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Post by jayj79 on Jan 21, 2019 0:12:16 GMT -5
Totally blown call and an embarrassment for the NFL. It was so bad in fact you have to wonder if the fix was in. Nah. Ref just choked. The NFL does this to themselves, IMO. They want to retain the play where the defender hits the ball just as the receiver catches it and knocks it loose. But that's the whole reason they have these bad pass interference calls and also why they have this ridiculous problem deciding what a "catch" is. They want to retain the ability for the defender to stop a catch by hitting the receiver as he catches it, but in order to do that they need to accept a certain amount of "hit him before he catches it" and "knock the ball out after he catches it" plays as being "during the catch". This was well before the ball got there.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2019 0:34:01 GMT -5
Had an opponent's hitter in a deciding set catch so much net that it knocked the rope out of the pulley. Officials called my setter for catching the ball. They didn't see the net violation and didn't know how the net wound up off its track.
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Post by big10+4 fan on Jan 21, 2019 0:53:33 GMT -5
Saw this in high school, ball was set to middle about 5 feet from net. Middle hits it and ball goes off the block about 5 feet straight above the blocker. Middle who attacked jumps and taps it down and ref calls 4 contacts. Claims he did not hear or see the block touch.
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Post by volleyca on Jan 21, 2019 1:25:36 GMT -5
Texas vs Florida 2015 regional final..if you know you know
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Post by secgator4 on Jan 21, 2019 2:21:28 GMT -5
Texas vs Florida 2015 regional final..if you know you know OH WE KNOW
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Post by mikegarrison on Jan 21, 2019 3:35:25 GMT -5
Nah. Ref just choked. The NFL does this to themselves, IMO. They want to retain the play where the defender hits the ball just as the receiver catches it and knocks it loose. But that's the whole reason they have these bad pass interference calls and also why they have this ridiculous problem deciding what a "catch" is. They want to retain the ability for the defender to stop a catch by hitting the receiver as he catches it, but in order to do that they need to accept a certain amount of "hit him before he catches it" and "knock the ball out after he catches it" plays as being "during the catch". This was well before the ball got there. Yes, which is why it was a bad call. But the reason this is a non-reviewable judgment call in the first place is because the NFL knows that if they say "any contact before the receiver touches the ball is pass interference" then they are going to pretty much end the play where the defender hits the receiver as he catches the ball. Defenders just can't time it closely enough, and they rely on it being a judgment call whether the catch was in progress by the time the contact was made.
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Post by volleydude444 on Jan 21, 2019 6:51:52 GMT -5
Was watching a boys HS match years ago. One team had a boy really tall, 6'8'' or better. On a busted play the setter gave him the ball in the back row but the ball was set in front of the 10 ft line. Realizing this the hitter did not jump and just down balled it over. He was called for a backrow attack......cause his hand was over the height of the net.
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Post by volleydude444 on Jan 21, 2019 6:53:13 GMT -5
The roughing the passer call against Tom Brady in the Chiefs game was... well don't pat him on the shoulder. You'll get a penalty. Touching Tom Brady is a personal foul and cause for ejection.
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Post by itsallrelative on Jan 21, 2019 6:58:37 GMT -5
Was watching a boys HS match years ago. One team had a boy really tall, 6'8'' or better. On a busted play the setter gave him the ball in the back row but the ball was set in front of the 10 ft line. Realizing this the hitter did not jump and just down balled it over. He was called for a backrow attack......cause his hand was over the height of the net. That is actually the correct call... if the ball is completely above the plane of the net at contact, it is an attack
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Post by breakoutsports on Jan 21, 2019 7:18:44 GMT -5
Was watching a boys HS match years ago. One team had a boy really tall, 6'8'' or better. On a busted play the setter gave him the ball in the back row but the ball was set in front of the 10 ft line. Realizing this the hitter did not jump and just down balled it over. He was called for a backrow attack......cause his hand was over the height of the net. THIS. Youth refs almost never get the back row attack rules right
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Post by oldman on Jan 21, 2019 8:46:49 GMT -5
Was watching a boys HS match years ago. One team had a boy really tall, 6'8'' or better. On a busted play the setter gave him the ball in the back row but the ball was set in front of the 10 ft line. Realizing this the hitter did not jump and just down balled it over. He was called for a backrow attack......cause his hand was over the height of the net. That is actually the correct call... if the ball is completely above the plane of the net at contact, it is an attack File it under worst official's call that was actually right.
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Post by azvb on Jan 21, 2019 12:30:59 GMT -5
High school boys match. My team blocks a ball that goes off the head of our opponent straight up in the air. Ref blows his whistle, looks stumped, then pats the top of his head repeatedly, and signals point for my team. Other coach stands up, says, “What?” Ref again pats his head repeatedly, then waves his figure like, you can play the ball with your head. Opposing coach shakes his head and sits down.
I couldn’t not say something. I stand up, say “That was a terrible call.” Walk towards the opponents bench and say, “You should protest.” R1 pulls out a red card for me. Other coach tells R2 he wants to protest. R2 goes over to R1, they chat for a bit. R1 changes his call. Then gives me another red card. I was tempted to tell the other coach he should protest again, because 2 red cards in the same game to the same person isn’t possible without me being ejected, and it should actually a red and yellow card held up together. But I refrained.
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Post by mikegarrison on Jan 21, 2019 12:34:14 GMT -5
High school boys match. My team blocks a ball that goes off the head of our opponent straight up in the air. Ref blows his whistle, looks stumped, then pats the top of his head repeatedly, and signals point for my team. Other coach stands up, says, “What?” Ref again pats his head repeatedly, then waves his figure like, you can play the ball with your head. Opposing coach shakes his head and sits down. I couldn’t not say something. I stand up, say “That was a terrible call.” Walk towards the opponents bench and say, “You should protest.” R1 pulls out a red card for me. Other coach tells R2 he wants to protest. R2 goes over to R1, they chat for a bit. R1 changes his call. Then gives me another red card. I was tempted to tell the other coach he should protest again, because 2 red cards in the same game to the same person isn’t possible without me being ejected, and it should actually a red and yellow card held up together. But I refrained. So, you got two red cards for suggesting a protest that was successful?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2019 12:45:46 GMT -5
This was well before the ball got there. Yes, which is why it was a bad call. But the reason this is a non-reviewable judgment call in the first place is because the NFL knows that if they say "any contact before the receiver touches the ball is pass interference" then they are going to pretty much end the play where the defender hits the receiver as he catches the ball. Defenders just can't time it closely enough, and they rely on it being a judgment call whether the catch was in progress by the time the contact was made. And it is definitely an NFL thing. Pass interference has been reviewable up in Canada from the moment they put a review system in place.
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Post by azvb on Jan 21, 2019 13:17:55 GMT -5
High school boys match. My team blocks a ball that goes off the head of our opponent straight up in the air. Ref blows his whistle, looks stumped, then pats the top of his head repeatedly, and signals point for my team. Other coach stands up, says, “What?” Ref again pats his head repeatedly, then waves his figure like, you can play the ball with your head. Opposing coach shakes his head and sits down. I couldn’t not say something. I stand up, say “That was a terrible call.” Walk towards the opponents bench and say, “You should protest.” R1 pulls out a red card for me. Other coach tells R2 he wants to protest. R2 goes over to R1, they chat for a bit. R1 changes his call. Then gives me another red card. I was tempted to tell the other coach he should protest again, because 2 red cards in the same game to the same person isn’t possible without me being ejected, and it should actually a red and yellow card held up together. But I refrained. So, you got two red cards for suggesting a protest that was successful? I think it was a combo of suggesting the opposing coach protest, and maybe the fact I tapped my head repeatedly and said, “This is not a referee signal!!!!!!” . I went too far. It was the culmination of SO MANY calls against the other team who only had 6 players, was trying their hardest, and the ref just kept blowing the whistle. I had even asked the R2 to tell the R1 we would rather have rallies than him stopping every rally with a BHE, overlaps, etc. He wasn’t happy with my request.
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