent in Stanford. I think if they had played any other team like that it would have been a sweep. If the Badgers can keep taking making all the little improvements they'll be a force next season.
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Post by TuesdayGone on Dec 9, 2017 21:25:35 GMT -5
The Badger Freshmen NCAA numbers
Rettke: .429%, 3.9 Kills/Set Loberg: .371% 4.4 Kills/Set Hilley: .438%, 13 Assists per set, 0.50 aces per set
Stanford Match:
Plummer: 22Kills/5 Errors/40 Attempts Loberg: 20 Kills/ 5 Errors/ 44 Attempts
Loberg had a fantastic NCAA tourney
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Post by badgerbreath on Dec 9, 2017 21:37:23 GMT -5
The Badger Freshmen NCAA numbers Rettke: .429%, 3.9 Kills/Set Loberg: .371% 4.4 Kills/Set Hilley: .438%, 13 Assists per set, 0.50 aces per set Stanford Match: Plummer: 22Kills/5 Errors/40 Attempts Loberg: 20 Kills/ 5 Errors/ 44 Attempts Loberg had a fantastic NCAA tourney Those are impressive numbers. I'll have to say, I barely recognized the Loberg that played in the NCAAs. She showed flashes before, but also a propensity to press, and a lack of integration into the team. It was like a sea change in her maturity. She just looked like she belonged out there. I've never seen a light switch on like that before. She had to have been practicing with the first team both weeks leading up to the matches.
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Post by ndodge on Dec 9, 2017 22:14:46 GMT -5
Loberg has had so much tourney experience before UW, in multiple sports, and success for that matter, that part of it is she maybe thrives in that atmosphere
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Post by Wiswell on Dec 10, 2017 9:23:58 GMT -5
Loberg has had so much tourney experience before UW, in multiple sports, and success for that matter, that part of it is she maybe thrives in that atmosphere When I was learning to drive stick shift many (many,many) years ago, it wasn't really clicking. Then one day I had to pick up my dad from the college and that was the only car available. It clicked on that very trip. And our town was hilly too. It's like she got a speech where KPS said, "there's you, and no other car (OH), and you have to drive it." BOOM. If you look at the season stats, it's kind of sad that every preposterous performance of our a freshmen was as part of a loss.
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Post by rainbowbadger on Dec 10, 2017 10:42:59 GMT -5
I am just so pleased with what Loberg did against that monster sized Stanford block. High hands, low seam, finding the edges, tooling away. It’s almost as if she’d been hitting against a 6-8 block in practice all year.
She impresses me so much. So many kids can take the attitude of “I’m on the scout team, I’m not gonna see the court,” and not work as hard, not continue to challenge for a spot during the season. Bates talked about how Loberg always worked really hard to prepare for every match, learning the scouting report and the game plan, practicing on her own, so she’d be ready if Sheff called her number. Remember she was Duello’s backup, too. So she had to learn the plan for and be ready to play two positions.
And remember: Loberg hasn’t had a spring yet. She’s gonna continue to improve, and we get to watch, and I’m so dang excited.
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Post by badgerbill on Dec 10, 2017 17:33:03 GMT -5
It is mentioned on a thread that Lutz touches 10'10". What is Rettke's touch? She seems to get off the ground much better than Lutz
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Post by TuesdayGone on Dec 10, 2017 18:13:23 GMT -5
Lutz actually has a very good vertical
Rettke moves better though
It isn’t how high you touch. It’s that the tall girls are always at a high point.
Bates might actually have a higher max touch than Rettke. But again that doesn’t really matter. The fact that Rettke can kill a ball standing flat footed is one reason shes so dangerous
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Post by badgerbreath on Dec 10, 2017 18:46:23 GMT -5
So, what do people think of Rettke moving to the right. It seems a waste of all that mobility we keep talking about. I'm not sure her blocking problems are really a physical limitation, but i dunno.
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Post by Wiswell on Dec 10, 2017 20:06:01 GMT -5
I suppose we will be debating this for the next 40 weeks. Huh, it's like a pregnancy with the birth being opening day roster! I would have hoped for a later conception date, though.
In my amateur view, it only makes sense if the sum offensive and blocking production between moving her to the right and adding Hart to MB is greater than the current sum. I just don't see her personally more productive. I also don't know if she ready for OOS; however, I don't know who is. Presumably Haggerty. Sadly, I keep forgetting about Haggerty. I suppose that keeps me more realistic.
At any rate I look forward to a 6'3, 6'8, 6'3 or 4 wall.
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Post by Wiswell on Dec 10, 2017 21:30:43 GMT -5
I know this is the wrong thread but it's still what I do at the end of the sesson: watch old videos.
I found the 2016 video, and wow, still sad about it after rewatching (and happy too in a lot of those moments). There are a lot of clips featuring Gillis and Bates so it is relevant to 2017 too. Two more gone from that video. :-(.
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Post by TuesdayGone on Dec 10, 2017 22:17:26 GMT -5
I suppose we will be debating this for the next 40 weeks. Huh, it's like a pregnancy with the birth being opening day roster! I would have hoped for a later conception date, though. In my amateur view, it only makes sense if the sum offensive and blocking production between moving her to the right and adding Hart to MB is greater than the current sum. I just don't see her personally more productive. I also don't know if she ready for OOS; however, I don't know who is. Presumably Haggerty. Sadly, I keep forgetting about Haggerty. I suppose that keeps me more realistic. At any rate I look forward to a 6'3, 6'8, 6'3 or 4 wall. My guess for next year: OH: Haggerty, Loberg (Duello) MH: Williams, Hart Opp: Rettke Setter: Hilley Libero: Clark DS: Dodge for Loberg (though i think Loberg can pass) DS: Amac/Dodd for Rettke People seem to forget that Hart was the #3 ranked Middle in the 2017 class. #1 Was Butler, #2 was Rettke
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Post by badgerbreath on Dec 10, 2017 22:34:53 GMT -5
I'm gonna say Rettke stays at middle and Hart goes right, if she can beat out Duello. Whalen covers on the left.
Bates has been a primary passer for a long time. The badgers will miss her, though Haggerty goes some way to filling that role. Loberg did fine in preseason when she played backrow, but she has an unusual style in serve receive. I don't know about her D.
Dodd impressed me early and then kind of fell away in the depth chart as the season went on. AMac started to work her way back in right at the end. The badgers will need to pass, so one of these two needs to step up. I'm not sure which will.
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