|
Post by dunkinlongnuts on Feb 19, 2019 14:50:50 GMT -5
Cal Lu has not won a set since Jan 26 and have still found a way to make it into the top 15........ L O L
|
|
|
Post by ineedajob on Feb 19, 2019 14:58:04 GMT -5
In no particular order Nate Miller Ian Capp Landon's Shorts Alex Li Kyle Jasuta honorable mention: Kyle Biggers mustache Good Flashy players, I can understand why you choose them but not sure I agree. Matt Reinsel and David Lehman should definitely be part of this list. Don't really get Ian Capp at all, his assists per set are very low for a supposedly top setter. Alex Li like others have said has no business on this list. Good player, sure. Top 5, No way I'll give Nate Miller and Landon Shorts the benefit of the doubt as they are the main contributors to their teams success. Hard to argue with Kyle Jasuta as he is a long time starter for Back to Back NC Springfield but for some reason he doesn't really scream top 5 player in d3 to me. But then again nobody really does this year. I'm not really sure of the stats but the Kean Middle Grabowski seems to be one of the best middles in d3 this year, can't really add someone to top 5 in D3 after barely half a season but I wouldn't be surprised if he is an All-American and the best middle attacker by the end of the year Assists/set, Digs/set, Kills/set, etc. can be terribly misleading numbers. I'm not trying to defend anyone, but that's not a great argument.
|
|
|
Post by d3vbfan on Feb 19, 2019 16:05:42 GMT -5
1. Springfield 2. Stevens 3. Dominican 4. Benedictine (IL) T-5. Carthage T-5. Kean 7. Stevenson 8. SUNY New Paltz 9. North Central (IL) 10. Endicott 11. Southern Virginia 12. Lancaster Bible 13. Arcadia 14. Juniata 15. California Lutheran
Receiving Votes: Elms 16; Hunter 14; St. Joseph's College (NY) 4; MSOE 3
|
|
|
Post by proudd3mommy on Feb 19, 2019 16:36:19 GMT -5
Good Flashy players, I can understand why you choose them but not sure I agree. Matt Reinsel and David Lehman should definitely be part of this list. Don't really get Ian Capp at all, his assists per set are very low for a supposedly top setter. Alex Li like others have said has no business on this list. Good player, sure. Top 5, No way I'll give Nate Miller and Landon Shorts the benefit of the doubt as they are the main contributors to their teams success. Hard to argue with Kyle Jasuta as he is a long time starter for Back to Back NC Springfield but for some reason he doesn't really scream top 5 player in d3 to me. But then again nobody really does this year. I'm not really sure of the stats but the Kean Middle Grabowski seems to be one of the best middles in d3 this year, can't really add someone to top 5 in D3 after barely half a season but I wouldn't be surprised if he is an All-American and the best middle attacker by the end of the year Assists/set, Digs/set, Kills/set, etc. can be terribly misleading numbers. I'm not trying to defend anyone, but that's not a great argument. Seems to be the only statistical argument for a setter IMO. Agreed that Digs/set and Kills/set are exactly representative of a player's positional strength but assist/set seems pretty cut and dry. How are setters supposed to be judged if not Assists per Set? Seems the AVCA committee values this stat line.
|
|
|
Post by thehamburglar on Feb 19, 2019 16:55:55 GMT -5
So, I think you are saying that I should have Benedictine above Kean. Thought about that one a lot, and don't feel strongly about it. In the end I gave Kean the edge because of the Stevens win. Had a feeling you’d bring that game up. One match against Stevens should not hold that much weight. Kean got embarrassed.......EMBARASSED by not just North Central, but NJIT (even though they may be a different division, still. Put up a fight. Show that you at least have a sack) They then lost in 5 to ENDICOTT........ Benedictine lost to Stevenson in 5.......besides that........nothing else. Conquered Carthage in 4, NC in 5 and Quincy in 4. Sure are sucking Kean’s dick Let alone them not doing much besides a %*$#ty and lucky performance against NP. .219 hittting percentage? Truly didn’t deserve to win that game. Congrats to NP for being “offensively talented” and still losing. Agree Benedictine should be above Kean, however that Stevens win should hold a lot of weight that is a more impressive win than any of Benedictine's However, Kean has worse losses which is why I would put Benedictine higher The NJIT loss holds no weight in division 3 rankings and the continued use of this as an argument against Kean shows the lack of knowledge people have around the rankings, this makes any further information you provide disputing the poll less credible especially since Kean is not supposed to win that game in the slightest. Position by position NJIT is better than them, you should take the time and go through things like this yourself before you jump to such drastic conclusions
|
|
|
Post by thehamburglar on Feb 19, 2019 17:00:20 GMT -5
Assists/set, Digs/set, Kills/set, etc. can be terribly misleading numbers. I'm not trying to defend anyone, but that's not a great argument. Seems to be the only statistical argument for a setter IMO. Agreed that Digs/set and Kills/set are exactly representative of a player's positional strength but assist/set seems pretty cut and dry. How are setters supposed to be judged if not Assists per Set? Seems the AVCA committee values this stat line. Only argument against assists per set is that the player actually needs to get a kill in order for the assist to count. If you are physically watching the game the setter might be setting perfect balls every time, but if nobody can kill them then how is that statistic a proper representation of their skills? Same thing goes for bad setters that set great hitters. Their assist/set numbers might be inflated due to the fact of who they are setting, not on how good their actual sets are. Ian Capp definitely passes the eye test as a top setter in the nation, as well as having extremely well rounded skills in all aspects of the game.
|
|
|
Post by wyomingpancake on Feb 19, 2019 17:17:49 GMT -5
Had a feeling you’d bring that game up. One match against Stevens should not hold that much weight. Kean got embarrassed.......EMBARASSED by not just North Central, but NJIT (even though they may be a different division, still. Put up a fight. Show that you at least have a sack) They then lost in 5 to ENDICOTT........ Benedictine lost to Stevenson in 5.......besides that........nothing else. Conquered Carthage in 4, NC in 5 and Quincy in 4. Sure are sucking Kean’s dick Let alone them not doing much besides a %*$#ty and lucky performance against NP. .219 hittting percentage? Truly didn’t deserve to win that game. Congrats to NP for being “offensively talented” and still losing. Agree Benedictine should be above Kean, however that Stevens win should hold a lot of weight that is a more impressive win than any of Benedictine's However, Kean has worse losses which is why I would put Benedictine higher The NJIT loss holds no weight in division 3 rankings and the continued use of this as an argument against Kean shows the lack of knowledge people have around the rankings, this makes any further information you provide disputing the poll less credible especially since Kean is not supposed to win that game in the slightest. Position by position NJIT is better than them, you should take the time and go through things like this yourself before you jump to such drastic conclusions I mentioned both D2 matchups of both teams. It wasn’t any point of support of my argument. But you have an opportunity to showcase what you can do and to play against a team not a lot of schools get the experience to. Yet they get %*$# on. I know they don’t care for that when listing the rankings, but it was more salt to the wound. Benedictine would’ve been above them, whether or not they player NJIT.
|
|
|
Post by Coast2coastelite on Feb 19, 2019 17:46:02 GMT -5
Seems to be the only statistical argument for a setter IMO. Agreed that Digs/set and Kills/set are exactly representative of a player's positional strength but assist/set seems pretty cut and dry. How are setters supposed to be judged if not Assists per Set? Seems the AVCA committee values this stat line. Only argument against assists per set is that the player actually needs to get a kill in order for the assist to count. If you are physically watching the game the setter might be setting perfect balls every time, but if nobody can kill them then how is that statistic a proper representation of their skills? Same thing goes for bad setters that set great hitters. Their assist/set numbers might be inflated due to the fact of who they are setting, not on how good their actual sets are. Ian Capp definitely passes the eye test as a top setter in the nation, as well as having extremely well rounded skills in all aspects of the game. Also does not note that Kean has ran a 6:2 multiple times this season. With that being said Ian Capp is hitting over .300 on the season and doesn't include his aces per set which is amongst the top in the country
|
|
|
Post by Shoot talker on Feb 19, 2019 21:35:08 GMT -5
MIT wins over Vassar 3 - 0. Not sure whether it's MIT's serving or Vassar's serve receives but Vassar was really struggling. MIT switched over to a very reputable coaching program. It is clear that they are implementing things that the coach learned this summer and it's showing success. Starting to see more programs make the switch! Todd coached the same way and the same system when he was coaching high school ball at Newton South HS. Was very successful there as well, so I am not sure it was something he just learned over last summer.
|
|
|
Post by Shoot talker on Feb 19, 2019 22:11:24 GMT -5
Match predictions for this week... New Paltz beats Springfield (3-2) Benedictine beats Dominican (3-1) Carthage beats North Central (3-1) Southern Virginia beats Marymount (3-0) Kean beats Vassar (3-0) NYU beats Rutgers (3-0) NP over springfield in 5? Totally behind this. NP passes well, they can possibly take it in 4. New Paltz has dropped 18 sets since the season started, Springfield has dropped 4. Against Hope Int'l, SC went 3-1, New Paltz 1-3 at a season opening tournament. IF SC loses to NP, it's because Charlie played his bench. No knock against NP, but I don't see SC being beaten in this match.
|
|
|
D3 in 2019
Feb 19, 2019 22:30:10 GMT -5
via mobile
Post by slydedaddy on Feb 19, 2019 22:30:10 GMT -5
NP over springfield in 5? Totally behind this. NP passes well, they can possibly take it in 4. New Paltz has dropped 18 sets since the season started, Springfield has dropped 4. Against Hope Int'l, SC went 3-1, New Paltz 1-3 at a season opening tournament. IF SC loses to NP, it's because Charlie played his bench. No knock against NP, but I don't see SC being beaten in this match. New Paltz has dropped 18 sets. Springfield has dropped 4. Lol at their schedules. One is in the toughest conference in the nation. One is an independent where he can pick and choose who he plays. And on top of that he bullies teams into forcing them to play in their gym. Who other than New Paltz twice is even remotely good in Springfield college schedule this season? Seriously!!
|
|
|
D3 in 2019
Feb 19, 2019 22:51:51 GMT -5
via mobile
Post by Scipio Aemilianus on Feb 19, 2019 22:51:51 GMT -5
New Paltz has dropped 18 sets since the season started, Springfield has dropped 4. Against Hope Int'l, SC went 3-1, New Paltz 1-3 at a season opening tournament. IF SC loses to NP, it's because Charlie played his bench. No knock against NP, but I don't see SC being beaten in this match. New Paltz has dropped 18 sets. Springfield has dropped 4. Lol at their schedules. One is in the toughest conference in the nation. One is an independent where he can pick and choose who he plays. And on top of that he bullies teams into forcing them to play in their gym. Who other than New Paltz twice is even remotely good in Springfield college schedule this season? Seriously!! No doubt they have had an easier schedule this year. But how can you say ‘they are independent and can pick and choose who he plays’ while also saying ‘he bullies teams into forcing them to play’ at their gym? They are an independent so not a single school is required to schedule Springfield. No school has to accept an invite to play there. The other schools have the power to say no we don’t want to play and then Springfield would have no one on their schedule. Other schools hold the power so I’m confused how he can bully people from an inferior position. This inferior position is probably why their schedule is as weak as it is. Good teams don’t have to play Springfield so they don’t which gives teams a better shot at an at-large bid. New Paltz has been challenged a lot this year and has a good chance to win this matchup!
|
|
|
Post by fromtheoutsidein on Feb 19, 2019 23:34:20 GMT -5
NP by far has the more aggressive schedule especially to start the season. Charlie will never put his team at risk especially on the road. They have a nice March schedule though. Regarding who plays them, many good teams play them and the return deal is usually in Springfield's favor. Regarding playing the teams they play, there are limits in the east. You will never see charlie play 5 days in Cali. like NP, or run the gauntlet through Chicago. It is not his style and he has seen continued success. Besides the NP match, I like the Endicott match-up for the Gulls. They are much better team than last year. Physical, big serve oriented, passing is suspect but lastly they don't seem afraid to make mistakes. Recovery and shot term memory is key against Springfield.
|
|
|
Post by ineedajob on Feb 20, 2019 0:16:13 GMT -5
Seems to be the only statistical argument for a setter IMO. Agreed that Digs/set and Kills/set are exactly representative of a player's positional strength but assist/set seems pretty cut and dry. How are setters supposed to be judged if not Assists per Set? Seems the AVCA committee values this stat line. Only argument against assists per set is that the player actually needs to get a kill in order for the assist to count. If you are physically watching the game the setter might be setting perfect balls every time, but if nobody can kill them then how is that statistic a proper representation of their skills? Same thing goes for bad setters that set great hitters. Their assist/set numbers might be inflated due to the fact of who they are setting, not on how good their actual sets are. Ian Capp definitely passes the eye test as a top setter in the nation, as well as having extremely well rounded skills in all aspects of the game. And there are so many other ways in which a setter can positively influence the game. If he gets 0.25 more blocks/set, 0.75 more kills/set, and 0.25 more aces/set then it would justify having fewer assists/set than other setters who don’t score by other means as well. I don’t even know if I’m describing him (I completely made those numbers up), but I’ve seen other setters help the team more than just assists/set
|
|
|
Post by bbk on Feb 20, 2019 9:34:18 GMT -5
Match predictions for this week... New Paltz beats Springfield (3-2) Benedictine beats Dominican (3-1) Carthage beats North Central (3-1) Southern Virginia beats Marymount (3-0) Kean beats Vassar (3-0) NYU beats Rutgers (3-0) Since the Governor of NJ declared a state of emergency the NJ teams listed above may not play the matches this evening. All for a possible 6 inches of snow.
|
|