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Post by huskerjen on Dec 31, 2018 13:36:48 GMT -5
This class is middle heavy. Miller and Whittington should have been on the top 50 middles list as well, probably in place of a couple setters. I imagine they'll jump when the senior aces are released.
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Post by permagrin on Dec 31, 2018 14:33:55 GMT -5
Is the ND kid who is uncommitted going to play VB or Basketball? She is the 38th best basketball player in the country. I know she visited minnesota this year for both sports
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Post by ay2013 on Dec 31, 2018 15:25:08 GMT -5
What's most glaring to me is the continued decline in overall west coast prep talent. I count just 4 from California, meanwhile 20 recruits come from states that have Big 10 schools in them. Reason #1 for the decline of the Pac-12 and the rise of the Big 10.
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Post by ay2013 on Dec 31, 2018 15:29:27 GMT -5
Am I seeing this right, TAV alone has 5 hitters in the top 50 in this class? Are they all playing on the same 17's team this year? Sounds like they just need a high profile setter and a libero, how ironic.
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Post by ay2013 on Dec 31, 2018 15:30:52 GMT -5
this is a relatively short OH class..... half of those mentioned are 6ft or shorter.
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Post by Floyd R. Turbo on Dec 31, 2018 16:04:44 GMT -5
What's most glaring to me is the continued decline in overall west coast prep talent. I count just 4 from California, meanwhile 20 recruits come from states that have Big 10 schools in them. Reason #1 for the decline of the Pac-12 and the rise of the Big 10. Why the decline in West Coast talent? Are top athletes choosing other sports? Or is it just cyclical?
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Post by noreaster14 on Dec 31, 2018 16:09:51 GMT -5
Am I seeing this right, TAV alone has 5 hitters in the top 50 in this class? Are they all playing on the same 17's team this year? Sounds like they just need a high profile setter and a libero, how ironic. The three middles, the OH committed to Texas, and the right side play for TAV 17 Black. The OH committed to A&M plays up a year on 18 Black
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Post by ay2013 on Dec 31, 2018 16:26:58 GMT -5
What's most glaring to me is the continued decline in overall west coast prep talent. I count just 4 from California, meanwhile 20 recruits come from states that have Big 10 schools in them. Reason #1 for the decline of the Pac-12 and the rise of the Big 10. Why the decline in West Coast talent? Are top athletes choosing other sports? Or is it just cyclical? I think its demographic more than anything. The population centers on the west coast are becoming increasingly foreign born and fewer families with kids who take an interest in sports.
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Post by calical on Dec 31, 2018 16:28:41 GMT -5
What's most glaring to me is the continued decline in overall west coast prep talent. I count just 4 from California, meanwhile 20 recruits come from states that have Big 10 schools in them. Reason #1 for the decline of the Pac-12 and the rise of the Big 10. Sand, sand, sand. You only need to check the sand rosters of UCLA and USC to see the impact. Also fewer teams in SCVA year over year. It's becoming more and more prevalent with each class. Many young girls aren't even starting indoors anymore.
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Post by ay2013 on Dec 31, 2018 16:36:42 GMT -5
What's most glaring to me is the continued decline in overall west coast prep talent. I count just 4 from California, meanwhile 20 recruits come from states that have Big 10 schools in them. Reason #1 for the decline of the Pac-12 and the rise of the Big 10. Sand, sand, sand. You only need to check the sand rosters of UCLA and USC to see the impact. Also fewer teams in SCVA year over year. It's becoming more and more prevalent with each class. Many young girls aren't even starting indoors anymore. sure sand plays a big role, but is sand really attracting THAT many top tier D1 quality indoor players? meh.... UCLA doesn't have any players over 6 feet on its sand roster that isn't also playing indoor. I think the west coast has a demographic problem. The decline in depth of overall west coast talent was happening before Sand become a thing. It will start to be very eye opening when it hits boys basketball and football.
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Post by calical on Dec 31, 2018 16:42:50 GMT -5
[/quote]sure sand plays a big role, but is sand really attracting THAT many top tier D1 quality indoor players? meh.... UCLA doesn't have any players over 6 feet on its sand roster that isn't also playing indoor. I think the west coast has a demographic problem. The decline in depth of overall west coast talent was happening before Sand become a thing. It will start to be very eye opening when it hits boys basketball and football.[/quote]
Valid. No doubt the training and skill are here but not the size and physicality by comparison. Same for girls bball.
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Post by wahinefan on Dec 31, 2018 16:56:34 GMT -5
These players can commit all they want, but until they sign the NLI nothing is finalized. These players that have committed can change their minds, for one reason, or another. Like a coach retiring, or coaching change, due to many reasons, like health issues, etc.
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Post by holidayhusker on Dec 31, 2018 17:04:52 GMT -5
These players can commit all they want, but until they sign the NLI nothing is finalized. These players that have committed can change their minds, for one reason, or another. Like a coach retiring, or coaching change, due to many reasons, like health issues, etc. brilliant insight.
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Post by stevehorn on Dec 31, 2018 18:13:20 GMT -5
These players can commit all they want, but until they sign the NLI nothing is finalized. These players that have committed can change their minds, for one reason, or another. Like a coach retiring, or coaching change, due to many reasons, like health issues, etc.
I think everyone that follows recruiting knows this, but you also have very few commits among the elite players change their commitments in volleyball.
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Post by ay2013 on Dec 31, 2018 18:36:58 GMT -5
Sand is stealing the short ball handling 5'10" OHs and the even shorter DS's and L's that used to be a huge advantage. I think the decline otherwise is overstated. Both of Stanford's OHs were SoCal (plus the retired Hodson), as was a top pin each for Nebraska and Texas plus a starting MB for PSU. Oregon beat Minnesota twice, including knocking them out of the playoffs with 7 Cali girls. These lists can be cyclical, and are highly dependent on the bias of the recruiters making up the list. 6 of the top 37 front row players coming from 1 club with 5 on 1 team is highly unlikely. It will be interesting to look back on this list 2 to 3 years from now to see if this is truly a once in a lifetime group. If it is, then it was rather shocking that they lost 3 matches and finished tied for 5th at the championships last June. Oregon notwithstanding, you are talking about 5 players over the course of 4 recruiting years for what was is traditionally the hot bed of volleyball talent. If that doesn’t scream decline I dunno what does. IMO it’s not about the very best, sure top 10 you are always gonna find a variety of regions represented...i am talking about DEPTH. Teams like Michigan, Purdue, Michigan State etc. out of the Big 10 who never used to be relevant on a national scene are reaping the benefit of depth in the Midwest. California has landed 4 top 50 recruits in 2017, 2019, and looking to be a low number for 2020. If it's cyclical, I'm not seeing the cycle.
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