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Post by indyrun on Dec 20, 2018 20:44:23 GMT -5
The only thing that stands out her are the digs. Yikes. JP wasn’t exactly a defensive prodigy, so for MA’s numbers to be significantly worse is troubling. "Troubling"? You're comparing raw stats of the best setter in the entire country on the #3 team in the country against a freshman on a team that didn't even make the playoffs and you believe the differences are "troubling"? Thanks for your assessment but I think I'll wait until I see how she plays after the Illinois coaching staff has a chance to train and prepare her. The fact she was the #7 recruit from high school, played on the US Junior National Team, and earned all conference honors at Auburn seems to indicate she has considerable ability. I don't find that very troubling at all. Thank you. And, while I know this is going to be tough for a while, I'm thinking and hoping we can - SOON - quit putting the pressure of one of the best setters in the country on the shoulders of whomever of the 2 - Allison & Brown - end up setting for us. Let them compete in practices for the #1 spot, and NOT feel they have to be another JP. That's not going to happen - even if one turns out to be a great setter down the line, she will be her "own great". Let's give them a break, quit the pre, pre-season comparing, and just enjoy what it looks like we might have for the next few years. I'm excited to see these 2 young ladies duke it out, and also excited to see Hinton, I believe, coming in early. Know what that did for Brandi and the Illini. Sure great when you can find the great athlete and student that's taken care of academics a semester early.
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Post by ilalum92 on Dec 20, 2018 21:14:20 GMT -5
I think Mica is a great player. Do I think she is a great setter yet? no. I think she has a lot to work on this spring with Tamas and crew to run this B1G team. I think we may see Allison and Brown start the season with a 6-2 and maybe once Allison gets better at being a frontrow setter she take over and use the 5-1. ? She knows how to be a front row setter. This is pure speculation. To run a 6-2, you need 4 pin hitters. We barely had 3 this season. Holzman, Collins, Holliwell or Bruna at OH 2, Beth & Megan at OPP, Quade at OH 1. a 6-2 would be easy. Hollowell looks to be at least 6'5" now, long arms too. Does she have any vertical at all? Is she on 4 year scholie?
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Post by tallguy86 on Dec 20, 2018 21:42:06 GMT -5
I’d be really surprised if MA doesn’t run a 5-1. She did all last year. I understand she’s coming home, but if she’s as competitive as we hope, she wouldn’t have come without assurance that it’s her show.
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Post by huskerjen on Dec 20, 2018 22:53:46 GMT -5
I’d be really surprised if MA doesn’t run a 5-1. She did all last year. I understand she’s coming home, but if she’s as competitive as we hope, she wouldn’t have come without assurance that it’s her show. You can pretty much bank on it. Stats are nice, but context matters. Tamas is a good setter coach and Mica will have much better firepower around her in Illinoisthan she did at Auburn. Setting as a true freshman is tough for just about anyone, but she has a lot of experiential lessons to build on that Brown doesn't have, most fundamentally, understanding the speed of the game and how much information needs to be processed quickly under live bullets.
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Post by n00b on Dec 20, 2018 23:30:54 GMT -5
I’d be really surprised if MA doesn’t run a 5-1. She did all last year. I understand she’s coming home, but if she’s as competitive as we hope, she wouldn’t have come without assurance that it’s her show. You can pretty much bank on it. Stats are nice, but context matters. Tamas is a good setter coach and Mica will have much better firepower around her in Illinoisthan she did at Auburn. Setting as a true freshman is tough for just about anyone, but she has a lot of experiential lessons to build on that Brown doesn't have, most fundamentally, understanding the speed of the game and how much information needs to be processed quickly under live bullets. Brown playing against Illinois's side A might have prepared her better than Allison setting against Mississippi State (and losing).
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2018 23:39:16 GMT -5
I’d be really surprised if MA doesn’t run a 5-1. She did all last year. I understand she’s coming home, but if she’s as competitive as we hope, she wouldn’t have come without assurance that it’s her show. Zero chance Allison isn't in a 5-1 for the rest of her career at Illinois. She's better than Poulter in some respects, in my opinion. She's a great mix of athleticism, control, technique, charisma, and moxie.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2018 23:41:10 GMT -5
Comparing freshman stats for Poulter and Allison, Poulter's numbers listed first: Pts/set: 1.09 vs 1.11 Sets: 104 vs 105 Kills: 56 vs 79 Pct.: .241 vs .174 Digs: 223 vs 191 Blocks: 81 vs 50 Assists: 1088 vs 1055 The only thing that stands out her are the digs. Yikes. JP wasn’t exactly a defensive prodigy, so for MA’s numbers to be significantly worse is troubling. Please leave
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Post by Disc808 on Dec 20, 2018 23:58:56 GMT -5
Allison is better than Hames sorry
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Post by alt on Dec 21, 2018 5:03:33 GMT -5
I’d be really surprised if MA doesn’t run a 5-1. She did all last year. I understand she’s coming home, but if she’s as competitive as we hope, she wouldn’t have come without assurance that it’s her show. Zero chance Allison isn't in a 5-1 for the rest of her career at Illinois. She's better than Poulter in some respects, in my opinion. She's a great mix of athleticism, control, technique, charisma, and moxie. I hope MA is half as good as Poulter. Poulter will go down as an Illini great
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Post by notpriddy (COIF) on Dec 21, 2018 6:19:00 GMT -5
My concern for next year's team is chemistry. With 12 returning players and eight or more newbies, Tamas and staff will have 20 or more (math is the wrong side of my brain) squad members. Four of the returners will be seniors. The most vocal senior with proven leadership qualities is Beth Prince. She will be a 5 year member of the squad, and I think will be heavily relied on by the coaching staff to bring the old and new Illini together. Illinois may have to come up with a more appropriate motto for next year's team than Nebraska's "We Over Me". Something as simple as "TOGETHER!". It should be obvious to anyone who knows anything about collegiate volleyball that Coach Tamas and staff can teach great volleyball technique and strategies. They will show us next season if they can integrate 20+ individual women into one cohesive, goal-directed team.
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Post by vbkahuna on Dec 21, 2018 9:23:35 GMT -5
My concern for next year's team is chemistry. With 12 returning players and eight or more newbies, Tamas and staff will have 20 or more (math is the wrong side of my brain) squad members. Four of the returners will be seniors. The most vocal senior with proven leadership qualities is Beth Prince. She will be a 5 year member of the squad, and I think will be heavily relied on by the coaching staff to bring the old and new Illini together. Illinois may have to come up with a more appropriate motto for next year's team than Nebraska's "We Over Me". Something as simple as "TOGETHER!". It should be obvious to anyone who knows anything about collegiate volleyball that Coach Tamas and staff can teach great volleyball technique and strategies. They will show us next season if they can integrate 20+ individual women into one cohesive, goal-directed team. Ok, I'm a professional mathematician...don't try this at home. The 2018 roster had 15 players. 3 graduated, leaving 12, carry 1 transfer, plus 4 new recruits (Hinton, Holzman, Swanson, Collins), and maybe late add Bruna...makes 17 maybe 18. As for the motto, here ya go with a few possibilities: "All for I and I for all!" (The Illini Musketeers) "I is US" (Grammar sucks, but our team doesn't) "Yes, dammit, there is an I in Team!" (And don't make us prove it) "The 17/18 AmIgas" (Wherever there is injustice, you will find us...) I have more...but I'm keeping a few in reserve just in case the Nebraska fans try to steal any of the above and just substitute an "N" for the "I".
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Post by notpriddy (COIF) on Dec 21, 2018 9:37:29 GMT -5
To add to what I said about rising 5th year senior volleyball player, Beth Prince, being a leader, this is she at the Final Four introducing her teammates for ESPN:
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Post by notpriddy (COIF) on Dec 21, 2018 9:46:54 GMT -5
How about, "This Is Us" after a favorite television series on NBC...(okay...maybe not so good!)
AND.....according to Rich Kern we have seven newcomers for 2019:
Allison, Mica Listed on: 12/20/2018 S 6-2 Auburn Champaign, IL Chi, Madison Listed on: 12/19/2018 DS/L 5-8 Beckman Irvine, CA A4 Volley Collins, Kennedy Listed on: 6/11/2018 MB 6-2 Zion Benton Zion, IL Sky High VBC Eske, Alyssa Listed on: 2/27/2018 DS 5-0 King Milwaukee, WI Sky High VBC Hinton, Rylee Listed on: 6/5/2017 MB 6-2 Central Champaign, IL Illini Elite VBC Holzman, Ellie Listed on: 4/11/2017 MB/OH 6-2 Mt. Carmel Academy New Orleans, LA Asics Louisiana Swanson, Kyla Listed on: 7/17/2017 MB/OH 6-3 Minden Minden, NE VCN Volleyball Club Nebraska ALSO...I was including Bruna and perhaps one more walk-on who wants to be part of the juggernaut that is Chris Tamas' Illini!
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Post by vbkahuna on Dec 21, 2018 10:20:17 GMT -5
OK, OK, due to popular demand, one more motto:
I-L-L...I-N-It to wI-N-It
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Post by n00b on Dec 21, 2018 10:49:56 GMT -5
I’d be really surprised if MA doesn’t run a 5-1. She did all last year. I understand she’s coming home, but if she’s as competitive as we hope, she wouldn’t have come without assurance that it’s her show. Zero chance Allison isn't in a 5-1 for the rest of her career at Illinois. She's better than Poulter in some respects, in my opinion. She's a great mix of athleticism, control, technique, charisma, and moxie. Again, Auburn was NOT that bad that a setter as good as you're making her seem would lead that group to such an abysmal record. Either her technical or leadership skills must've been terribly lacking.
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