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Post by BeachbytheBay on Feb 18, 2018 10:40:16 GMT -5
here's that hit by Ma'a (was set 2) on a long rally
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Feb 18, 2018 10:44:19 GMT -5
here's that hit by Ma'a (was set 2) on a long rally
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Post by socal3 on Feb 18, 2018 10:47:27 GMT -5
UCLA lost the serve and serve receive match up by A LOT! Hard to win matches when these two components fail.
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Post by CoastalVB on Feb 18, 2018 11:44:23 GMT -5
Great crowd that impacted the match and made the game so fun to watch as a fan.
UCLA lost their focus. No way Tuininga should serve 5 or 6 in a row in game 4. He has a really good serve but at this level not siding out is simply focus. UCLA had the lead 18-15 in that game. They also missed 25 serves to LBS 14. Both teams have special talent. Long Beach played better and good for them in front of a great crowd. Let's see if UCLA can clean it up on Wednesday.
Not sure Arnitz helped. He hit zero in game 4. It looked like his confidence was low.
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Post by thekid on Feb 18, 2018 11:46:33 GMT -5
Unpopular opinion: Micah didn’t play well in sets 3 and 4. I don’t think his location was where it usually is.
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Post by emmettgera on Feb 18, 2018 12:01:55 GMT -5
Unpopular opinion: Micah didn’t play well in sets 3 and 4. I don’t think his location was where it usually is. Didn’t pay too much attention to his location, but he did look a little stress. He was trying to get stuff going by dumping/ attacking the ball, but he made a handful of errors. Wasn’t doing so hot under pressure.
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Post by socalvb7 on Feb 18, 2018 12:49:57 GMT -5
Unpopular opinion: Micah didn’t play well in sets 3 and 4. I don’t think his location was where it usually is. I agree. He got a little shaky down the stretch. But when your outside hitters give you nothing offensively, it makes your job pretty hard as a setter.
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Post by socal3 on Feb 18, 2018 13:19:36 GMT -5
If you watch the game video you will see that Ma’a had little to nothing to work with in sets 3 and 4 from his passers. Lots of 1s and 2s which doesn’t align with running your middles where UCLA has super efficient Gyimah to feed. Too often Ma’a’s only option was a long set to the left pin from somewhere deep in the backcourt off a 1 pass. The subsequent attack on this set from undersized OH’s like JT is not going to score consistently.
The poor serve receive was not just Peed. In fact early on Peed made some pretty amazing passes and digs that kept UCLA in attack mode. JT struggled in ways he typically doesn’t. One of the keys to success of a feshman Libero is surrounding the rookie with great passing pins with overall solid ball control because a good freshman libero can contribute to a solid passing effort but very difficult for a freshman Libero to not break down when his senior pins are shanking. I think the back row was the major issue.
A word on serve. I acknowledge the need for the tough jumpie, but I also see the need for something of less heat that allows a rhythm to develop. UCLA was able to get some blocks even on good pass, set, hit plays from LB so why did they feel the need to go extra huge on their serve when it clearly wasn’t working.
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Post by vinnielopes on Feb 18, 2018 13:21:28 GMT -5
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Feb 18, 2018 13:28:28 GMT -5
As spreraw had said, serving impacts a match in such disproportions
Set 3 ucla late in the set while they were in it, they hit 3 or 4 straight serves net/out
As a lb fan u take that, but it clealy made that 3rd set anticlimatic
On the flipside the serving by kofi and tuaniga in the 4th made for some great drama
At the end you were like have as big a lead as possible cause here comes kofi to serve again sure enough he staved off one match point before he aired that last one long
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Feb 18, 2018 13:35:30 GMT -5
The other thing on serving. Even though lb won the serve battle, they did not get their change-up sift roll serves in so lb still has more to throw at ucla on wed, i m sre tj wasnt pleased missing that serve 3-4 times and not a single one making it over
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Post by prettyjade on Feb 18, 2018 13:42:26 GMT -5
If you watch the game video you will see that Ma’a had little to nothing to work with in sets 3 and 4 from his passers. Lots of 1s and 2s which doesn’t align with running your middles where UCLA has super efficient Gyimah to feed. Too often Ma’a’s only option was a long set to the left pin from somewhere deep in the backcourt off a 1 pass. The subsequent attack on this set from undersized OH’s like JT is not going to score consistently. The poor serve receive was not just Peed. In fact early on Peed made some pretty amazing passes and digs that kept UCLA in attack mode. JT struggled in ways he typically doesn’t. One of the keys to success of a feshman Libero is surrounding the rookie with great passing pins with overall solid ball control because a good freshman libero can contribute to a solid passing effort but very difficult for a freshman Libero to not break down when his senior pins are shanking. I think the back row was the major issue. A word on serve. I acknowledge the need for the tough jumpie, but I also see the need for something of less heat that allows a rhythm to develop. UCLA was able to get some blocks even on good pass, set, hit plays from LB so why did they feel the need to go extra huge on their serve when it clearly wasn’t working. I think we are used to Ma'a being efficient even with 1s and 2s. Usually he can go to Hessenauer and Hessenauer can get it down, but LB did a really good job containing Hessenauer. Peed was pretty good last night but definitely showed some lack of experience. Considering Hatch was off last night on his defense I don't think UCLA could have done better than Peed.
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Post by Spike Town on Feb 19, 2018 0:00:21 GMT -5
Set 4 about to start. A few quick thoughts: - This has been one of the more entertaining matches in recent memory. Great block defense that results in long, exciting rallies. - Micah is such an impactful player. He makes so many great plays in every part of the game. - Josh's red and D ball to Ensing is so fast. It makes it virtually impossible to get more than one blocker on him. Any noticeable takeaways from the block D. I find it fascinating to see the last two USA MVB Olympic coaches going head to head. I don't get to see either team enough to have a good sense of what they learned from their international experiences and brought to their respective NCAA programs. Systematically, I'd love to hear what people think the two programs do differently? Thanks!
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Post by socalvb7 on Feb 19, 2018 1:26:12 GMT -5
Set 4 about to start. A few quick thoughts: - This has been one of the more entertaining matches in recent memory. Great block defense that results in long, exciting rallies. - Micah is such an impactful player. He makes so many great plays in every part of the game. - Josh's red and D ball to Ensing is so fast. It makes it virtually impossible to get more than one blocker on him. Any noticeable takeaways from the block D. I find it fascinating to see the last two USA MVB Olympic coaches going head to head. I don't get to see either team enough to have a good sense of what they learned from their international experiences and brought to their respective NCAA programs. Systematically, I'd love to hear what people think the two programs do differently? Thanks! All 5 of Long Beach State's defenders are great. Ensing might be the best defensive opposite I have seen at this level. This isn't so much the result of a system than it is a bunch of guys who are just highly skilled individual players. Micah is also a freakish defender. I think most coaches adapt their "system" to the talent they have. I'm sure that Speraw doesn't always love the 6-2, but he ran it for a couple of years because that's what the talent on the roster called for. It seems that Knipe's "system" is to run incredibly fast sets to both pins, but I would argue this is because he has a phenomenal setter and two incredible attackers in TJ Defalco and Kyle Ensing. I am sure Knipe wouldn't run such a fast red if he didn't have players like Josh and Kyle who can run it so effectively. As far as overall differences, UCLA is balanced on offense and LBSU can ride their two studs in Defalco and Ensing. At the end of the day, UCLA lost the serve and pass game by a significant margin and this resulted in easy sideouts for LBSU and very challenging sideouts for UCLA because of the off-passes. UCLA can absolutely beat LBSU, but they are going to have to serve more balls in and handle LBSU's serves better to do so.
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Post by future on Feb 19, 2018 9:35:47 GMT -5
Any noticeable takeaways from the block D. I find it fascinating to see the last two USA MVB Olympic coaches going head to head. I don't get to see either team enough to have a good sense of what they learned from their international experiences and brought to their respective NCAA programs. Systematically, I'd love to hear what people think the two programs do differently? Thanks! I don't know if the coaches set their systems up like this but I see one key difference in the offenses for both teams. It seems as though LBSU relies on establishing their pins to open up their middles while UCLA relies on the middle to open up their pins. I would say that the UCLA method is what you'll see a majority of the time around the country but what they do with their bic after establishing the middle is special. Unfortunately, passing breakdowns have been causing them fits but I'm guessing they'll figure that out as the season goes along. LBSU's strength IS this pins UCLA's strength IS their middles If offensively somethings opens up afterwards, that is great.
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