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Post by smokingaces on Feb 2, 2019 7:53:30 GMT -5
It seems like "vb coach" in this case is incidental. But sometimes I wonder whether volleyball is disproportionately likely to attract predators. People always joke about "girls in spandex", but it might not be such a joke in some aspects. Key word is girls (or boys) not so much spandex to attract child predators. Close your eyes and pick a sport, they’re there, at all levels, ie gymnastics, swimming etc.
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Post by Brutus Buckeye on Feb 2, 2019 9:58:36 GMT -5
I'd imagine that gymnastics would be the worst, since "spotting" is a large part of the job.
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Post by maɡˈnōlēə on Feb 2, 2019 10:38:55 GMT -5
While wrong, really seems crazy he could go to prison for this but that guy down the street who’s been accused of way worse has been free forever... if that’s true, of course. Not in defense of the guy "down the street" but because human trafficking issues and child advocacy is a passion my partner focuses on I do feel I need to speak up. I am all too aware of the statistics on this subject, as I have touched upon in other threads. My point which so many of you are probably aware of already. Child pornograohy is a massive problem that ties into human trafficking to the tune of 100's of child abductions weekly. It is problematic on an unbelievable scale. Anytime a man or woman indulges in "underage" or "teen" porn they contribute to a worldwide epidemic that affects thousands upon thousands of young souls who are often sold for sex, some reporting (after rescue) that they've been forced to have sex and sex acts with (usually middle aged) men as many times as 15 times a day. Many of these poor children have also been used to create child porn and in some instances have also been used in far worse (if you can even fathom that). fightthenewdrug.org/national-human-trafficking-awareness-day-everything-you-need-to-know/everaccountable.com/blog/the-link-between-pornography-and-human-trafficking/And to to respond to the poster that said something is wrong in the water in Chicago: I posted a series of posts about recent (within the past two or three years) sex abuse scandals in volleyball with verifiable links throughout the country, what maybe like 10 months ago, and it got shut down. And one or two other times I tried again and they too got shut down. There's obviously something in the water EVERYWHERE, a quick Google shows this to be fact.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2019 17:42:09 GMT -5
It seems like "vb coach" in this case is incidental. But sometimes I wonder whether volleyball is disproportionately likely to attract predators. People always joke about "girls in spandex", but it might not be such a joke in some aspects. Key word is girls (or boys) not so much spandex to attract child predators. Close your eyes and pick a sport, they’re there, at all levels, ie gymnastics, swimming etc. Of course, but I think the key word is "disproportionately".
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Post by boh on Feb 4, 2019 12:42:44 GMT -5
Key word is girls (or boys) not so much spandex to attract child predators. Close your eyes and pick a sport, they’re there, at all levels, ie gymnastics, swimming etc. Spandex has bothered me in VB since I was in high school and college and I felt so sorry for so many girls that didn't look good in them and were self conscious. Spandex today looks a lot better than it did decades ago, which actually makes it less appropriate, not more. If there was any competitive advantage, the boys would be in spandex. They are not. At least it is better than what the girls beach players are wearing, either from their sponsors or trolling for sponsors. Yikes! I know lots of guys who wear spandex under their clothes when they play. There are certainly advantages to it, but I do not think it should be a required as part of a uniform. Allow them to wear any kind of bottom they want as long as it is color matching.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2019 12:53:05 GMT -5
With regard to tight or revealing clothing, let's move past your personal comfort level with it. What the athletes wear as a uniform should not be the center of discussion. What the athletes wear is not the problem. It is not the athlete's fault or the uniform's fault. It is the abuser's fault. Any discomfort you feel regarding what people wear is something you need to get past and can be a matter for another board or your therapist, but remember sexual abuse is not about sex, it's about power. Don't confuse the two. Monsters prey on children whether they're in a swimsuit or altar robes.
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Post by moderndaycoach on Feb 4, 2019 13:32:59 GMT -5
Key word is girls (or boys) not so much spandex to attract child predators. Close your eyes and pick a sport, they’re there, at all levels, ie gymnastics, swimming etc. Spandex has bothered me in VB since I was in high school and college and I felt so sorry for so many girls that didn't look good in them and were self conscious. Spandex today looks a lot better than it did decades ago, which actually makes it less appropriate, not more. If there was any competitive advantage, the boys would be in spandex. They are not. At least it is better than what the girls beach players are wearing, either from their sponsors or trolling for sponsors. Yikes! It is about comfort, I would argue that tighter clothing not restricting movement is an advantage to some athletes. Plenty of boys wear spandex shorts or long tights with short shorts over the top just to hide anything someone may not want to see because it does offer a competitive advantage in the way they can move. The problem is the people that can not differentiate what is appropriate or not, the people that make the claims about people deserving what they get based off what they wear are sick.
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Post by stanfordvb on Feb 4, 2019 13:56:36 GMT -5
I am not going to say much, but I did know this coach an have for about 2 years now. He coached me when I played in the USA pipeline and coaches my USA teammates club team. It was very unexpected and everyone was shocked. He is very well known throughout boys club volleyball in the United States because of USA volleyball and hit men volleyball club, which he is the head coach of. And the strangest part is, he used to work at a juvenile correctional facility. Very uncomfortable to have known him. I do know that he has posted bail and currently is awaiting his day in court. Very sad/angering circumstances.
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Post by maɡˈnōlēə on Feb 6, 2019 7:13:39 GMT -5
This discussion is as old as this permutation of the board is, way back to page 1700 something volleytalk.proboards.com/thread/5577/Having said that I'm not sure that sexy uniforms are the core issue. The issue is much broader in scope then spanks, bun huggers and basketball shorts. The issue goes to the part of our brains that is aroused by novelty, the part that makes all things sexual new and arousing to us as humans, the issue isn't that per se but how that part of the brain is exploited by individuals and corporations to sell us stuff, to manipulate (mostly men) the base biological instincts and how certain men have allowed that to be their driving force in their lives. In this situation this particular man has risked it all on the thrill of spying on others and by contributing to what some countries are now calling a humanitarian crisis (porn, child porn in this situation). The debate on sexualizing women in sports directly ties in to what I memtioned above. I think a better question is why would individuals risk it all for the thrill of sexual novelty? Why do we as humans turn to the beast side rather than logic in these situations. Are we that basic? Are we all prone to acting on instinct as we are led to believe by the NUMEROUS sex scandals in sports (not just volleyball)? Can we even begin to safeguard our children? How do we, as parents, even begin to do so?
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Post by Brutus Buckeye on Feb 6, 2019 8:32:40 GMT -5
Sounds like he was coaching the boys. Not sure how the girls apparel is relevant.
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Post by moderndaycoach on Feb 6, 2019 8:49:50 GMT -5
Sounds like he was coaching the boys. Not sure how the girls apparel is relevant. Correct, his program got off the ground with Hitmen but their group recently put together a girls program named Rampage and I am pretty sure (someone correct me if wrong) they practice out of the same facility that same group invested in to improve.
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Post by stanfordvb on Feb 6, 2019 9:57:54 GMT -5
Mike was an openly gay man if that narrows down what gender he was most likely targeting toward.
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Post by maɡˈnōlēə on Feb 8, 2019 18:48:54 GMT -5
Mike was an openly gay man if that narrows down what gender he was most likely targeting toward. Well we can't blame the spandex for this incident, can we?
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Post by moderndaycoach on Aug 6, 2019 15:19:47 GMT -5
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Post by huskerjen on Aug 6, 2019 15:22:47 GMT -5
Bi-pedo?
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