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Post by WahineFan44 on May 22, 2019 21:22:44 GMT -5
Elliot is a Brilliant recruiter ( But I mean its University of Texas, From what Ive gathered about the campus and Academics, It isnt too hard to recruit there) but anyone can tell you he is not the best coach in the game. Is he awful? No. But is he on the level of Shoji, Cook, Rose, Heather Olmstead (Who I think is BRILLIANT), Fisher etc? Absolutely not. But I still Wish Hawaii could land the recruits texas does because if they did with Hawaii level of developement, it would be insane. Keep telling yourself that in order to sleep better.
So easy to recruit to Texas that Mick Haley and Jim Moore had no trouble recruiting to Texas at the same level.
Too bad your coaches don't have the personality and work ethic to recruit at a level that makes you happy; just gonna have to live with that deficiency as a coach.
Bye. You always get sp uptight when someone even REMOTELY has anything to say about Texas. If you REALLY think that University of Texas is hard to recruit too, youre delusional. I CLEARLY stated he is a brilliant recruiter and I have said on Numerous occasions that he is one of the best, if not the best in the game at it. You really need to learn to take criticism better.
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Post by WahineFan44 on May 22, 2019 21:23:36 GMT -5
Some teams with elite setters in the last decade couldn't do better than one Final Four a piece, and zero championships; folks forget it's a team game. A good setter can only do so much. Texas makes the final four because their hitters are other worldly 90 percent of the time. Give Carlini texas hitters and she has 3-4 national championships under her belt.
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Post by horns1 on May 22, 2019 21:26:00 GMT -5
Keep telling yourself that in order to sleep better.
So easy to recruit to Texas that Mick Haley and Jim Moore had no trouble recruiting to Texas at the same level.
Too bad your coaches don't have the personality and work ethic to recruit at a level that makes you happy; just gonna have to live with that deficiency as a coach.
Bye. You always get sp uptight when someone even REMOTELY has anything to say about Texas. If you REALLY think that University of Texas is hard to recruit too, youre delusional. I CLEARLY stated he is a brilliant recruiter and I have said on Numerous occasions that he is one of the best, if not the best in the game at it. You really need to learn to take criticism better. I actually will post as I please, just as you do. If you don't expect a reply to your opinion and can't handle the criticism, you don't have to post one.
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Post by horns1 on May 22, 2019 21:28:08 GMT -5
Some teams with elite setters in the last decade couldn't do better than one Final Four a piece, and zero championships; folks forget it's a team game. A good setter can only do so much. Texas makes the final four because their hitters are other worldly 90 percent of the time. Give Carlini texas hitters and she has 3-4 national championships under her belt. Well, then it sucks for Carlini and Texas that she went to Wisconsin. Everyone will have to live with it.
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May 22, 2019 21:45:22 GMT -5
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Post by bball on May 22, 2019 21:45:22 GMT -5
Texas has recruited a top 10 overall recruit/top 3 rated setter every 3/4 years (average window for setter replacement) for over a decade...Allison, Collins, Shook, eventually Cabello were all high rated recruits. How much more "SOLID" do you want in the recruiting? If you think the setting his the issue year after year, despite the obvious talent, then perhaps the problem isn't the players, it's the coach. I truly believe coaching is the issue at Texas. Texas typically has teams that should always be top 2 in the nation and make the NCAA finals, but doesn't because players don't develop as well as they could elsewhere or with a different coach. Maybe..... but more level of play. Texas would perform much better in the tourney if they were pushed to get better in the Big 12.
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May 22, 2019 21:49:26 GMT -5
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Post by vbsam16 on May 22, 2019 21:49:26 GMT -5
I truly believe coaching is the issue at Texas. Texas typically has teams that should always be top 2 in the nation and make the NCAA finals, but doesn't because players don't develop as well as they could elsewhere or with a different coach. Maybe..... but more level of play. Texas would perform much better in the tourney if they were pushed to get better in the Big 12. That’s a good point I didn’t think of. TCU is bringing in a good class and Baylor is only getting better. Maybe they’ll start feeling the pressure soon. I wonder how Texas would do in the Big Ten. I wonder if they would really step it up with all that tough competition every week.
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Post by horns1 on May 22, 2019 21:53:02 GMT -5
I truly believe coaching is the issue at Texas. Texas typically has teams that should always be top 2 in the nation and make the NCAA finals, but doesn't because players don't develop as well as they could elsewhere or with a different coach. Maybe..... but more level of play. Texas would perform much better in the tourney if they were pushed to get better in the Big 12. If that were true, that doesn't explain why Texas was able to beat B1G teams like Nebraska 3-0 in the 2016 national semi-finals, and Minnesota 3-1 in the 2015 national semi-finals despite playing in the Big 12. SMFH @ the crap posters are throwing at the wall today.
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Post by ay2013 on May 22, 2019 21:55:19 GMT -5
I truly believe coaching is the issue at Texas. Texas typically has teams that should always be top 2 in the nation and make the NCAA finals, but doesn't because players don't develop as well as they could elsewhere or with a different coach. Maybe..... but more level of play. Texas would perform much better in the tourney if they were pushed to get better in the Big 12. I don't think I buy this argument. Over the last 20 years you see plenty of talented programs making strong tournament runs playing in conferences that don't give them much of a challenge. Texas has done EXTREMELY well for quite some time...in fact, I'd argue that they have been the most consistently great program of the last decade or so along with Penn State. Once you get to the final four, I think it's just a crap shoot a lot of the time. You are facing equally talented teams, all things considered.
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Post by ay2013 on May 22, 2019 22:24:41 GMT -5
I truly believe coaching is the issue at Texas. Texas typically has teams that should always be top 2 in the nation and make the NCAA finals, but doesn't because players don't develop as well as they could elsewhere or with a different coach. If Coach Elliott recruited liberos and DS’s like he does hitters they would obviously be great in those areas. Yogi- #4 rated libero in her class Palmer- #5 rated libero in her class Neal- #1 rated libero in her class McCoy- #1 rated libero in her class Iosia is a top 3 libero in her class. *shrug*
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Post by WahineFan44 on May 23, 2019 0:48:31 GMT -5
If Coach Elliott recruited liberos and DS’s like he does hitters they would obviously be great in those areas. Yogi- #4 rated libero in her class Palmer- #5 rated libero in her class Neal- #1 rated libero in her class McCoy- #1 rated libero in her class Iosia is a top 3 libero in her class. *shrug* Was Neal listed as a libero? She became a pretty damn good OH by her senior year
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Post by ay2013 on May 23, 2019 0:56:48 GMT -5
Yogi- #4 rated libero in her class Palmer- #5 rated libero in her class Neal- #1 rated libero in her class McCoy- #1 rated libero in her class Iosia is a top 3 libero in her class. *shrug* Was Neal listed as a libero? She became a pretty damn good OH by her senior year yes
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Post by hornfanaustin on May 23, 2019 6:55:55 GMT -5
Some teams with elite setters in the last decade couldn't do better than one Final Four a piece, and zero championships; folks forget it's a team game. A good setter can only do so much. Texas makes the final four because their hitters are other worldly 90 percent of the time. Give Carlini texas hitters and she has 3-4 national championships under her belt. OR
Give Texas hitters Carlini and they have 3-4 national championships under their belt!
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2019 7:31:55 GMT -5
If Coach Elliott recruited liberos and DS’s like he does hitters they would obviously be great in those areas. Yogi- #4 rated libero in her class Palmer- #5 rated libero in her class Neal- #1 rated libero in her class McCoy- #1 rated libero in her class Iosia is a top 3 libero in her class. *shrug* The key to recruiting is not recruiting kids with a number by their name, but true athleticism and coach-ability. Kids who commit to Texas, Stanford, Nebraska, etc., get a big boost to their recruiting number.
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May 23, 2019 11:42:54 GMT -5
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Post by WahineFan44 on May 23, 2019 11:42:54 GMT -5
A good setter can only do so much. Texas makes the final four because their hitters are other worldly 90 percent of the time. Give Carlini texas hitters and she has 3-4 national championships under her belt. OR
Give Texas hitters Carlini and they have 3-4 national championships under their belt!
That doesn’t really help your case....
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Post by ay2013 on May 25, 2019 2:56:15 GMT -5
Yogi- #4 rated libero in her class Palmer- #5 rated libero in her class Neal- #1 rated libero in her class McCoy- #1 rated libero in her class Iosia is a top 3 libero in her class. *shrug* The key to recruiting is not recruiting kids with a number by their name, but true athleticism and coach-ability. Kids who commit to Texas, Stanford, Nebraska, etc., get a big boost to their recruiting number. I don't get bogged down in the nuances of prep rankings. There are plenty of hits and misses across the board at ALL programs....All I'm saying is that in the last decade Texas has recruited what has been, as objective as possible when it comes to the small and generally unimportant world that is college volleyball, highly rated setters AND backcourt players. My point is that *If* people are unhappy with those positions year after year, then perhaps the problem isn't the actual players.
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