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Post by moody on Feb 13, 2018 11:24:07 GMT -5
the point being is NONE of this deligitimizes AAU's as a National Championship tournament. They go by different rules than does USJO's. So what? In the end there are very good teams competing in the last few days of that tournament. All could compete in the USJO open tournaments You don't get off that easy. Don't call everyone liars when we are stating facts, then when someone decides they are going to waste their time to show the facts instead of you doing your own damn research you just go off on some other tangent. You have already lost all credibility because you were ranting and raving about something unrelated to what you now claim to be your point because you were completely WRONG about your last argument. Who is the one talking out their backside again? Go away. I pointed out that you were in fact not talking about facts and in fact talking out your a$$. I also pointed out that Plum's facts were not all facts as well. So please pi$$ off
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Post by boh on Feb 13, 2018 11:36:36 GMT -5
You don't get off that easy. Don't call everyone liars when we are stating facts, then when someone decides they are going to waste their time to show the facts instead of you doing your own damn research you just go off on some other tangent. You have already lost all credibility because you were ranting and raving about something unrelated to what you now claim to be your point because you were completely WRONG about your last argument. Who is the one talking out their backside again? Go away. I pointed out that you were in fact not talking about facts and in fact talking out your a$$. I also pointed out that Plum's facts were not all facts as well. So please pi$$ off I stated everything as MY OPINION other than one thing. Players were picked up as free agents for other teams including the 18s team for the club I coach, which is a FACT. What you just posted about me is a complete lie. Plum had an incorrect MVP being a free agent, when it was an L1 instead? You are still COMPLETELY WRONG about free agents at AAUs. Now instead the argument is that AAUs is a valid national championship instead of the free agents argument? You are embarrassing yourself
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Post by moody on Feb 13, 2018 12:40:59 GMT -5
I pointed out that you were in fact not talking about facts and in fact talking out your a$$. I also pointed out that Plum's facts were not all facts as well. So please pi$$ off I stated everything as MY OPINION other than one thing. Players were picked up as free agents for other teams including the 18s team for the club I coach, which is a FACT. What you just posted about me is a complete lie. Plum had an incorrect MVP being a free agent, when it was an L1 instead? You are still COMPLETELY WRONG about free agents at AAUs. Now instead the argument is that AAUs is a valid national championship instead of the free agents argument? You are embarrassing yourself you stated top teams didn't compete for 4 days. Untrue. QED
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Post by boh on Feb 13, 2018 13:34:03 GMT -5
I stated everything as MY OPINION other than one thing. Players were picked up as free agents for other teams including the 18s team for the club I coach, which is a FACT. What you just posted about me is a complete lie. Plum had an incorrect MVP being a free agent, when it was an L1 instead? You are still COMPLETELY WRONG about free agents at AAUs. Now instead the argument is that AAUs is a valid national championship instead of the free agents argument? You are embarrassing yourself you stated top teams didn't compete for 4 days. Untrue. QED Ah, changing your argument again I see. com·pete
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strive to gain or win something by defeating or establishing superiority over others who are trying to do the same.
Against other top teams why were the best players not on the floor in days 1 and 2? Why did teams that placed top 7 not have starters on the floor and lost to other teams that placed lower than them?
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Post by moody on Feb 13, 2018 14:04:49 GMT -5
you stated top teams didn't compete for 4 days. Untrue. QED Ah, changing your argument again I see. com·pete
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strive to gain or win something by defeating or establishing superiority over others who are trying to do the same.
Against other top teams why were the best players not on the floor in days 1 and 2? Why did teams that placed top 7 not have starters on the floor and lost to other teams that placed lower than them? If you don't believe seeding out of the top two pools is important than you don't understand how a national championship tournament is played. Sorry, can't help you with that.
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Post by boh on Feb 13, 2018 14:27:02 GMT -5
Ah, changing your argument again I see. com·pete
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strive to gain or win something by defeating or establishing superiority over others who are trying to do the same.
Against other top teams why were the best players not on the floor in days 1 and 2? Why did teams that placed top 7 not have starters on the floor and lost to other teams that placed lower than them? If you don't believe seeding out of the top two pools is important than you don't understand how a national championship tournament is played. Sorry, can't help you with that. I just pointed out that some of the coaches benched their starters, that seems to speak plenty about what those coaches thought was more important...competing for the best seed possible(nope) or resting important pieces (yep) of their team for when they HAD to win. I thought once it was pointed out that you were WRONG by accusing us of saying there were not free agents and then me posting the definition of compete and telling you power pool teams were not playing their best lineups that would be enough...but you are clearly too hard headed to admit you were completely wrong. This will be my last response to you on this topic. Enjoy your day.
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Post by moody on Feb 13, 2018 14:31:02 GMT -5
If you don't believe seeding out of the top two pools is important than you don't understand how a national championship tournament is played. Sorry, can't help you with that. I just pointed out that some of the coaches benched their starters, that seems to speak plenty about what those coaches thought was more important...competing for the best seed possible(nope) or resting important pieces (yep) of their team for when they HAD to win. I thought once it was pointed out that you were WRONG by accusing us of saying there were not free agents and then me posting the definition of compete and telling you power pool teams were not playing their best lineups that would be enough...but you are clearly too hard headed to admit you were completely wrong. This will be my last response to you on this topic. Enjoy your day. you haven't been right all day.
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Post by maɡˈnōlēə on Feb 13, 2018 18:10:15 GMT -5
This is a really entertaining thread.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2018 23:29:36 GMT -5
Wow you are quite the expert on the AAU 18 Open Championship. Tell us which teams in the top power pools did not compete for 4 days? Which teams had "free agents"? Which teams were checked out? My point is your are talking out your a$$. Top Select was missing 2017 Big10 FOY No they weren't.
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Post by ProfessorPlum on Feb 14, 2018 11:23:23 GMT -5
Top Select was missing 2017 Big10 FOY No they weren't. I’m not sure what you are trying to do here. But Top Select absolutely was missing their best player Samedy. If you are making a reference to her not winning Big10 FOY or that this isn’t an exact award then horray for you. It was not a literal refemce to an actual award but simply to identify a great player on a great team was not playing at AAU 2017. Bottom line is ... she wasn’t there and didn’t play!
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Post by moody on Feb 14, 2018 11:36:50 GMT -5
I’m not sure what you are trying to do here. But Top Select absolutely was missing their best player Samedy. If you are making a reference to her not winning Big10 FOY or that this isn’t an exact award then horray for you. It was not a literal refemce to an actual award but simply to identify a great player on a great team was not playing at AAU 2017. Bottom line is ... she wasn’t there and didn’t play! SO, AAU certainly can't be a legitimate National Championship tournament since Samedy wasn't able to play.
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Post by dman on Feb 14, 2018 11:48:38 GMT -5
I’m not sure what you are trying to do here. But Top Select absolutely was missing their best player Samedy. If you are making a reference to her not winning Big10 FOY or that this isn’t an exact award then horray for you. It was not a literal refemce to an actual award but simply to identify a great player on a great team was not playing at AAU 2017. Bottom line is ... she wasn’t there and didn’t play! SO, AAU certainly can't be a legitimate National Championship tournament since Samedy wasn't able to play. Moody....you just don't get it; or choose not to get it. If you want to call this 18's age group a "legitimate" National Championship to make it sound good to yourself then by all means go for it! If entering without qualifying for squat, changing rosters at will and top club players choosing not to play makes this tournament legitimate in your eyes then that's all that should really matter to you!
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Post by moody on Feb 14, 2018 11:52:37 GMT -5
SO, AAU certainly can't be a legitimate National Championship tournament since Samedy wasn't able to play. Moody....you just don't get it; or choose not to get it. If you want to call this 18's age group a "legitimate" National Championship to make it sound good to yourself then by all means go for it! If entering without qualifying for squat, changing rosters at will and top club players choosing not to play makes this tournament legitimate in your eyes then that's all that should really matter to you! and if not calling it a National Championship because the top two pools were power pools, because some teams had injured players or changed their rosters makes you feel better good for you. To say these top teams can't compete in USJO's is simply ignorant.
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Post by dman on Feb 14, 2018 12:02:54 GMT -5
Moody....you just don't get it; or choose not to get it. If you want to call this 18's age group a "legitimate" National Championship to make it sound good to yourself then by all means go for it! If entering without qualifying for squat, changing rosters at will and top club players choosing not to play makes this tournament legitimate in your eyes then that's all that should really matter to you! and if not calling it a National Championship because the top two pools were power pools, because some teams had injured players or changed their rosters makes you feel better good for you. To say these top teams can't compete in USJO's is simply ignorant. The fact of the matter is at this age group if you win it with a totally different team than you have had all year HOW is that legitimate? You seem to be very hung up on these "power pools" (whatever that is). I can only speak for USAV, which I am familiar with. At Nationals, pretty much EVERY pool is a power pool from Day 1 and you absolutely could never rest players without real consideration of losing the match. Are there talented teams that play in AAU that can compete at USAV? YES! There are too many variables that AAU allows that USAV does not that makes trying to compare the two moot.
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Post by moody on Feb 14, 2018 12:08:17 GMT -5
and if not calling it a National Championship because the top two pools were power pools, because some teams had injured players or changed their rosters makes you feel better good for you. To say these top teams can't compete in USJO's is simply ignorant. The fact of the matter is at this age group if you win it with a totally different team than you have had all year HOW is that legitimate? You seem to be very hung up on these "power pools" (whatever that is). I can only speak for USAV, which I am familiar with. At Nationals, pretty much EVERY pool is a power pool from Day 1 and you absolutely could never rest players without real consideration of losing the match. Are there talented teams that play in AAU that can compete at USAV? YES! There are too many variables that AAU allows that USAV does not that makes trying to compare the two moot. you are starting your argument with a false statement. No one had and entirely different roster. You don't know how the tournament was structured yet you don't let that get in the way of you "expert" opinion. Now that's talking out your a$$
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