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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2018 22:53:37 GMT -5
I always thought that when a team wins or lose, the coach has pretty much to do with it. I thought that having a 6-2 system sucks for the team. I read that the ball is being set too close to the net for Gaskin. If that's the case, where's RAMS to let Noreen know or both players should let one another know? Looks like the girls on the team is playing with no heads...
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Post by wahinefan on Aug 27, 2018 23:24:41 GMT -5
I always thought that when a team wins or lose, the coach has pretty much to do with it. I thought that having a 6-2 system sucks for the team. I read that the ball is being set too close to the net for Gaskin. If that's the case, where's RAMS to let Noreen know or both players should let one another know? Looks like the girls on the team is playing with no heads... Even though I mentioned that the setters may be setting the ball to close to the net for Gaskin to be effective. I also, understand the setting placement for Gaskin will take some time. Gaskin has only been in Hawaii since the start of fall practice, and from what I understand Gaskin has not been able to practice every single time for some reason. Just hoping that by the time Conference play comes around, the setters and Gaskin will be on the same page. I also agree running a modified 6-2 system will not help Gaskin or the setters. Gaskin needs to get used to 1 setter right now to be effective, and vice versa.
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Post by brooselee on Aug 27, 2018 23:39:05 GMT -5
I think Robyn should join the P.C.A. It would do wonders for her mental heath and good for the kids. Anger and negative emotions just doesn’t foster positive atmosphere. This is not football so I don’t see the need to be all fired up and intense all the time. Can be just as productive with less negative emotion. Take a look at the group of coaches who follow the teaching of this organization. Very impressive list of coaches....including 2 of the most successful former UH football coaches Dick Tomey and June Jones. www.positivecoach.org/
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Post by wahinefan on Aug 27, 2018 23:39:26 GMT -5
I would love to compare Shoji during his second season as a head coach vs. RAMS in her second season re. the way they handled the media. Or, even Shoji at age 42 (1988) vs. RAMS at 42 (her current age). I wonder if they handled the media the same way at roughly the same stage in their respective careers. Or was Shoji always poised. I suspect Shoji had a bit of a temper and wasn't afraid to show it when responding to reporter's questions. I also wonder if Shoji blamed his players during those times (either second season as head coach or in 1988 at age 42, same age as RAMS). You have to give RAMS some latitude. She's learning on the job, not just coaching but also how to handle the media. She'll eventually get it. I look back at my own career (not as a head coach) and in my second year, I was still learning. Dave Shoji, from the start of his coaching career was an extremely strict disciplinarian. He stressed fundamentals, till the players started dreaming about it in their dreams. I still remember the times in the 80's, and 90's when he would invite Japan teams to come, and scrimmage the Wahine. He would have the Wahine players watch how the Japan team would practice. Just to show the Wahine how structured, and intense, the Japan team's practice was. Not until the last few years of Dave's coaching career did he mellow out. I still remember Robyn's comment when she became one of Dave's assistant coaches, how mellow his practice become compared to when she played for him. Like it, or not, Robyn is instilling the strict disciplinarian style of practice that Dave was known for, during most of his coaching career. The players need to get used to it. I do know the local players know what to expect, especially the ones who played for her when they were younger, meaning club ball.
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Post by nana3 on Aug 27, 2018 23:52:57 GMT -5
All of you who spend your time on here trash talking college athletes and their coaches are pretty pathetic. These girls are studying, working out and practicing almost every day. They are trying their best under extreme pressure from coaches, professors and their parents.
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Post by wahinefan on Aug 27, 2018 23:53:02 GMT -5
I think Robyn should join the P.C.A. It would do wonders for her mental heath and good for the kids. Anger and negative emotions just doesn’t foster positive atmosphere. This is not football so I don’t see the need to be all fired up and intense all the time. Can be just as productive with less negative emotion. Take a look at the group of coaches who follow the teaching of this organization. Very impressive list of coaches....including 2 of the most successful former UH football coaches Dick Tomey and June Jones. www.positivecoach.org/It is an impressive list, but only 1 Volleyball coach, Mary Wise, wonder why.
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Post by brooselee on Aug 27, 2018 23:58:00 GMT -5
Strict disciplinarian does not work all the time....especially in this era.
If you punish players by making them run till they puke, you could get sanctioned . The University of Maryland just got whacked after it was found out they they ran practice super hard and one player died. NCAA have mandated limit on practices and does not allow for schools to punish players by making them practice after a loss.
Robyn need to adjust her coaching style to the change of time. Old schools coaches like Bobby Knight, Woody Hayes, and Riley Wallace will not survive in these times.
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Post by brooselee on Aug 28, 2018 0:10:16 GMT -5
I think Robyn should join the P.C.A. It would do wonders for her mental heath and good for the kids. Anger and negative emotions just doesn’t foster positive atmosphere. This is not football so I don’t see the need to be all fired up and intense all the time. Can be just as productive with less negative emotion. Take a look at the group of coaches who follow the teaching of this organization. Very impressive list of coaches....including 2 of the most successful former UH football coaches Dick Tomey and June Jones. www.positivecoach.org/It is an impressive list, but only 1 Volleyball coach, Mary Wise, wonder why. Maybe some are already adopted their style but chose not to join the organization. If you look at some current and former coaches like Mike Sealy, Russ Rose, John Dunning, etc...they don’t give out negative vibes during matches. When things don’t go their way, you don’t see them screaming at players and jumping around. They remain calm, give them instructions and it rubs off on their team. If you want your team to remain calm, you have to exhibit that behavior yourself. If you all jacked up and ranting, how are expecting your players to focus when their hearts are beating fast and worrying about making the same mistake again?
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Post by wahinefan on Aug 28, 2018 0:26:58 GMT -5
Strict disciplinarian does not work all the time....especially in this era. If you punish players by making the run till they puke, you could get sancrioned. The University of Maryland just got whacked after it was found out they they ran practice super hard and one player died. NCAA have mandated limit on practices and does not allow for schools to punish players by making them practice after a loss. Robyn need to adjust her coaching style to the change of time. Old schools coaches like Bobby Knight, Woody Hayes, and Riley Wallace will not survive.in these rime. Robyn's coaching style has been manifested in what she has experienced playing for Dave Shoji, then for 3 coaches on 3 Olympic Teams. She has been through what does work, making it to the NCAA Championship Match playing for Dave Shoji, then winning a Silver Metal at the Olympics.
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Post by brooselee on Aug 28, 2018 0:38:59 GMT -5
Strict disciplinarian does not work all the time....especially in this era. If you punish players by making the run till they puke, you could get sancrioned. The University of Maryland just got whacked after it was found out they they ran practice super hard and one player died. NCAA have mandated limit on practices and does not allow for schools to punish players by making them practice after a loss. Robyn need to adjust her coaching style to the change of time. Old schools coaches like Bobby Knight, Woody Hayes, and Riley Wallace will not survive.in these rime. Robyn's coaching style has been manifested in what she has experienced playing for Dave Shoji, then for 3 coaches on 3 Olympic Teams. She has been through what does work, making it to the NCAA Championship Match playing for Dave Shoji, then winning a Silver Metal at the Olympics. Still got to learn to be flexible. If your team does not react well to that style then you have to adjust. Nobody wants to play for a coach with the “my way or the highway” mentality. Sound dictatorial and not fun at all. Most of these players are not going to go to the next level so this college experience will be it. Got to learn to get your message across better. Be a teacher and not a drill sergeant.
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Post by wahinefan on Aug 28, 2018 0:53:21 GMT -5
Robyn's coaching style has been manifested in what she has experienced playing for Dave Shoji, then for 3 coaches on 3 Olympic Teams. She has been through what does work, making it to the NCAA Championship Match playing for Dave Shoji, then winning a Silver Metal at the Olympics. Still got to learn to be flexible. If your team does not react well to that style then you have to adjust. Nobody wants to play for a coach with the “my way or the highway” mentality. Sound dictatorial and not fun at all. Most of these players are not going to go to the next level so this college experience will be it. Got to learn to get your message across better. Be a teacher and not a drill sergeant. I believe that is why Angelica is her main assistant coach. Going along with the thinking, Good Cop, Bad Cop. Robyn of course is the Bad Cop, the disciplinarian, Angelica is the Good Cop, the teacher. You can see it on the bench, Angelica is always calm and teaching. Whereas Robyn is more emotional, more tense.
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Post by Wolfgang on Aug 28, 2018 1:07:29 GMT -5
I would love to compare Shoji during his second season as a head coach vs. RAMS in her second season re. the way they handled the media. Or, even Shoji at age 42 (1988) vs. RAMS at 42 (her current age). I wonder if they handled the media the same way at roughly the same stage in their respective careers. Or was Shoji always poised. I suspect Shoji had a bit of a temper and wasn't afraid to show it when responding to reporter's questions. I also wonder if Shoji blamed his players during those times (either second season as head coach or in 1988 at age 42, same age as RAMS). You have to give RAMS some latitude. She's learning on the job, not just coaching but also how to handle the media. She'll eventually get it. I look back at my own career (not as a head coach) and in my second year, I was still learning. Dave Shoji, from the start of his coaching career was an extremely strict disciplinarian. He stressed fundamentals, till the players started dreaming about it in their dreams. I still remember the times in the 80's, and 90's when he would invite Japan teams to come, and scrimmage the Wahine. He would have the Wahine players watch how the Japan team would practice. Just to show the Wahine how structured, and intense, the Japan team's practice was. Not until the last few years of Dave's coaching career did he mellow out. I still remember Robyn's comment when she became one of Dave's assistant coaches, how mellow his practice become compared to when she played for him. Like it, or not, Robyn is instilling the strict disciplinarian style of practice that Dave was known for, during most of his coaching career. The players need to get used to it. I do know the local players know what to expect, especially the ones who played for her when they were younger, meaning club ball. I know all this. I was talking about Dave Shoji vs. RAMS re. the way they handled media questions.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2018 9:17:47 GMT -5
I think Robyn should join the P.C.A. It would do wonders for her mental heath and good for the kids. Anger and negative emotions just doesn’t foster positive atmosphere. This is not football so I don’t see the need to be all fired up and intense all the time. Can be just as productive with less negative emotion. Take a look at the group of coaches who follow the teaching of this organization. Very impressive list of coaches....including 2 of the most successful former UH football coaches Dick Tomey and June Jones. www.positivecoach.org/
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2018 9:20:05 GMT -5
There's a difference between being a coach and a leader and being a coach and police. You'll get better results by being a coach and a leader. Playing the blame game will result in disarray, division, hate and no positive output. Check out the whats going on nowadays with the guy in charge of our country. Division, hate, and no positive output.
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Aug 28, 2018 15:53:34 GMT -5
All of you who spend your time on here trash talking college athletes and their coaches are pretty pathetic. These girls are studying, working out and practicing almost every day. They are trying their best under extreme pressure from coaches, professors and their parents. Who's mada dis? just joking. You are correct. Mahalo for the reminder.
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