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Post by n00b on Jun 16, 2018 21:49:28 GMT -5
You don't have to be Catholic to go to Notre Dame. What's your point? You're the one who said: "Catholic schools kids make up a HUGE chunk of elite volleyball athletes." I just commented that going to a Catholic school doesn't mean a student is Catholic. Non-Catholic parents send their kids to Catholic schools because they are good schools, not because they are Catholic. The same applies to Notre Dame. I did. I think that if going to a Catholic high school is a positive experience, they'll be more likely to be drawn to a Catholic university whether the family is Catholic or not.
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Post by redbeard2008 on Jun 16, 2018 21:54:42 GMT -5
You're the one who said: "Catholic schools kids make up a HUGE chunk of elite volleyball athletes."
I just commented that going to a Catholic school doesn't mean a student is Catholic. Non-Catholic parents send their kids to Catholic schools because they are good schools, not because they are Catholic. The same applies to Notre Dame. Nope. Not me. Sorry, that was Noob. My point remains as I stated it. Notre Dame isn't likely to have any special draw for volleyball players at "Catholic" high and prep schools, since many, maybe most, of those players are not Catholic. If they go there, it'll more likely be for the school or the program than for the religion.
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Post by Sorry Ass Sal on Jun 16, 2018 23:49:41 GMT -5
Sorry, that was Noob. My point remains as I stated it. Notre Dame isn't likely to have any special draw for volleyball players at "Catholic" high and prep schools, since many, maybe most, of those players are not Catholic. If they go there, it'll more likely be for the school or the program than for the religion. I think you underestimate the power of Notre Dame.
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Post by n00b on Jun 17, 2018 10:12:41 GMT -5
Sorry, that was Noob. My point remains as I stated it. Notre Dame isn't likely to have any special draw for volleyball players at "Catholic" high and prep schools, since many, maybe most, of those players are not Catholic. If they go there, it'll more likely be for the school or the program than for the religion. I actually totally agree. For a LOT of people, the main draw of Catholic schools is not the religious aspect but the very different culture and atmosphere of those universities. But I think those things ARE a big draw.
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Post by azvb on Jun 17, 2018 11:16:20 GMT -5
Sorry, that was Noob. My point remains as I stated it. Notre Dame isn't likely to have any special draw for volleyball players at "Catholic" high and prep schools, since many, maybe most, of those players are not Catholic. If they go there, it'll more likely be for the school or the program than for the religion. I actually totally agree. For a LOT of people, the main draw of Catholic schools is not the religious aspect but the very different culture and atmosphere of those universities. But I think those things ARE a big draw. And the nifty plaid pleated skirts. There is a Catholic High School in Phoenix that has a beautiful campus. They always have great athletic teams. I believe tuition is around $20,000. Are most Catholic schools segregated by sex? This school in Phoenix is, however the campuses are next door to each other.
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Post by n00b on Jun 17, 2018 12:14:46 GMT -5
I actually totally agree. For a LOT of people, the main draw of Catholic schools is not the religious aspect but the very different culture and atmosphere of those universities. But I think those things ARE a big draw. And the nifty plaid pleated skirts. There is a Catholic High School in Phoenix that has a beautiful campus. They always have great athletic teams. I believe tuition is around $20,000. Are most Catholic schools segregated by sex? This school in Phoenix is, however the campuses are next door to each other. Eh, I don't know if I'd say most but it's certainly common. Of the 9 Catholic schools in the PVB's top 13, 5 are all-girl and 4 are coed.
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Post by redbeard2008 on Jun 17, 2018 12:20:18 GMT -5
Sorry, that was Noob. My point remains as I stated it. Notre Dame isn't likely to have any special draw for volleyball players at "Catholic" high and prep schools, since many, maybe most, of those players are not Catholic. If they go there, it'll more likely be for the school or the program than for the religion. I actually totally agree. For a LOT of people, the main draw of Catholic schools is not the religious aspect but the very different culture and atmosphere of those universities. But I think those things ARE a big draw. Yep. Parents send their kids to Catholic schools for the excellence of the academic and, in some cases, athletic programs. They also teach the "classics", which public schools no longer do. Notre Dame might be a draw for some Catholic students, but not simply because they happen to attend a "Catholic" high or prep school.
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Post by rainbowbadger on Jun 17, 2018 13:02:24 GMT -5
I’ve seen several of the social media posts of kids who committed to ND under J-Mac say something along the lines of “Excited to announce that I will be continuing my athletic, academic, and FAITH career at Notre Dame.” (Emphasis mine.) The point I was trying to make is that J-Mac clearly embraced his Catholicism in his move to ND, and he was clearly playing that aspect up to some recruits.
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Post by mikegarrison on Jun 17, 2018 18:27:01 GMT -5
I’ve seen several of the social media posts of kids who committed to ND under J-Mac say something along the lines of “Excited to announce that I will be continuing my athletic, academic, and FAITH career at Notre Dame.” (Emphasis mine.) The point I was trying to make is that J-Mac clearly embraced his Catholicism in his move to ND, and he was clearly playing that aspect up to some recruits. Yes, well McLaughlin is certainly an Irish Catholic name and he was active in the Seattle Catholic community when he was here. Of course he couldn't use it for recruiting and such at a public school.
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Post by mikegarrison on Jun 17, 2018 18:57:14 GMT -5
There is a Catholic High School in Phoenix that has a beautiful campus. They always have great athletic teams. I believe tuition is around $20,000. Are most Catholic schools segregated by sex? This school in Phoenix is, however the campuses are next door to each other. The school I went to is now $17k/year. It's not particularly expensive as private high schools go. (When we went there my mother taught there, so my sister and I got a discount.) The schools that are single-sex are often run by "orders". (Jesuits are an order, for example.) In the Seattle area, I think there are two all-girl Catholic schools (Holy Names, run by the Sisters of the Holy Names of Jesus and Mary, and Forest Ridge, run by the Sacred Hearts). There is one all-boys school (O'Dea, run by the Christian Brothers). And there are four co-ed schools. Seattle Prep is run by the Jesuits. The other schools are Bishop Blanchet, Kennedy, and Eastside Catholic -- Blanchet and Kennedy are "diocesan", meaning run directly by the Archdiocese (ie. the office of the archbishop). I'm not sure about Eastside Catholic -- I seem to recall they were actually just founded by a bunch of parents who didn't want their kids to commute across the lake. Some schools are a lot cheaper than others. Usually the diocesan schools are less expensive -- they are sort of the "public schools" of the Catholic school system. O'Dea is $14K, Kennedy is $15K, Holy Names is $16K, Blanchet is $17K, Seattle Prep is $20K, Eastside is $23K, Forest Ridge is $32K ($60K as a boarding school). Notice that some of the single-sex schools are among the least expensive but one of them is the most expensive. All of these schools have dress codes (which also cover things like hair and jewelry, etc.). Forest Ridge is the only one that has uniforms:
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Post by redbeard2008 on Jun 18, 2018 0:37:45 GMT -5
The girls I knew who went to Catholic School smoked, drank, and swore like longshoremen...
Also, Archbishop Murphy HS in Everett and Bellarmine Prep (Jesuit) in Tacoma, both coed. Courtney Schwan went to Bellarmine.
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Post by Wolfgang on Jun 18, 2018 10:52:57 GMT -5
There is a Catholic High School in Phoenix that has a beautiful campus. They always have great athletic teams. I believe tuition is around $20,000. Are most Catholic schools segregated by sex? This school in Phoenix is, however the campuses are next door to each other. The school I went to is now $17k/year. It's not particularly expensive as private high schools go. (When we went there my mother taught there, so my sister and I got a discount.) The schools that are single-sex are often run by "orders". (Jesuits are an order, for example.) In the Seattle area, I think there are two all-girl Catholic schools (Holy Names, run by the Sisters of the Holy Names of Jesus and Mary, and Forest Ridge, run by the Sacred Hearts). There is one all-boys school (O'Dea, run by the Christian Brothers). And there are four co-ed schools. Seattle Prep is run by the Jesuits. The other schools are Bishop Blanchet, Kennedy, and Eastside Catholic -- Blanchet and Kennedy are "diocesan", meaning run directly by the Archdiocese (ie. the office of the archbishop). I'm not sure about Eastside Catholic -- I seem to recall they were actually just founded by a bunch of parents who didn't want their kids to commute across the lake. Some schools are a lot cheaper than others. Usually the diocesan schools are less expensive -- they are sort of the "public schools" of the Catholic school system. O'Dea is $14K, Kennedy is $15K, Holy Names is $16K, Blanchet is $17K, Seattle Prep is $20K, Eastside is $23K, Forest Ridge is $32K ($60K as a boarding school). Notice that some of the single-sex schools are among the least expensive but one of them is the most expensive. All of these schools have dress codes (which also cover things like hair and jewelry, etc.). Forest Ridge is the only one that has uniforms: I feel sorry for the girl standing far right. Her school sweater must be a hand-me-down from her older gargantuan sister. Also, all the school sweaters are different -- the school designation over the heart, the v-neck cut.
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Post by redbeard2008 on Jun 18, 2018 11:24:57 GMT -5
The girls I knew who went to Catholic School smoked, drank, and swore like longshoremen... Also, Archbishop Murphy HS in Everett and Bellarmine Prep (Jesuit) in Tacoma, both coed. Courtney Schwan went to Bellarmine. I'm pretty sure that says more about you than the school or the typical students there. And the crowd I ran around with - Fringies! Granted my "sample" was a small one. Still, one should not discount a certain counter-nun reaction as further "liberating" Catholic school girls, many of whom weren't even Catholic to begin with.
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Post by redbeard2008 on Jun 18, 2018 11:39:52 GMT -5
I feel sorry for the girl standing far right. Her school sweater must be a hand-me-down from her older gargantuan sister. Also, all the school sweaters are different -- the school designation over the heart, the v-neck cut. And the girl on the left looks to have outgrown hers. How many inches are showing above the knee? (The nuns look to have conceded defeat in "the battle of the hemline".)
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Post by Mocha on Jun 18, 2018 16:33:05 GMT -5
Get well JMac!
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