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Post by vbprisoner on Jan 5, 2018 11:44:21 GMT -5
LMAO, you won ToY for last year... you getting an early jump and trying to make it two consecutive years in a row? What am I doing that appears as if I'm campaigning? No campaigning necessary for ToY (VT Turkey of Year), I am just laughing at your strong debate over Thelen with Akbar and the PSU folks. It is the off season though...
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Post by #scoskers on Jan 5, 2018 11:51:11 GMT -5
Back it up, boo. You originally claimed she was recruited by RR to play on the pins: Thelen was always projected as a pin player, if I remember correctly. Knowledgeable Penn State fans debunked you, then you threw shade by saying that the discussion was angering PSU fans and that you were glad they left Vtalk. Pretty sure they were laughing at you and not groveling angrily as they continued to prove your original point wrong. Again, this quote from akbar: What Rose says: Heidi is projected as middle and I think her skills indicate that she is a really nice, natural blocker. If she gets up to the physical demands then she'll make a great contributions to the team. discussion over. 🙄
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2018 12:03:13 GMT -5
Back it up, boo. You originally claimed she was recruited by RR to play on the pins: Thelen was always projected as a pin player, if I remember correctly. Knowledgeable Penn State fans debunked you, then you threw shade by saying that the discussion was angering PSU fans and that you were glad they left Vtalk. Pretty sure they were laughing at you and not groveling angrily as they continued to prove your original point wrong. Again, this quote from akbar : What Rose says: Heidi is projected as middle and I think her skills indicate that she is a really nice, natural blocker. If she gets up to the physical demands then she'll make a great contributions to the team. discussion over. 🙄 "She was recruited by RR to play on the pins" (what you said I said) ≠ "Thelen was always projected as a pin player, if I remember correctly" (what I actually said) Again, for the final time, PrepVolleyball, Rich Kern, DigNittany, and PSU's own website listed Thelen as a MB/OH when reporting on the 2014 class. She was playing on a pin almost exclusively in her junior and senior prep seasons. But, sure. Debunked. I don't know what else to say.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2018 12:18:15 GMT -5
Back it up, boo. You originally claimed she was recruited by RR to play on the pins: Knowledgeable Penn State fans debunked you, then you threw shade by saying that the discussion was angering PSU fans and that you were glad they left Vtalk. Pretty sure they were laughing at you and not groveling angrily as they continued to prove your original point wrong. Again, this quote from akbar : "She was recruited by RR to play on the pins" (what you said I said) ≠ "Thelen was always projected as a pin player, if I remember correctly" (what I actually said) Again, for the final time, PrepVolleyball, Rich Kern, DigNittany, and PSU's own website listed Thelen as a MB/OH when reporting on the 2014 class. She was playing on a pin almost exclusively in her junior and senior prep seasons. But, sure. Debunked. I don't know what else to say. DigNittany's site listed her as a MB/OH because that's how PSU's roster listed her. But PSU's roster is consistently inaccurate on positions it lists for players, and DigNittany's Recruiting Matrix explicitly states the following: In one of our first articles about Heidi Thelen -- DigNittanyVolleyball.com on Heidi Thelen and Nia Reed -- we wrote the following: Note that we described her as an MB (because that's what she was) and also that we listed her at 6-3 (sadly, the pressure of a program like Penn State shrunk her to 6-2 by the time she graduated). I'm going with Coach Rose, and the MH/OH listing (which suggests MH was the likely spot, no?).
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Post by jengal on Jan 5, 2018 16:49:25 GMT -5
So...back to 2018 season...what do people project for the starting lineup?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2018 17:00:25 GMT -5
"She was recruited by RR to play on the pins" (what you said I said) ≠ "Thelen was always projected as a pin player, if I remember correctly" (what I actually said) Again, for the final time, PrepVolleyball, Rich Kern, DigNittany, and PSU's own website listed Thelen as a MB/OH when reporting on the 2014 class. She was playing on a pin almost exclusively in her junior and senior prep seasons. But, sure. Debunked. I don't know what else to say. In one of our first articles about Heidi Thelen -- DigNittanyVolleyball.com on Heidi Thelen and Nia Reed -- we wrote the following: Note that we described her as an MB ( because that's what she was) and also that we listed her at 6-3 (sadly, the pressure of a program like Penn State shrunk her to 6-2 by the time she graduated). She played on the left in this match.
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Post by BuckysHeat on Jan 5, 2018 17:20:20 GMT -5
Shouldn't this Thelen discussion be on the PSU '17 thread or it's own? And is it really important anyway?
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Post by akbar on Jan 5, 2018 17:31:33 GMT -5
Shouldn't this Thelen discussion be on the PSU '17 thread or it's own? And is it really important anyway? yes. no not really.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2018 17:38:05 GMT -5
In one of our first articles about Heidi Thelen -- DigNittanyVolleyball.com on Heidi Thelen and Nia Reed -- we wrote the following: Note that we described her as an MB ( because that's what she was) and also that we listed her at 6-3 (sadly, the pressure of a program like Penn State shrunk her to 6-2 by the time she graduated). She played on the left in this match. 2018 Penn State recruit Jenna Hampton played OH for Berkeley Prep this season and last season (and maybe all four seasons). Clearly, she was "recruited to be a pin hitter at Penn State."
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Post by future on Jan 6, 2018 7:54:30 GMT -5
She played on the left in this match. 2018 Penn State recruit Jenna Hampton played OH for Berkeley Prep this season and last season (and maybe all four seasons). Clearly, she was "recruited to be a pin hitter at Penn State." She did set for her intramural team. So that is a nice option to have. Heading to the end of the year banquet. Should be fun. Looking forward to what 2018 brings for the program
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2018 14:34:45 GMT -5
She played on the left in this match. 2018 Penn State recruit Jenna Hampton played OH for Berkeley Prep this season and last season (and maybe all four seasons). Clearly, she was "recruited to be a pin hitter at Penn State." Normally, I'm a fan of your contributions to Penn State threads and think your posts are thoughtful and add value to discussions. This is not one of those times. Every recruiting service isn't listing Hampton as an OH like they were with Thelen, but you already knew that.
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Post by gnu2vball on Jan 6, 2018 14:42:10 GMT -5
2018 Penn State recruit Jenna Hampton played OH for Berkeley Prep this season and last season (and maybe all four seasons). Clearly, she was "recruited to be a pin hitter at Penn State." Normally, I'm a fan of your contributions to Penn State threads and think your posts are thoughtful and add value to discussions. This is not one of those times. Every recruiting service isn't listing Hampton as an OH like they were with Thelen, but you already knew that. I didn't vote for you as Turkey of the Year--not that it matters. However, you're kicking ass as a troller of the year on this thread.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2018 14:50:11 GMT -5
Normally, I'm a fan of your contributions to Penn State threads and think your posts are thoughtful and add value to discussions. This is not one of those times. Every recruiting service isn't listing Hampton as an OH like they were with Thelen, but you already knew that. I didn't vote for you as Turkey of the Year--not that it matters. However, you're kicking ass as a troller of the year on this thread. How am I trolling? I'm responding when quoted.
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Post by bkedane on Jan 6, 2018 15:44:42 GMT -5
2018 Penn State recruit Jenna Hampton played OH for Berkeley Prep this season and last season (and maybe all four seasons). Clearly, she was "recruited to be a pin hitter at Penn State." Normally, I'm a fan of your contributions to Penn State threads and think your posts are thoughtful and add value to discussions. This is not one of those times. Every recruiting service isn't listing Hampton as an OH like they were with Thelen, but you already knew that. Don't you think that recruiting services listed Thelen as they did because of what positions she played in club? This doesn't show what position she was recruited for by PSU. According to her coaches she was recruiting as a middle. When she committed she had not yet started playing on the pin at all in club. That came after her commitment. When she was at PSU camps both before and after committing she played in the middle exclusively. That's because she was projected as a middle. Much of her training and some of her playing time at PSU was in the middle. As someone who has for years claimed to know so much about PSU volleyball one would think you would know all of these things.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2018 16:04:52 GMT -5
I didn't vote for you as Turkey of the Year--not that it matters. However, you're kicking ass as a troller of the year on this thread. How am I trolling? I'm responding when quoted. Well, you started all of this by saying "Maybe [Penn State] signing four pin hitters in "the greatest class ever" had some disadvantages." When I responded that they recruited three, not four, you said Akbar responded with this: You then said: And bkedane, who I would vote as the VT poster who knows more about Penn State Women's volleyball than any other -- and certainly more than you or I, said [twice!]: And then said this (responding to you): And Russ Rose, the Head Coach of the Penn State Women's Volleyball team, and who probably knows a thing or two about the team and it's recruits, said in this article: You then switched the narrative to the fact that she ended up on the rightside, arguing that meant she was recruited as a pin. Others pointed out that she played middle her freshman year [9 games] and sophomore year [63 games], and that her junior and senior years there were reasons for her switch to rightside that were unrelated to what might have been the best position for her [leaving the team out of the equation]. Your response was that she didn't play much her freshman and sophomore years, which somehow, in your mind, buttressed your argument that she was recruited as a pin hitter. You pointed to where she played in the Mother McCauley match (at a pin) as evidence that she was recruited as a pin. I pointed out Jenna Hampton played OH in high school -- it was meant as Reduxio ad absurdum. So, I don't know (or care) whether that constitutes trolling. But when you ignore the words of Coach Rose, and ignore the word of bkedane, the most knowledgeable Penn State poster, in my book, that is somewhat odd.
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