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Post by vbkahuna on Dec 21, 2018 11:33:55 GMT -5
Zero chance Allison isn't in a 5-1 for the rest of her career at Illinois. She's better than Poulter in some respects, in my opinion. She's a great mix of athleticism, control, technique, charisma, and moxie. Again, Auburn was NOT that bad that a setter as good as you're making her seem would lead that group to such an abysmal record. Either her technical or leadership skills must've been terribly lacking. OK, let's go with your argument (bad team record means bad setter) for the moment. So you're saying that Poulter's technical or leadership skills had to have been lacking in 2016 (17-14, no playoffs) compared to 2017 (23-11, Sweet 16) and 2018 (32-4, Final Four)? Hmmm, what other reason could there possibly be? Who knows, maybe Allison will similarly "find" her technical and leadership skills at Illinois. Or something like that.
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Post by n00b on Dec 21, 2018 11:39:15 GMT -5
Again, Auburn was NOT that bad that a setter as good as you're making her seem would lead that group to such an abysmal record. Either her technical or leadership skills must've been terribly lacking. OK, let's go with your argument (bad team record means bad setter) for the moment. So you're saying that Poulter's technical or leadership skills had to have been lacking in 2016 (17-14, no playoffs) compared to 2017 (23-11, Sweet 16) and 2018 (32-4, Final Four)? Hmmm, what other reason could there possibly be? Who knows, maybe Allison will similarly "find" her technical and leadership skills at Illinois. Or something like that. Illinois was still top 25 in Pablo that year. Auburn finished this season at 105. Illinois went 10-10 in the Big Ten while Auburn went 5-13 in the SEC. But sure, same thing.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2018 11:48:35 GMT -5
Zero chance Allison isn't in a 5-1 for the rest of her career at Illinois. She's better than Poulter in some respects, in my opinion. She's a great mix of athleticism, control, technique, charisma, and moxie. Again, Auburn was NOT that bad that a setter as good as you're making her seem would lead that group to such an abysmal record. Either her technical or leadership skills must've been terribly lacking. Illinois couldn’t make the tournament with Poulter. Edit: someone already made this point whoops.
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Post by ilalum92 on Dec 21, 2018 14:01:35 GMT -5
Again, Auburn was NOT that bad that a setter as good as you're making her seem would lead that group to such an abysmal record. Either her technical or leadership skills must've been terribly lacking. Illinois couldn’t make the tournament with Poulter. Edit: someone already made this point whoops. Our offense that year was as a Frosh, Stirzak as OH 1. Naya Crittendon at OPP and Stadick in the MB with one hand. Ali was a soph and had shoulder issues . It’s no wonder we didn’t make the tourney. Our offense was terrible and couldn’t terminate if their lives depended on it
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2018 14:11:50 GMT -5
Illinois couldn’t make the tournament with Poulter. Edit: someone already made this point whoops. Our offense that year was as a Frosh, Stirzak as OH 1. Naya Crittendon at OPP and Stadick in the MB with one hand. Ali was a soph and had shoulder issues . It’s no wonder we didn’t make the tourney. Our offense was terrible and couldn’t terminate if their lives depended on it You're kinda missing the point.
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Post by n00b on Dec 21, 2018 14:13:45 GMT -5
Illinois couldn’t make the tournament with Poulter. Edit: someone already made this point whoops. Our offense that year was as a Frosh, Stirzak as OH 1. Naya Crittendon at OPP and Stadick in the MB with one hand. Ali was a soph and had shoulder issues . It’s no wonder we didn’t make the tourney. Our offense was terrible and couldn’t terminate if their lives depended on it And Poulter STILL had them at .500 in the Big Ten and Top 25 of Pablo.
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Post by combes on Dec 21, 2018 16:01:17 GMT -5
Poulter is an all time great setter. Unfair to compare anyone who takes her place to her at this point.
But Illinois added the #7 rated recruit who was Illinois Gatorade POY, won a high school state title, won a National club title, set for the gold medal winning USA U18 national team, and made the freshman SEC team.
I would think we should be thrilled with this. It’s like getting a five star transfer in basketball.
If Diana Brown beats her out, then Brown is a heck of a setter. I know Mica didn’t come here to ride the bench, though. Going to be exciting to watch what happens.
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Post by brucks on Dec 21, 2018 16:59:50 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2018 17:30:11 GMT -5
Our offense that year was as a Frosh, Stirzak as OH 1. Naya Crittendon at OPP and Stadick in the MB with one hand. Ali was a soph and had shoulder issues . It’s no wonder we didn’t make the tourney. Our offense was terrible and couldn’t terminate if their lives depended on it And Poulter STILL had them at .500 in the Big Ten and Top 25 of Pablo. I mean, I'm kinda playing devil's advocate, because it's not exactly a secret that I've been critical of Poulter's leadership/ability to win, etc., but it's also not a secret that I think Hambly sucks. For some reason, she wasn't able to max out at Auburn and clearly didn't feel that the culture was a good fit. That isn't evidence that will be incapable of maxing out at Illinois. The foundation is certainly there.
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Post by oldmanvb on Dec 21, 2018 18:55:22 GMT -5
Jordyn was more comfortable and played better with a fast offense and obviously thrived when she got the middles more involved. Some setters are more comfortable with a slower pace. primarily sending the ball outside and not as fast as we've become used to. Does anyone know anything about Mica's setting tendencies?
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Post by ilalum92 on Dec 21, 2018 23:38:28 GMT -5
Our offense that year was as a Frosh, Stirzak as OH 1. Naya Crittendon at OPP and Stadick in the MB with one hand. Ali was a soph and had shoulder issues . It’s no wonder we didn’t make the tourney. Our offense was terrible and couldn’t terminate if their lives depended on it You're kinda missing the point. I got it. Also your claim that Allison is better than JP in many ways - you must be drunk
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Post by ilalum92 on Dec 21, 2018 23:40:41 GMT -5
And Poulter STILL had them at .500 in the Big Ten and Top 25 of Pablo. I mean, I'm kinda playing devil's advocate, because it's not exactly a secret that I've been critical of Poulter's leadership/ability to win, etc., but it's also not a secret that I think Hambly sucks. For some reason, she wasn't able to max out at Auburn and clearly didn't feel that the culture was a good fit. That isn't evidence that will be incapable of maxing out at Illinois. The foundation is certainly there. One thing we can agree on — Hambly sucks
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Post by ilalum92 on Dec 21, 2018 23:42:50 GMT -5
Also- Auburn seems to get top setters . They landed Alexa Filey who was the top rated recruit a bunch of years ago and then Mica. Seems an unlikely destination for top setter recruits
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2018 23:55:53 GMT -5
You're kinda missing the point. I got it. You really didn’t though, as evidenced by your comment.
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Post by notpriddy (COIF) on Dec 22, 2018 6:07:20 GMT -5
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