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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2018 16:50:29 GMT -5
If you're the last player to touch the ball before it hits the ground, the other team gets a point. Weird. Thanks for sharing,
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Post by Scipio Aemilianus on Dec 21, 2018 17:10:17 GMT -5
I have yet to hear a setter advocate for taking away the double call. It’s a good rule and needs to stay.
It’s dumb to say “technically every ball is a double”. Okay then, every pass is a double too because it goes off one forearm than the other if you really slow it down. And every spike goes off a players palm behind the ball then touches their fingers on top of the ball, which could be a double.
Stop with all that. Everyone here knows what a bad double is and what a clean set is. The more refs are trained, the better and more consistent they are. I hate the whole “everything is a double in slow motion” and “don’t call spin, call what you see”. A properly attempted set that comes out of the hands with lots of spin is a double.
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Post by Wiswell on Dec 21, 2018 17:13:54 GMT -5
If you're the last player to touch the ball before it hits the ground, the other team gets a point. Weird. Not if it hits the ground on the other side of the net inbounds.
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Post by Wolfgang on Dec 21, 2018 17:14:38 GMT -5
If you're the last player to touch the ball before it hits the ground, the other team gets a point. Weird. Not if it hits the ground on the other side of the net inbounds. This explains my utter bewilderment.
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Post by Brutus Buckeye on Dec 21, 2018 17:39:49 GMT -5
What is the deal with this coffee table? I don't s e any coffee on it. And it's not even a very good table!
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Post by dexter on Dec 21, 2018 17:51:06 GMT -5
I didn't see where someone talked about the advantage of having one side closer to the setter or outside. I feel that is a huge advantage (depending on who is sucking worse at the time) to be able to fire someone up, give directions, encourage etc.
To add one: Why do we set from and consequently pass to the current location? I have at least two thoughts on this, but while we are questioning the game, let's question this too.
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Post by oldunc on Dec 21, 2018 18:17:29 GMT -5
Why do players stand instead of sit on chairs during play Most indoor sports sit on chairs aka (“ bench warmers) That's actually a major reason why they stand. Volleyball and basketball are often played in the same gym on the same court. Many college volleyball players were dual volleyball/basketball athletes in high school. Thus, it becomes important for volleyball to have a distinct identity from basketball, especially since basketball is so much more popular. This also partly explains why volleyball players wear spandex: if they wanted to wear basketball shorts, they would have chosen to play basketball instead. Actually, I believe that volleyball is more popular with women than basketball. I'm not so sure that the type of shorts is a crucial factor in deciding which sport to concentrate on, but I do remember Angie Pressey saying that she liked being able to wear makeup and wear more flattering shorts- I'm none too sure how serious she was about it.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Dec 21, 2018 18:26:21 GMT -5
That's actually a major reason why they stand. Volleyball and basketball are often played in the same gym on the same court. Many college volleyball players were dual volleyball/basketball athletes in high school. Thus, it becomes important for volleyball to have a distinct identity from basketball, especially since basketball is so much more popular. This also partly explains why volleyball players wear spandex: if they wanted to wear basketball shorts, they would have chosen to play basketball instead. Actually, I believe that volleyball is more popular with women than basketball. I'm not so sure that the type of shorts is a crucial factor in deciding which sport to concentrate on, but I do remember Angie Pressey saying that she liked being able to wear makeup and wear more flattering shorts- I'm none too sure how serious she was about it. I think a big part of this has to be how girls' basketball is played at the youth level. If you're a talented post player (which will be most of them with the height for VB), you're spending your youth basketball days getting absolutely mauled in the name of "tough defense" while not getting the foul calls you deserve. It's a really unpleasant experience for a lot of young women.
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Post by mikegarrison on Dec 21, 2018 18:33:05 GMT -5
Actually, I believe that volleyball is more popular with women than basketball. I'm not so sure that the type of shorts is a crucial factor in deciding which sport to concentrate on, but I do remember Angie Pressey saying that she liked being able to wear makeup and wear more flattering shorts- I'm none too sure how serious she was about it. I think a big part of this has to be how girls' basketball is played at the youth level. If you're a talented post player (which will be most of them with the height for VB), you're spending your youth basketball days getting absolutely mauled in the name of "tough defense" while not getting the foul calls you deserve. It's a really unpleasant experience for a lot of young women. Too true. I remember when basketball (particularly at the non-pro levels) used to be considered a non-contact sport. I mean, yeah, there was always some contact, but the kind of physical play inside the three-point line that is allowed these days used to be an automatic foul.
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Post by indyrun on Dec 23, 2018 19:48:18 GMT -5
The OP raises some good points, but I think the reasons for switching sides are pretty obvious. And many sports do it. Football. Basketball. Hockey. Tennis. Lacrosse. Sex. Badminton. Water polo (if you can call that a sport). To which are you referencing, Water polo or Lacrosse (or tennis?) - you need to make your posts clearer (or more clear or easier to understand...etc).
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Post by oldunc on Dec 23, 2018 19:52:19 GMT -5
The OP raises some good points, but I think the reasons for switching sides are pretty obvious. And many sports do it. Football. Basketball. Hockey. Tennis. Lacrosse. Sex. Badminton. Water polo (if you can call that a sport). To which are you referencing, Water polo or Lacrosse (or tennis?) - you need to make your posts clearer (or more clear or easier to understand...etc). Be careful what you wish for.
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Post by karellen on Dec 23, 2018 20:19:47 GMT -5
OF COURSE double-hits should be called. Why shouldn't they?
We have already legislated too much skill out of the game (doubles on first contact, net serve, libero means some people will NEVER play backrow, incidental net, etc...). Can we PLEASE keep some skill in the game?
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Post by oldmanvb on Dec 23, 2018 23:16:44 GMT -5
Net serves were eliminated not because players lacked skill, but because officials lacked skill, a much more serious and pervasive problem in my opinion.
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Post by Wolfgang on Dec 23, 2018 23:25:45 GMT -5
I don't want refs calling double contact or BHE on balls set by the awkward MH. Even if there's hardly any spin, they still call it. Discrimination, I say.
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Post by Scipio Aemilianus on Dec 23, 2018 23:32:58 GMT -5
Serves that nick the tape should be allowed. It’s dumb to have a “let serve” be replayed. It’s dumb to say a serve that grazes the net should be an error is dumb.
We already have enough missed serves today. Spikes are allowed to hit the tape and trickle over. It takes 12+ seconds to reset and serve again. No one wants replays. Luck is a part of sports.
And no, I don’t wanna hear about teams purposely trying to served tricklers off the tape. That’s idiotic. No decent coach does that. It’s a dumb strategy. You wanna serve low to the tape but not trying to get a trickle over ace on purpose. That’s insane.
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