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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2019 14:22:02 GMT -5
Not trying to be a jerk, this is a serious question. If Canadian college volleyball has teams that are on D1 level and pays athletes to train (attend school), why does Canada never make the olympics? The Dominican Republic has only has 1/3rd of the population of Canada and is truly a third world country and people are saying they will take the americas bid over canada. what gives?
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Post by newfoundballer15 on Jan 9, 2019 15:31:02 GMT -5
Not trying to be a jerk, this is a serious question. If Canadian college volleyball has teams that are on D1 level and pays athletes to train (attend school), why does Canada never make the olympics? The Dominican Republic has only has 1/3rd of the population of Canada and is truly a third world country and people are saying they will take the americas bid over canada. what gives? The number of high level teams competing in Canada is very small. They are doing better in terms of international success though. They took down Dominican at the Pan Am cup this past year. Things are moving in the right direction it's just slow moving.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2019 18:03:06 GMT -5
Thanks for asking - get ready for the rant........ Canadian volleyball players do get SOME scholarship funding to play at the university level and most top athletes in the sport get the opportunity to play USport, however the funding is very small and can only cover tuition cost. Canada West Conference for example can cover the entire tuition for the year, but OUA for example maxes out at $4500 per year. Tuition can be and usually is a lot higher than that. Some/Many universities have some scholarship money, but not everyone will get their entire tuition paid, lots of partials. Academics is also an issue. While in the US (I am generalizing here) an athlete needs to meet minimum NCAA requirements to get admitted to the University of their choice, Canadian schools have no flexibility for athletes. You need to be admitted purely on your academic strengths BEFORE you can become an athlete. That limits many kids from playing USport because the Canadian school system is very hard and you need to get 85-90% for admittance. Think of it like Stanford - first you need admittance, then you can be an athlete. Many top Canadian athletes go to US Universities, which means they go to school June - April every year. If that athlete wants to participate and qualifies for Team Canada they can NOT play in tournaments during those months, which is when many of the qualifiers for worlds and international rankings are. US schools are not going to release their athletes to play for Team Canada when they are being paid to play for University XYZ. Last but not least funding........ - our Junior and Youth teams are a pay to play program. Although Canada Vball does sponsor teams every summer for a couple weeks of training and maybe a tournament or two, with a visit to USHP Championships and thats the end. For participation in this programs athlete families are required to pay, somewhere around $4000 for the process, which eliminates a lot of great athletes that can't' afford it. Mens Team have a better program and better funding, they have a U19 and U21 Team that compete internationally and are well ranked and also have a National Excellence Centre where ranked athletes can go train year round. Women are a little behind, however the U16 Youth team qualified for Worlds in 2019 for the first time in many years and VBall Canada is in the planning stages for an National Excellence Centre for girls. Unfortunately a pay to play program, but heading in the right direction. Rant over, are you sorry you asked LOL Very interesting. I had no idea, I was just going off another post that seemed to imply that Canadian universities were fully funding players. Even more interesting about the lack of funding in international play.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2019 18:45:22 GMT -5
Not trying to be a jerk, this is a serious question. If Canadian college volleyball has teams that are on D1 level and pays athletes to train (attend school), why does Canada never make the olympics? The Dominican Republic has only has 1/3rd of the population of Canada and is truly a third world country and people are saying they will take the americas bid over canada. what gives? Canada is a winter sport power.
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Post by Brutus Buckeye on Jan 14, 2019 18:15:33 GMT -5
No major shake ups in the standings these first few weekends.
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Post by DaDawgFather on Jan 14, 2019 18:54:54 GMT -5
Not trying to be a jerk, this is a serious question. If Canadian college volleyball has teams that are on D1 level and pays athletes to train (attend school), why does Canada never make the olympics? The Dominican Republic has only has 1/3rd of the population of Canada and is truly a third world country and people are saying they will take the americas bid over canada. what gives? The number of high level teams competing in Canada is very small. They are doing better in terms of international success though. They took down Dominican at the Pan Am cup this past year. Things are moving in the right direction it's just slow moving. Well, first they need a head coach and they need one quick because the first Olympic qualifier is coming up.
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Post by MonicaGeller on Jan 14, 2019 19:20:20 GMT -5
The number of high level teams competing in Canada is very small. They are doing better in terms of international success though. They took down Dominican at the Pan Am cup this past year. Things are moving in the right direction it's just slow moving. Well, first they need a head coach and they need one quick because the first Olympic qualifier is coming up. Both head coaches for the men’s and women’s teams left this year, citing personal reasons. The men’s position was filled quickly by Glenn Hoag, but nothing yet for the women. Agreed they need to fill that position and quickly. Women are based out of Vancouver, so at least climate should not be a factor in the decision making.
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Post by MonicaGeller on Jan 14, 2019 19:22:10 GMT -5
No major shake ups in the standings these first few weekends. Pandas vs Dino’s this weekend, should be a good match, although Dino’s swept Pandas in 3 in Christmas scrimmages - expect a better match this weekend
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2019 2:02:18 GMT -5
Watched a little bit of the Toronto vs. Waterloo livestream. And i have to say that i was pleasantly surprised by the quality of the broadcast. I might become a more regular viewer, the competition in the OUA seems quite close.
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Post by MonicaGeller on Jan 15, 2019 9:53:43 GMT -5
Watched a little bit of the Toronto vs. Waterloo livestream. And i have to say that i was pleasantly surprised by the quality of the broadcast. I might become a more regular viewer, the competition in the OUA seems quite close. I believe OUA and AUS broadcasts are free. Canada West tV is a paid service - $80 or so for all the sports in the entire conference for every Canada West school, so pretty reasonable.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2019 13:37:15 GMT -5
Watched a little bit of the Toronto vs. Waterloo livestream. And i have to say that i was pleasantly surprised by the quality of the broadcast. I might become a more regular viewer, the competition in the OUA seems quite close. I believe OUA and AUS broadcasts are free. Canada West tV is a paid service - $80 or so for all the sports in the entire conference for every Canada West school, so pretty reasonable. It might be "reasonable" for NCAA, but Usports/CIS is not at that level yet. Other than family/friends of players, there really aren't that many hardcore fans. You might have a student who saw a promotion for the school team, but they certainly aren't willing to shell out anything more than $5 (if that). Even friends of players are mostly students with student budgets. Yes there are costs associated with producing a broadcast/livestream, but if you want to grow college sports in Canada, you'll have to eat the costs.
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Post by MonicaGeller on Jan 15, 2019 13:58:41 GMT -5
I believe OUA and AUS broadcasts are free. Canada West tV is a paid service - $80 or so for all the sports in the entire conference for every Canada West school, so pretty reasonable. It might be "reasonable" for NCAA, but Usports/CIS is not at that level yet. Other than family/friends of players, there really aren't that many hardcore fans. You might have a student who saw a promotion for the school team, but they certainly aren't willing to shell out anything more than $5 (if that). Even friends of players are mostly students with student budgets. Yes there are costs associated with producing a broadcast/livestream, but if you want to grow college sports in Canada, you'll have to eat the costs. True - ther “might be” a bit of sharing of login info 😂😂
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2019 14:02:35 GMT -5
It might be "reasonable" for NCAA, but Usports/CIS is not at that level yet. Other than family/friends of players, there really aren't that many hardcore fans. You might have a student who saw a promotion for the school team, but they certainly aren't willing to shell out anything more than $5 (if that). Even friends of players are mostly students with student budgets. Yes there are costs associated with producing a broadcast/livestream, but if you want to grow college sports in Canada, you'll have to eat the costs. True - ther “might be” a bit of sharing of login info 😂😂
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Post by MonicaGeller on Jan 15, 2019 14:10:26 GMT -5
😂😂😂😂well done! To go see a game live regular people must pay $16 to attend and students $10, unless it is “student night”. No wonder the gyms are only 20% filled. Lots of Canadian kids want to play in the US because people will ACTUALLY come to watch them play - and there is a sports culture in University sport.
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Post by Brutus Buckeye on Jan 18, 2019 18:46:51 GMT -5
Watched a little bit of the Toronto vs. Waterloo livestream. And i have to say that i was pleasantly surprised by the quality of the broadcast. I might become a more regular viewer, the competition in the OUA seems quite close. I believe OUA and AUS broadcasts are free. Canada West tV is a paid service - $80 or so for all the sports in the entire conference for every Canada West school, so pretty reasonable. You wouldn't happen to have those OUA and AUS links handy, would ya?
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