Rick Butler article in New York Times
May 16, 2018 21:46:08 GMT -5
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Post by maɡˈnōlēə on May 16, 2018 21:46:08 GMT -5
I don't believe the kids should be punished.
Furthermore coaches are hired at that level to win. The kids work VERY hard in that gym (my girl played for SPRI). Underline that very hard several times, you would not believe the level of practice and intensity these athletes sign up for AND ENJOY (it's not torture to most of these very driven young people). I don't think there is a club in the area that espouses a work ethic like Sports Performance in terms of # of hours of practice and play time. There are a lot of full time employees that work there so you also have that aspect of this situation.
IMHO it's not just about Rick Butler. I know many people want to believe it is but it is not. It's the unfortunate aspect of this. If the powers that be did their jobs way back then maybe we could explore the moral what ifs posed as questions above. Those are theoretical questions at this point, I am sorry to say. If we are playing the moral high ground game then WHY punish the girls who have come after the fact by about 20-30 years? If ethics and morality is doing the least amount of harm to the greatest number of people then why punish the innocents?
Furthermore I'm not sure why a coach would feel "morally ill" to recruit a Sports Performance player. What is morally ill about recruiting a player accustomed to travel, hard work and commitment. Because the athlete worked their tail off for how many years to become an expert volleyball player to the best of their ability?
This is volleyball. Sports has not been an exercise in ethics for a very long time. We sometimes teach kids to be very competitive and sometimes that means being competitive against other athletes, survival of the fittest in its' "finest" form.
In terms of "moral high ground" I think there was a moral high ground to be had back in the 90's but I refuse to agree that now, 20+ years later that girls that have done nothing wrong except get tough, play tough and become experts at playing volleyball should be punished.
Ethics is a funny thing. Many view it philosophically and others view it as doing the least amount of harm to theleast greatest number of people. I err on the side of the latter for reasons of consequentialism, people tend to maximize "good" consequences which thus leads to a morally correct life. If you espouse a good work ethic, go to practice 3-5x a week, work hard at practice to become the best you can be then you should not be punished for the acts of someone else.
In practice most individuals do not assess the moral and ethical consequences of each act they perform. Perhaps the Utilitarian thinker claims they do (those who espouse maximizing human welfare) but those individuals are far fewer than you may think they are. Those are the Mother Teresa's of the world that do not seem self motivated.
Anyway I could meander on for days. I was on the ethics committee for awhile and after studying philosophy and debate and being on that committee doing various readings on welfare and ethics I view the human condition far more gray than many people do. This is truly a case of the consequences should not affect the athletes. Most will agree on this.
Furthermore coaches are hired at that level to win. The kids work VERY hard in that gym (my girl played for SPRI). Underline that very hard several times, you would not believe the level of practice and intensity these athletes sign up for AND ENJOY (it's not torture to most of these very driven young people). I don't think there is a club in the area that espouses a work ethic like Sports Performance in terms of # of hours of practice and play time. There are a lot of full time employees that work there so you also have that aspect of this situation.
IMHO it's not just about Rick Butler. I know many people want to believe it is but it is not. It's the unfortunate aspect of this. If the powers that be did their jobs way back then maybe we could explore the moral what ifs posed as questions above. Those are theoretical questions at this point, I am sorry to say. If we are playing the moral high ground game then WHY punish the girls who have come after the fact by about 20-30 years? If ethics and morality is doing the least amount of harm to the greatest number of people then why punish the innocents?
Furthermore I'm not sure why a coach would feel "morally ill" to recruit a Sports Performance player. What is morally ill about recruiting a player accustomed to travel, hard work and commitment. Because the athlete worked their tail off for how many years to become an expert volleyball player to the best of their ability?
This is volleyball. Sports has not been an exercise in ethics for a very long time. We sometimes teach kids to be very competitive and sometimes that means being competitive against other athletes, survival of the fittest in its' "finest" form.
In terms of "moral high ground" I think there was a moral high ground to be had back in the 90's but I refuse to agree that now, 20+ years later that girls that have done nothing wrong except get tough, play tough and become experts at playing volleyball should be punished.
Ethics is a funny thing. Many view it philosophically and others view it as doing the least amount of harm to the
In practice most individuals do not assess the moral and ethical consequences of each act they perform. Perhaps the Utilitarian thinker claims they do (those who espouse maximizing human welfare) but those individuals are far fewer than you may think they are. Those are the Mother Teresa's of the world that do not seem self motivated.
Anyway I could meander on for days. I was on the ethics committee for awhile and after studying philosophy and debate and being on that committee doing various readings on welfare and ethics I view the human condition far more gray than many people do. This is truly a case of the consequences should not affect the athletes. Most will agree on this.