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Post by 405LAX on Jun 4, 2018 19:03:06 GMT -5
Given their poor showing at Huntington and Jake's injury, allowing Taylor to experiment with new partners to great success, do they make it through this season? A poor showing in NY will definitely not help but you gotta think Taylor is seriously considering Chase at some point, before Tokyo for certain assuming Chase sticks with this.
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Post by JB Southpaw on Jun 4, 2018 19:23:04 GMT -5
well, Chase's current partner has more points than Taylor on the AVP.
I don't see Chase leaving Sean this year, he can learn more with Sean.
However, I wouldn't mind Jake coaching Chase starting next year.
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Post by LongSpatch on Jun 4, 2018 19:37:33 GMT -5
agreed w southpaw
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Post by haze on Jun 4, 2018 20:05:50 GMT -5
Yes think chase and Rosie are together for this season at least if not longer
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Post by 405LAX on Jun 4, 2018 20:12:52 GMT -5
Yes think chase and Rosie are together for this season at least if not longer I don't think they will break up now but if Chase wants to get to the Olympics, wouldn't you say Taylor is the much better option? I certainly would. |
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Post by haze on Jun 4, 2018 20:16:29 GMT -5
Yes but I don't think that will be chases decision to make. Taylor will have his pick at players not named phil
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Post by 405LAX on Jun 4, 2018 20:18:21 GMT -5
Yes but I don't think that will be chases decision to make. Taylor will have his pick at players not named phil Agreed but I think we all agree that if Chase keeps improving as he showed this weekend, he'll be the guy, Theo and the rest are too flawed. |
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Post by guest2 on Jun 4, 2018 23:10:56 GMT -5
I don't think Taylor should be focused on Theo or Chase, both are just a means to an end. The guy he should be looking at is Phil. Taylor is already better than Nick and that gap is only going to increase. Nick is steady, but thats about it and Taylor needs to show Phil how much better he is and that means contending on the FIVB.
I dont see Jake as being good enough for that, so its probably Theo unless Chase proves something very quickly. If I were Taylor, I would think about playing with Theo now, but keeping an eye on Chase. Then if Chase keeps improving look for him next year, but Phil should be the ultimate goal.
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Post by 405LAX on Jun 4, 2018 23:20:06 GMT -5
I don't think Taylor should be focused on Theo or Chase, both are just a means to an end. The guy he should be looking at is Phil. Taylor is already better than Nick and that gap is only going to increase. Nick is steady, but thats about it and Taylor needs to show Phil how much better he is and that means contending on the FIVB. I dont see Jake as being good enough for that, so its probably Theo unless Chase proves something very quickly. If I were Taylor, I would think about playing with Theo now, but keeping an eye on Chase. Then if Chase keeps improving look for him next year, but Phil should be the ultimate goal. I wholly agree that Taylor > Nick right now but I just don't see Phil dumping Nick short of a massive falloff over the next year. Would it be the best US men's pairing? Heck yes but I will be surprised if Phil dumps Nick again short of something serious. |
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Post by LongSpatch on Jun 4, 2018 23:57:21 GMT -5
trevor and tri could be a good team, they are good friends
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Post by 405LAX on Jun 5, 2018 1:06:49 GMT -5
trevor and tri could be a good team, they are good friends Trevor & Tri 2016 yes, not right now and who knows if ever again. As much as we want this to happen, can't pretend this is a possibility right now. |
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Post by guest2 on Jun 5, 2018 1:18:14 GMT -5
I don't think Taylor should be focused on Theo or Chase, both are just a means to an end. The guy he should be looking at is Phil. Taylor is already better than Nick and that gap is only going to increase. Nick is steady, but thats about it and Taylor needs to show Phil how much better he is and that means contending on the FIVB. I dont see Jake as being good enough for that, so its probably Theo unless Chase proves something very quickly. If I were Taylor, I would think about playing with Theo now, but keeping an eye on Chase. Then if Chase keeps improving look for him next year, but Phil should be the ultimate goal. I wholly agree that Taylor > Nick right now but I just don't see Phil dumping Nick short of a massive falloff over the next year. Would it be the best US men's pairing? Heck yes but I will be surprised if Phil dumps Nick again short of something serious. I agree this is not something on Phil's radar right now, but Taylor needs to kind of force the issue when he can. Maybe that's arranging to fly out to FL to practice with Phil/Nick with whoever his partner is or being very aggressive when the 38 year old Nick inevitably misses a few events with injuries or just lobbying Phil when he can. I dont know what Phil wants to do long term but I think Phil/Taylor is probably a 2-3 FIVB wins and 3-4 AVPs better than Nick/Phil over the next 2.5 years. Friendship is one thing but thats a lot of money to leave on the table |
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Post by JB Southpaw on Jun 5, 2018 6:58:51 GMT -5
I wholly agree that Taylor > Nick right now but I just don't see Phil dumping Nick short of a massive falloff over the next year. Would it be the best US men's pairing? Heck yes but I will be surprised if Phil dumps Nick again short of something serious. I agree this is not something on Phil's radar right now, but Taylor needs to kind of force the issue when he can. Maybe that's arranging to fly out to FL to practice with Phil/Nick with whoever his partner is or being very aggressive when the 38 year old Nick inevitably misses a few events with injuries or just lobbying Phil when he can. I dont know what Phil wants to do long term but I think Phil/Taylor is probably a 2-3 FIVB wins and 3-4 AVPs better than Nick/Phil over the next 2.5 years. Friendship is one thing but thats a lot of money to leave on the table I don't think Phil is thinking about 2020 right now. I'm sure after this season, He and Nick will map out goals and I'm not sure planning 2 years for 1 tournament is at the top of that list. |
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Post by tamz on Jun 5, 2018 7:10:59 GMT -5
I agree this is not something on Phil's radar right now, but Taylor needs to kind of force the issue when he can. Maybe that's arranging to fly out to FL to practice with Phil/Nick with whoever his partner is or being very aggressive when the 38 year old Nick inevitably misses a few events with injuries or just lobbying Phil when he can. I dont know what Phil wants to do long term but I think Phil/Taylor is probably a 2-3 FIVB wins and 3-4 AVPs better than Nick/Phil over the next 2.5 years. Friendship is one thing but thats a lot of money to leave on the table I don't think Phil is thinking about 2020 right now. I'm sure after this season, He and Nick will map out goals and I'm not sure planning 2 years for 1 tournament is at the top of that list. He said they are aiming for 2020. He also did say they don’t plan on flying out for just one tournament. They’ll try to group them together, unless that has changed since the Sandcast episode. Olympics qualifications start later this year so we’ll know then? |
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Post by JB Southpaw on Jun 5, 2018 7:32:41 GMT -5
I don't think Phil is thinking about 2020 right now. I'm sure after this season, He and Nick will map out goals and I'm not sure planning 2 years for 1 tournament is at the top of that list. He said they are aiming for 2020. He also did say they don’t plan on flying out for just one tournament. They’ll try to group them together, unless that has changed since the Sandcast episode. Olympics qualifications start later this year so we’ll know then? the 1 tournament I was referring to was the Olympics. |
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