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Post by jasonr on Jun 10, 2018 18:23:49 GMT -5
I’m sorry if this is the wrong thread for this topic, but Hancock’s Ace/Error ratio seems really bad for someone that I’ve heard is on the roster for her serve... I would like to see her service points per rotation stat but I doubt anyone keeps that. Looking at the 4 week numbers it is glaringly obvious...... Opposite is our weakest position. The combined kill numbers/percentages for our opposites is the weakest position on the court. It isn't as if the USA system sets all out of system balls to the opposite either. Is it time to try one of the left pin hitters in the opposite spot? They need to reach out to Karsta. She mentioned a couple times that she misses playing and was hanging out in the USNT gym not too long ago. |
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Post by jasonr on Jun 10, 2018 18:28:23 GMT -5
You mentioned my biggest concern about our opposites. Not only do they hit for a low percentage, but they're doing it while mostly taking in system swings. Imo, Drews is better than Murphy on out of system sets, but doesn't put the ball away as consistently as Kelly in system. Kelly struggles so mightily when set off the net, it's almost hard to watch. We have got to remedy this or we will be looking at a probable quarterfinal loss in 2020. We will be fine even if we still use the current players. We have other areas we could improve on that would help as well. I'm tired of seeing tips fall and if a player attacks the ball into the block, and it isn't stuffed straight down we should be able to pop it up and get another transition opportunity. However, I see many times these easier opportunities are missed, and those little things are what is going to keep us from going further than we did last time. Yes, our opposites may not be the strongest in the world, but it's not like they are terrible either. I feel like we are still trying to go too fast and in certain situations the fast ball to either pin doesn't make sense and rushes the hitter, but if you slow it down you face more stable blocks so I guess it's still a trade off. I think Larson's attack percentage would go up with a slower tempo. She's a savvy hitter. I think we lose more of her offense trying to run quick and isolate the block as opposed to letting her read and shot selection do the work. With Hill, I'm not sure. Shes good at tempo if the set is good, but I don't think a slower tempo would hurt her either. MBH seems to be doing well as is. It'll be interesting to see if she can keep it up in the finals against our opponents' A squads. |
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Post by network155 on Jun 10, 2018 19:34:01 GMT -5
Looking at the 4 week numbers it is glaringly obvious...... Opposite is our weakest position. The combined kill numbers/percentages for our opposites is the weakest position on the court. It isn't as if the USA system sets all out of system balls to the opposite either. Is it time to try one of the left pin hitters in the opposite spot? They need to reach out to Karsta. She mentioned a couple times that she misses playing and was hanging out in the USNT gym not too long ago. Nothing against Murphy and Drews, but Lowe was a lot of fun to watch. And she brings a lot more heat! |
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Post by c4ndlelight on Jun 10, 2018 20:39:38 GMT -5
Looking at the 4 week numbers it is glaringly obvious...... Opposite is our weakest position. The combined kill numbers/percentages for our opposites is the weakest position on the court. It isn't as if the USA system sets all out of system balls to the opposite either. Is it time to try one of the left pin hitters in the opposite spot? They need to reach out to Karsta. She mentioned a couple times that she misses playing and was hanging out in the USNT gym not too long ago. They need to get her a few months after she gets her masters and has a true understanding of the job market for young architects. |
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Post by network155 on Jun 10, 2018 23:49:38 GMT -5
Looking at the 4 week numbers it is glaringly obvious...... Opposite is our weakest position. The combined kill numbers/percentages for our opposites is the weakest position on the court. It isn't as if the USA system sets all out of system balls to the opposite either. Is it time to try one of the left pin hitters in the opposite spot? They need to reach out to Karsta. She mentioned a couple times that she misses playing and was hanging out in the USNT gym not too long ago. Also reaching out to former players isn't Karch's strong points. |
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Post by jay on Jun 11, 2018 0:02:35 GMT -5
Karch is clearly better at letting players go then at bringing them back. I understand that during his playing days he was not the nurturing sort and could be a little short with people. Watching his post game interviews this VNL demonstrated that he is not a gifted spontaneous public speaker in the interview genre. Just as in his huddle speeches he seems to lack that fluid insightful response pattern that many top coaches possess.
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Post by VolleyTX on Jun 13, 2018 8:54:44 GMT -5
Karch's biggest failure as a coach is that he has tried to create a "system" or a bunch of "robots". When was the last time you saw two players speaking animatedly to one another in a huddle..... or even on the floor? He has tried to take all emotion out of his players (except for celebrations). These people are human beings. I wish he would realize this. I've watched a TON of matches over the last 5 years. Just look at the players before/during/after play. Even they have bought into this "stepford wives" version of volleyball. Compare team USA to China emotionally? Watch the Chinese in huddles. Which team looks those most mechanical and emotionless? My how things have changed.
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Post by donut on Jun 13, 2018 10:13:39 GMT -5
We will be fine even if we still use the current players. We have other areas we could improve on that would help as well. I'm tired of seeing tips fall and if a player attacks the ball into the block, and it isn't stuffed straight down we should be able to pop it up and get another transition opportunity. However, I see many times these easier opportunities are missed, and those little things are what is going to keep us from going further than we did last time. Yes, our opposites may not be the strongest in the world, but it's not like they are terrible either. I feel like we are still trying to go too fast and in certain situations the fast ball to either pin doesn't make sense and rushes the hitter, but if you slow it down you face more stable blocks so I guess it's still a trade off. I think Larson's attack percentage would go up with a slower tempo. She's a savvy hitter. I think we lose more of her offense trying to run quick and isolate the block as opposed to letting her read and shot selection do the work. With Hill, I'm not sure. Shes good at tempo if the set is good, but I don't think a slower tempo would hurt her either. MBH seems to be doing well as is. It'll be interesting to see if she can keep it up in the finals against our opponents' A squads. I often wonder if the fast system was built for Hill. She struggles a bit with other sets but her height and arm swing make her effective with the fast system. Agree with you on Larson. |
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Post by n00b on Jun 13, 2018 12:24:34 GMT -5
Karch's biggest failure as a coach is that he has tried to create a "system" or a bunch of "robots". When was the last time you saw two players speaking animatedly to one another in a huddle..... or even on the floor? He has tried to take all emotion out of his players (except for celebrations). These people are human beings. I wish he would realize this. I've watched a TON of matches over the last 5 years. Just look at the players before/during/after play. Even they have bought into this "stepford wives" version of volleyball. Compare team USA to China emotionally? Watch the Chinese in huddles. Which team looks those most mechanical and emotionless? My how things have changed. Except the Chinese have that demeanor bred into them from a young age. So when they hit pressure moments, they still remain that way. I felt the demeanor of the Americans (including Karch) changed when their backs were up against the wall in the Olympics. You can't avoid that pressure or act like it isn't there. When you're nothing but loose and carefree for the 3 years leading up to the Olympics, I'm not sure you're as prepared as you could be for that moment. |
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Post by VolleyTX on Jun 13, 2018 13:04:44 GMT -5
Karch's biggest failure as a coach is that he has tried to create a "system" or a bunch of "robots". When was the last time you saw two players speaking animatedly to one another in a huddle..... or even on the floor? He has tried to take all emotion out of his players (except for celebrations). These people are human beings. I wish he would realize this. I've watched a TON of matches over the last 5 years. Just look at the players before/during/after play. Even they have bought into this "stepford wives" version of volleyball. Compare team USA to China emotionally? Watch the Chinese in huddles. Which team looks those most mechanical and emotionless? My how things have changed. Except the Chinese have that demeanor bred into them from a young age. So when they hit pressure moments, they still remain that way. I felt the demeanor of the Americans (including Karch) changed when their backs were up against the wall in the Olympics. You can't avoid that pressure or act like it isn't there. When you're nothing but loose and carefree for the 3 years leading up to the Olympics, I'm not sure you're as prepared as you could be for that moment. I think you missundstand my reference to the Chinese players. The Chinese players today have a lot more emotion/conversation/fire than they ever had. In my mind, they were the classic "steford wives" of volleyball when it came to being stoic. Now, the US women seem to be adopting that emotional approach. While I think a calm, placid mentality is good for any setter (and possibly libero); I don't think this mentality allows the US women to regroup or bounce back when they start off slowly. It also hurts them in crunch time. Humans are emotional beings. I would like to see more of it from the US women. |
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Post by Gilmoy on Jun 13, 2018 15:31:59 GMT -5
I blame the sideline synchronized skits  That practice has surely caused some neurons to atrophy from lack of use.
Now, if they would actually dream up some clever sideline stunts, like Monmouth mbb or Stjarnan FC (Iceland), that would both engage fans, rattle/annoy opponents, and demand creativity. Off the top of my head:
- After USA bic bounce through a huge seam: bench spontaneously splits into two groups: one group shuffles left, one group shuffles right. Then they stretch to block, left group reaching left, right group reaching right. Lone person remaining in the center, without looking, tosses her towel over her shoulder, onto the chair behind her. All do this while looking stoic 
Variations exist, e.g. left group all turn leftward and talk animatedly amongst each other, right group turn rightward and clap at court (as if cheering/supporting team, which looks completely natural), lone person in middle stretches out her lower back.
See, it's not hard. Just takes some lateral thinking 
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Post by c4ndlelight on Jun 13, 2018 16:31:07 GMT -5
I blame the sideline synchronized skits That practice has surely caused some neurons to atrophy from lack of use. Now, if they would actually dream up some clever sideline stunts, like Monmouth mbb or Stjarnan FC (Iceland), that would both engage fans, rattle/annoy opponents, and demand creativity. Off the top of my head: - After USA bic bounce through a huge seam: bench spontaneously splits into two groups: one group shuffles left, one group shuffles right. Then they stretch to block, left group reaching left, right group reaching right. Lone person remaining in the center, without looking, tosses her towel over her shoulder, onto the chair behind her. All do this while looking stoic Variations exist, e.g. left group all turn leftward and talk animatedly amongst each other, right group turn rightward and clap at court (as if cheering/supporting team, which looks completely natural), lone person in middle stretches out her lower back. See, it's not hard. Just takes some lateral thinking There are MANDATORY REHEARSALS, outside of practice time, for sideline dancing. USWNT or local 14U softball squad? |
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Post by bkedane on Jun 13, 2018 16:36:18 GMT -5
Except the Chinese have that demeanor bred into them from a young age. So when they hit pressure moments, they still remain that way. I felt the demeanor of the Americans (including Karch) changed when their backs were up against the wall in the Olympics. You can't avoid that pressure or act like it isn't there. When you're nothing but loose and carefree for the 3 years leading up to the Olympics, I'm not sure you're as prepared as you could be for that moment. I think you missundstand my reference to the Chinese players. The Chinese players today have a lot more emotion/conversation/fire than they ever had. In my mind, they were the classic "steford wives" of volleyball when it came to being stoic. Now, the US women seem to be adopting that emotional approach. While I think a calm, placid mentality is good for any setter (and possibly libero); I don't think this mentality allows the US women to regroup or bounce back when they start off slowly. It also hurts them in crunch time. Humans are emotional beings. I would like to see more of it from the US women. Any evidence that what you say is true? What are the differences in scoring during crunch time between teams displaying a calm demeanor and those showing more outward emotion? The National Team staff is open to being convinced. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2018 17:21:28 GMT -5
Karch is clearly better at letting players go then at bringing them back. I understand that during his playing days he was not the nurturing sort and could be a little short with people. Watching his post game interviews this VNL demonstrated that he is not a gifted spontaneous public speaker in the interview genre. Just as in his huddle speeches he seems to lack that fluid insightful response pattern that many top coaches possess. Maybe Karch is a great technical coach in the gym; but he doesn't possess any kind of skill during a match that seems useful. He's just a body standing around. He doesn't coach, he just asks for challenges and throws mini fits when things aren't going his way. Not enough to really draw attention, but enough to make him appear even more shut down and bitter. He doesn't motivate, he doesn't give advice, he just stands there and grants his assistants time to speak and then the team lets out a half-hearted 'USA' and back to the floor they go. He has a blank stare most of the time, and never once offers any sort of actually useful advice on how to turn a poor match around. What is his job, exactly? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2018 23:21:54 GMT -5
Karch is clearly better at letting players go then at bringing them back. I understand that during his playing days he was not the nurturing sort and could be a little short with people. Watching his post game interviews this VNL demonstrated that he is not a gifted spontaneous public speaker in the interview genre. Just as in his huddle speeches he seems to lack that fluid insightful response pattern that many top coaches possess. What is his job, exactly? Look uncomfortable while Slabe does the actual coaching. |
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